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Post by George Carlin Mon 14 Nov 2016, 7:08 pm

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ENGLAND v FIJI
19 November 2016
14:30 GMT (UTC+0)
Twickenham Stadium, London

Live on [Sky Sports 1]

Referee: Marius Mitrea (Italy)
Assistant referees: Paul Williams (New Zealand), Lloyd Linton (Scotland)
Television match official: Gareth Simmonds (Wales)
Assessor: Mark Lawrence (South Africa)

A. Head to Head

6 Played 6
6 Won 0
0 Drawn 0
0 Lost 6
245 Points 94

B. Recent Form

18 September 2015
England 35 - 11 Fiji
Twickenham

10 November 2012
England 54 - 12 Fiji
Twickenham

20 October 1999
England 45 - 24 Fiji
Twickenham

20 July 1991
Fiji 12 - 28 England
National Stadium, Suva

04 November 1989
England 58 - 23 Fiji
Twickenham

17 June 1988
Fiji 12 - 25 England
National Stadium, Suva

C. Teams

ENGLAND 
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A Goode; S Rokoduguni, J Joseph, O Farrell, E Daly; G Ford, B Youngs; M Vunipola, D Hartley, D Cole, J Launchbury, C Lawes, C Robshaw , T Harrison, B Vunipola.

Replacements: J George, J Marler, K Sinckler, C Ewels, N Hughes, D Care, B Te'o, H Slade.

FIJI
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M Talebula; B Masilevu, A Tikoirotuma, A Vulivuli, N Nadolo; J Matavesi, S Vularika; C Ma'afu, S Koto Vuli, M Saulo, A Ratuniyarawa, L Nakarawa, D Waqaniburotu, P Yato, A Qera.

Replacements: T Talemaitoga, P Ravai, L Atalifo, N Soqeta, N Dawai, E Radrodro, N Matawalu, K Murimurivalu.


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Post by Gooseberry Fri 18 Nov 2016, 2:06 pm

31, and that goose was shot many years ago sadly. File under Croft.

As it is his injuries gave Brown a chance (if only the management had been ahead of the curve on that one eh Rolling Eyes ) and to be fair its not like weve done bad off him.

In the near future I dont see a change happening, unless theres further injuries. Haley got cut pretty early in the process. All fit you have Brown as the first choice whos still plenty young enough to do the Lions and world cup as that, and Watson/Nowell/Daly offering options from within the core group. Thats also assuming that Goode is just a "stop gap" second choice...which isnt certain.

All fit its hard to see where Haley gets a cap at the moment, and his absence form the core training group doesnt suggest that Jones is overly bothered about that currently.

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Post by Geordie Fri 18 Nov 2016, 2:11 pm

I think that boat has sailed now Cascough.....

Id say its:

Brown or Goode
Haley
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Shilcott / Pennell / Hammersley / Daly / Maybe Watson or Nowell switching ...A.N.Other

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Post by yappysnap Fri 18 Nov 2016, 3:03 pm

Need a better start this week.

If we can start strong and get early points then very quickly Fiji will begin to throw the Hail Mary passes and get loose.

If we gift penalties and keep them in it then they'll grow in confidence.

No more dg attempts from Ford please either

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Post by ChequeredJersey Fri 18 Nov 2016, 3:10 pm

Ford can go for DG attempts if he does them well!
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Post by Geordie Fri 18 Nov 2016, 3:14 pm

Ive got Ford for a Hattrick 80 -1! And Mako first try... 25-1


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Post by doctor_grey Fri 18 Nov 2016, 8:19 pm

Gents,
Let us not get ahead of ourselves. As soon as you start thinking about hat tricks and fat boys scoring first you jinx the whole thing. Just remember Fiji gave Australia a difficult ride in the RWC (in Cardiff - of course the roof was closed). Let's play our game. Remain calm, all is well............
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro

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Post by Geordie Fri 18 Nov 2016, 9:46 pm

Nonsense I'm confident!

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Post by Rugby Fan Sat 19 Nov 2016, 7:48 am

Anyone know how late you can make a change to the squad if someone pulls up injured?

I think Jonathan Davies was replaced on the same day as the Australia Test, after his hamstring played up. Wondering whether this is possible any time before kick-off, or if there's a time limit.

Not trying to jinx England but the thought occurred to me, given we have a few players who only got the all-clear late in the day.

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Post by yappysnap Sat 19 Nov 2016, 8:03 am

If it's like the Prem then almost right up to the game, the team will probably take a 24th player just in case

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Post by yappysnap Sat 19 Nov 2016, 8:10 am

Just watching the SA game highlights and Youngs makes so many half breaks around the ruck all game.

You have to think that Fiji will be ready for that now though, i'd like to see Youngs getting the ball early to Ford and giving him space now, hopefully the Fijian ruck guards will be watching Youngs and Firs can cause some havoc.

If not then let's get Goode into the line more often and/or bring Roko through the middle, we do lack some size in the backs so he needs to be used.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 19 Nov 2016, 9:08 am

Rugby Fan wrote:Anyone know how late you can make a change to the squad if someone pulls up injured?

Until the team sheet is handed to the ref you can make any changes you want for any reason.

After that point (and that is usually less than an hour before kick-off) it can only be for an injury caused at the last minute (ie in warm ups) and may have to be independently assessed.

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Post by mid_gen Sat 19 Nov 2016, 10:17 am

Huge game for Harrison, really hope he gets stuck in, never good to see someone get subbed after 30.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 19 Nov 2016, 12:11 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Ive got Ford for a Hattrick  80 -1! And Mako first try... 25-1


Got 9-1 on Jon Joseph as first try scorer, guaranteed that it will be Dan Cole now. I shouldn't be allowed to bet, I am useless at it. laughing
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Post by George Carlin Sat 19 Nov 2016, 12:50 pm

I just got very good odds on Phil Vickery being the first to score. Suckers.
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Post by king_carlos Sat 19 Nov 2016, 1:02 pm

George Carlin wrote:I just got very good odds on Phil Vickery being the first to score. Suckers.

Phil's on the bench so Eddie can prolong his best a bit for the next World Cup. Foolish move, George. Very Happy

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Post by flankertye Sat 19 Nov 2016, 1:03 pm

Hey guys, would anyone be able to pm me a link for the game? Thank you all. Excited to see Roko get another shot, if I had money to bet I'd put him down for two tries

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:35 pm

Well done Cumbrian JJ scored!

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:35 pm

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:36 pm

Lets hope for a Ford hattrick then!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:37 pm

PS JJ is a class act of a centre now...quality attacker but more importantly becoming a real defensive leader out there.

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:39 pm

Yes ..straight away JJ and Daly changing positions

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:40 pm

And Daly is in....

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:42 pm

And Farrell hits 500 international points...

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:44 pm

Is it just me or does Nadolo remind you of old George Foreman.

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:44 pm

Try Roko....

Going to be a cricket score

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:46 pm

Roko is showing his Bath form....good on him!

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Post by lostinwales Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:48 pm

Doesn't sound like this match is going to tell us very much, apart from the fact that we can score good tries

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:49 pm

I love how Geroge Ford is totally fearless in tackling. He has put a couple of thumping tackles!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:50 pm

Yes LIW. It'll be interesting to see if we can keep to our structure and avoid just opening it up...

Harrison has had a quiet start but has been getting pressure on the right places.

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:52 pm

Harrison scores under a big England maul.

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 2:59 pm

Launchbury scores in another big England maul.

29-0 ....... 26 mins gone a point a minute at the moment.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:02 pm

Maybe they should finish the main game early then put on a couple of rounds of sevens...

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:05 pm

Nadolo scores out on the wing

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:05 pm

Their scrum is actually giving ours a bit of a test!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:14 pm

England have completely dropped their intensity...and Fiji controlling a lot now.

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:14 pm

As I speak Fiji score again!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:14 pm

Appalling defence by England!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:18 pm

Half time...

I can help thinking despite being so far ahead...two tries conceded at the end and being under the cosh....Jones will be reading them the riot act!

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:23 pm

Difficult to stay sharp when they are so far ahead. As others have said this game won't really tell us much about England that we don't already know.
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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:24 pm

Yeah but you know what Eddie Jones is like. He doesn't care he wants total commitment regardless...

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:30 pm

True, and it should be expected, it shows a tad lack of respect to the opposition to switch off.
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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:35 pm

Fiji score first in the second half. Appalling defence once again! Harrison has missed a couple of tackles previous aswell.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:35 pm

England need to take their heads out of their arses now.
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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:36 pm

They certainly do marra!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:38 pm

Hartley scores from a lineout drive

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:39 pm

Disallowed....

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:40 pm

England struggling against Fiji....so we bring on a FIjian ...Nathan Hughes!

Replaces Harrison. I suspect you wont see him in an England shirt for quite some time now!

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:43 pm

Alex Goode scores....

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:50 pm

JJ intercept try.

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Post by Geordie Sat 19 Nov 2016, 3:57 pm

Wow Teo just smashed some one....but he still shouldn't be on the pitch! Likewise Hughes!

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