Ireland U20s 2017

First topic message reminder :

The first training squad has been announced. Plenty of players missing from that list die to injury etc.
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/38779.php#.WFk3-vmLSM8


Hookers
Adam Maloney (Shannon/Munster)
Tadgh McElroy (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Shane O'Hehir (Sligo/Connacht)


Props
Charlie Connolly (Dublin University/Leinster)
Sam Deane (Cork Constitution/Munster)
Greg McGrath (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Joey Conway (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Peter Cooper (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
Rory Mulvihill (UCD/Leinster)


Locks
Oisin Dowling (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Cillian Gallagher (Sligo/Connacht)
Jack Regan (UCD/Leinster)
Fineen Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)


Backrow
Sean Masterson (Corinthians/Connacht)
Simon Meagher (Roscrea/Connacht)
Marcus Rea (Queen's University/Ulster)
Barry Fitzpatrick (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Paul Boyle (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
Gavin Coombes (Young Munster/Munster)


Half Backs
Ryan Feehily (Sligo/Connacht)
James Lennon (UL Bohemians/Munster)
Jack Stafford (Shannon/Munster)
Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/Ulster)
Alan Tynan (Young Munster/Munster)
Luke Carty (Buccaneers/Connacht)
Ciaran Frawley (Skerries/Leinster)
Conor Fitzgerald (Shannon/Munster)
Conor Dean (St. Mary's College/Leinster)


Backs
Colm de Buitlear (Corinthians/Connacht)
Daniel Hurley (Garryowen/Munster)
Conor Kelly (Queen's University/Ulster)
Jordan Larmour (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
Jack Kelly (Dublin University/Leinster)
Liam Coombes (Garryowen/Munster)
Calvin Nash (Munster/Young Munster)
Tommy O'Brien (UCD/Leinster)
Alex McHenry (Cork Constitution/Munster)
Peadar Collins (Garryowen/Munster)
Robert Lyttle (Queen's University/Ulster)
Rory Butler (Ballymena/Ulster)



December Fixtures:

Leinster Development XV v Ireland Under-20 XV
Wednesday, December 21, kick-off 12.30pm
Donnybrook Stadium

Munster Development XV v Ireland Under-20 XV
Thursday, December 29, kick-off 1pm
Thomond Park

IRELAND UNDER-19 Team & Replacements (v Japan Under-19s, Under-19 International Match, Donnybrook, Saturday, March 25, kick-off 4.30pm):

15. Conor Wharton (Leeds Beckett University)
14. Mark Keane (Instonians)
13. James Hume (RBAI)
12. David McCarthy (Garryowen)
11. Peter Sullivan (St. Andrew's College)
10. Michael Lowry (RBAI)
9. Hugh O'Sullivan (Belvedere College)
1. James French (Bandon Grammar School)
2. Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen)
3. Tom O'Toole (Campbell College)
4. Matt Dalton (Belfast Royal Academy)
5. Jack Dunne (St. Michael's College)
6. Jack Cooke (London Irish)
7. Aaron Hall (Ballynahinch)
8. Sean Masterson (Corinthians)

Replacements:

16. Alexander Clarke (Ballymena Academy)
17. Jordan Duggan (Naas)
18. Bryan O'Connor (Presentation Brothers Cork)
19. John McCusker (Rainey Old Boys)
20. Max Kearney (Belvedere College)
21. James Kenny (Gonzaga)
22. Angus Curtis (Queen's University)
23. Corey Reid (Marist College)

Carolan is no longer with the U20s. He has taken up a position with Connacht. Attack coach or something like that.

The u19s beat Japan yesterday. 50 - 31

Lots of injured players struggling to make it. Larmour, Kelly, Doris, Johnston, O'Brien that I know of.

Larmour, Johnston and O'Brien are all confirmed to miss the tournament. A few of the forwards are struggling too.

McPhillips and Lyttle are major doubts too for the tournament

Squad named. Loads of injuries.  


Props
Greg McGrath (Lansdowne FC/Leinster)
Charlie Connolly (Dublin University FC/Leinster)
Joey Conway (UL Bohemians RFC/Munster)
Peter Cooper (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
Jordan Duggan (Naas RFC/Leinster)*

Hookers
Ronan Kelleher (UCD RFC/Leinster)
Tadgh McElroy (Lansdowne FC/Leinster)

Locks
Oisin Dowling (Lansdowne FC/Leinster)
Jack Regan (UCD RFC/Leinster)
Fineen Wycherley (Young Munster RFC/Munster)

Backrow
Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College RFC/Leinster)
John Foley (Shannon RFC/Munster)
Gavin Coombes (Young Munster RFC/Munster)
Sean Masterson (Corinthians RFC/Connacht)
Marcus Rea (Queen's University Belfast RFC/Ulster)
Paul Boyle (Lansdowne FC/Leinster) Captain

9s
Jack Stafford (Shannon RFC/Munster)
Jonathan Stewart (Queen's University Belfast RFC/Ulster)

10s
Angus Curtis (Queen's University Belfast RFC/Ulster)*
Conor Dean (UCD RFC/Leinster)*
Alan Tynan (Young Munster/Munster)*

Outside backs
Ciaran Frawley (St.Mary's College/Leinster)
Colm Hogan (Dublin University FC/Munster)
Jack Kelly (Dublin University FC/Leinster)
David McCarthy (Garryowen FC/Munster)*
Gavin Mullin (UCD RFC/Leinster)
Calvin Nash (Young Munster/Munster)
Michael Silvester (Dublin University FC/Leinster)*

*New caps

U19s
Duggan
Kelleher
Doris
Stewart
Curtis
Dean
McCarthy
Sylvester
Masterson

Three uncapped 10s can't offer much hope!

Still it will be interesting to see whether Curtis can live up to his highlights reels.

The Great Aukster wrote:Three uncapped 10s can't offer much hope!

Still it will be interesting to see whether Curtis can live up to his highlights reels.

They'll have to settle in quickly but at least Stewart is there to smooth things over and the centers, Frawley and Mullin are also there. Tynan has been tearing it up at UBL level apparently and Dean was part of the squad all along but got injured. Johnston is a big loss, not sure I'd say the same about McPhillips.

Is Sean Masterson of any relation to Eoghan Masterson?

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Is Sean Masterson of any relation to Eoghan Masterson?

Brothers. Sean is in the Connacht academy and another U19 which I just added to the U19 list.

profitius wrote:

The Great Aukster wrote:Three uncapped 10s can't offer much hope!

Still it will be interesting to see whether Curtis can live up to his highlights reels.

They'll have to settle in quickly but at least Stewart is there to smooth things over and the centers, Frawley and Mullin are also there. Tynan has been tearing it up at UBL level apparently and Dean was part of the squad all along but got injured. Johnston is a big loss, not sure I'd say the same about McPhillips.

McPhillips more than acquitted himself last year, its not like they had a good tournament or anything

marty2086 wrote:

profitius wrote:

The Great Aukster wrote:Three uncapped 10s can't offer much hope!

Still it will be interesting to see whether Curtis can live up to his highlights reels.

They'll have to settle in quickly but at least Stewart is there to smooth things over and the centers, Frawley and Mullin are also there. Tynan has been tearing it up at UBL level apparently and Dean was part of the squad all along but got injured. Johnston is a big loss, not sure I'd say the same about McPhillips.

McPhillips more than acquitted himself last year, its not like they had a good tournament or anything

Hes actually a fantastic kicker of the ball however he hasn't mastered the 10 position yet and keeps kicking the ball away. The Irish backs hardly got a touch of the ball against Italy and Scotland because McPhilips kept kicking the ball, he stands too deep, his passing isn't the best either and he isn't a great defender. Thats probably sounds harsher than I mean it to but he isn't the finish product yet.

All things he can work on. He looks similar to Ross Byrne but with more pace.

profitius wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

profitius wrote:

The Great Aukster wrote:Three uncapped 10s can't offer much hope!

Still it will be interesting to see whether Curtis can live up to his highlights reels.

They'll have to settle in quickly but at least Stewart is there to smooth things over and the centers, Frawley and Mullin are also there. Tynan has been tearing it up at UBL level apparently and Dean was part of the squad all along but got injured. Johnston is a big loss, not sure I'd say the same about McPhillips.

McPhillips more than acquitted himself last year, its not like they had a good tournament or anything

Hes actually a fantastic kicker of the ball however he hasn't mastered the 10 position yet and keeps kicking the ball away. The Irish backs hardly got a touch of the ball against Italy and Scotland because McPhilips kept kicking the ball, he stands too deep, his passing isn't the best either and he isn't a great defender. Thats probably sounds harsher than I mean it to but he isn't the finish product yet.

Was the kicking not a tactical issue? I always thought McPhillips was a good passer of the ball but he does stand too deep. His attacking game reminds me a lot of Jackson

marty2086 wrote:

profitius wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

profitius wrote:

The Great Aukster wrote:Three uncapped 10s can't offer much hope!

Still it will be interesting to see whether Curtis can live up to his highlights reels.

They'll have to settle in quickly but at least Stewart is there to smooth things over and the centers, Frawley and Mullin are also there. Tynan has been tearing it up at UBL level apparently and Dean was part of the squad all along but got injured. Johnston is a big loss, not sure I'd say the same about McPhillips.

McPhillips more than acquitted himself last year, its not like they had a good tournament or anything

Hes actually a fantastic kicker of the ball however he hasn't mastered the 10 position yet and keeps kicking the ball away. The Irish backs hardly got a touch of the ball against Italy and Scotland because McPhilips kept kicking the ball, he stands too deep, his passing isn't the best either and he isn't a great defender. Thats probably sounds harsher than I mean it to but he isn't the finish product yet.

Was the kicking not a tactical issue? I always thought McPhillips was a good passer of the ball but he does stand too deep. His attacking game reminds me a lot of Jackson

He struggled with his passing, positioning etc. By contrast Johnston came in for the last 3 games (against France Wales and England ) and transformed how the team played. As TGA said, its something McPhilips can work on but looking ahead to the U20 world cup I think Ireland will do better with a 10 that gets the backline moving. I havn't a clue what the other 3 are like tbh.

Curtis is a runner, maybe too much - based on his South African highlights, but they're not going to focus on his positional kicking!

Tadhg McElroy has been dropped from the squad. Word is he is signing for Saracens.

IRELAND UNDER-20 Team & Replacements (v Italy Under-20s, 2017 World Rugby U-20 Championship Pool B, Kutaisi Stadium, Kutaisi, Georgia, Wednesday, May 31, kick-off 3.30pm local time/12.30pm Irish time):

15. Jack Kelly (Dublin University/Leinster)
14. Colm Hogan (Dublin University/Munster)
13. Gavin Mullin (UCD/Leinster)
12. Ciaran Frawley (UCD/Leinster)
11. Calvin Nash (Young Munster/Munster)
10. Conor Dean (St. Mary's College/Leinster) *
9. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/Ulster)
1. Joey Conway (UL Bohemians/Munster)
2. Diarmuid Barron (Garryowen/Munster) *
3. Charlie Connolly (Dublin University/Leinster)
4. Fineen Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
5. Oisin Dowling (Lansdowne/Leinster)
6. Marcus Rea (Queen's University/Ulster)
7. Paul Boyle (Lansdowne/Leinster) (capt)
8. Gavin Coombes (Young Munster/Munster)

Replacements:

16. Ronan Kelleher (UCD/Leinster)
17. Greg McGrath (Lansdowne/Leinster)
18. Peter Cooper (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
19. Jack Regan (UCD/Leinster)
20. Sean Masterson (Corinthians/Connacht)
21. Jack Stafford (Shannon/Munster)
22. Angus Curtis (Queen's University/Ulster) *
23. Alan Tynan (Young Munster/Munster) *

* Denotes uncapped player at U-20 level

Italy leading 15-3 at half time

Anyone know where to find the stream of the game?

http://www.worldrugby.org/video/252198

BamBam wrote:http://www.worldrugby.org/video/252198

Cheers

What a finish to the game, Ireland scoring 18 unanswered points until Italy scored a try with about 4 mins left and scored a wonky conversation.

Ireland get penalty with less than a minute left and its missed

21-22 win for Italy

Jeepers bad to lose against Italy. We will just have to beat NZ

Awful performance. Poor performances from too many players and the whole thing looked disjointed.

IRELAND UNDER-20 Team & Replacements (v Scotland Under-20s, 2017 World Rugby U-20 Championship Pool B, Kutaisi Stadium, Kutaisi, Georgia, Sunday, June 4, kick-off 1pm local time/10am Irish time):

15. Alan Tynan (Young Munster/Munster)
14. Jack Kelly (Dublin University/Leinster)
13. Gavin Mullin (UCD/Leinster)
12. Ciaran Frawley (UCD/Leinster)
11. Calvin Nash (Young Munster/Munster)
10. Conor Dean (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
9. Jack Stafford (Shannon/Munster)
1. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster) *
2. Ronan Kelleher (UCD/Leinster)
3. Charlie Connolly (Dublin University/Leinster)
4. Fineen Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
5. Oisin Dowling (Lansdowne/Leinster)
6. Sean Masterson (Corinthians/Connacht)
7. Paul Boyle (Lansdowne/Leinster) (capt)
8. Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College/Leinster)

Replacements:

16. Adam Moloney (Shannon/Munster)
17. Greg McGrath (Lansdowne/Leinster)
18. Peter Cooper (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
19. Jack Regan (UCD/Leinster)
20. Gavin Coombes (Young Munster/Munster)
21. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/Ulster)
22. Angus Curtis (Queen's University/Ulster) *
23. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster) *

* Denotes uncapped player at U-20 level

Decent side prof but they will want to perform a hell of a lot better than they did against Italy. Already feel they have too much to do to get through.

eirebilly wrote:Decent side prof but they will want to perform a hell of a lot better than they did against Italy. Already feel they have too much to do to get through.

They have to beat the baby blacks to get through. They'll need to improve to beat Scotland. At this stage I'm just hoping for a good performance. Good to see Doris back.

Anyone know how this is going?

There doesn't seem to be any coverage.

The score is 10_15 . Other than that no idea

Scotland U20's running away with this now. 13 - 22

Game back on, Ireland score

Just like that, Scotland are in...

Everytime Ireland get close to Scotland, they score a try. Great stuff from them.

Scotland eventually run out 4 point winners. Ireland 28 - 32 Scotland.

Got a horrible feeling that the Baby Blacks will destroy Ireland now.

Good on the Scotland boys

Well said ebop. Sounds like it was some game.

It was back and forth, everytime Ireland got within touching distance the Scottish lads just upped a gear and put more distance between them. Some very good players coming through for Scotland.

How did Curtis play when he came on?

Thanks for the updates EB

On the JWC website they have a video of one of the scotland tries. End to end stuff and very good

carpet baboon wrote:How did Curtis play when he came on?

Honestly do not remember any impact from him. Sorry bud.

We look a very badly coached and underprepared team.

carpet baboon wrote:How did Curtis play when he came on?

He set up a try straight away but then went off with a head injury after 10 min on the pitch.

profitius wrote:We look a very badly coached and underprepared team.

carpet baboon wrote:How did Curtis play when he came on?

He set up a try straight away but then went off with a head injury after 10 min on the pitch.

I think we are, the squad is cobbled together because of injuries etc and the coaching team has seen some changes so everyone is essentially starting from scratch

Its a shame because it could be detrimental in the long term to the development of some of the players

From the highlights Curtis puts in a good flat pass to put Kelly through for his try. He then reels in the Scottish wing to stop him scoring but gets hurt.

The team looks at sea defensively so it's not a bad thing for them to face easier opposition in the later stages and they still get the experience of facing NZ

How's Curtis qualified for Ireland?
And what's happened to the prop from Leinster who looked very good a couple of seasons ago for the u20? An absolute beast of a fella

carpet baboon wrote:How's Curtis qualified for Ireland?
And what's happened to the prop from Leinster who looked very good a couple of seasons ago for the u20? An absolute beast of a fella

Do you mean Andrew Porter? Is he still young enough?

carpet baboon wrote:How's Curtis qualified for Ireland?
And what's happened to the prop from Leinster who looked very good a couple of seasons ago for the u20? An absolute beast of a fella

He father was an Ireland international so either one or both parents.

Hood83 wrote:

carpet baboon wrote:How's Curtis qualified for Ireland?
And what's happened to the prop from Leinster who looked very good a couple of seasons ago for the u20? An absolute beast of a fella

Do you mean Andrew Porter? Is he still young enough?

No not porter, his name made me think of an eastern European weight lifter.

profitius wrote:

carpet baboon wrote:How's Curtis qualified for Ireland?
And what's happened to the prop from Leinster who looked very good a couple of seasons ago for the u20? An absolute beast of a fella

He father was an Ireland international so either one or both parents.

Ahhh the only things I could find on him were some highlight feels and that he's a decent cricketer

Much changed side

15. Alan Tynan (Young Munster/Munster)
14. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster)
13. Jack Kelly (Dublin University/Leinster) (capt)
12. David McCarthy (Garryowen/Munster) *
11. Liam Coombes (Garryowen/Munster) *
10. Conor Fitzgerald (Shannon/Munster)
9. Jonny Stewart (Queen's University/Ulster)
1. Joey Conway (UL Bohemians/Munster)
2. Adam Moloney (Shannon/Munster)
3. Greg McGrath (Lansdowne/Leinster)
4. Gavin Coombes (Young Munster/Munster)
5. Jack Regan (UCD/Leinster)
6. Marcus Rea (Queen's University/Ulster)
7. John Foley (Shannon/Munster)
8. Sean Masterson (Corinthians/Connacht)

Replacements:

16. Ronan Kelleher (UCD/Leinster)
17. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster)
18. Charlie Connolly (Dublin University/Leinster)
19. Fineen Wycherley (Young Munster/ Munster)
20. Caelan Doris (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
21. Jack Stafford (Shannon/Munster)
22. Conor Dean (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
23. Ciaran Frawley (UCD/Leinster)

* Denotes uncapped player at U-20 level