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Post by BigGee Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:26 am

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Sarracens v Glasgow Warriors
European Champions Cup 1/4 Finals

Allianz Park, London

02/04/2017

Kick off 13.00

Televised on Sky Sports


Teams


Saracens

15 Alex Goode (223)
14 Chris Ashton (111)
13 Marcelo Bosch (91)
12 Brad Barritt (c) (191)
11 Sean Maitland (16)
10 Owen Farrell (146)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (180)

1 Mako Vunipola (114)
2 Jamie George (166)
3 Juan Figallo (57)
4 Maro Itoje (69)
5 Jim Hamilton (69)
6 Michael Rhodes (51)
7 Jackson Wray (166)
8 Billy Vunipola (71)

Replacements

16 Schalk Brits (194)
17 Titi Lamositele (38)
18 Vincent Koch (8)
19 Kelly Brown (152)
20 Joel Conlon (10)
21 Ben Spencer (95)
22 Alex Lozowski (24)
23 Duncan Taylor (97)



Glasgow Warriors

15. Stuart Hogg (97) (30)
14. Tommy Seymour (97) (25)
13. Alex Dunbar (95) (23)
12. Peter Horne (110) (17)
11. Lee Jones (50) (24)
10. Finn Russell (60) (18)
9. Henry Pyrgos CO-CAPTAIN (120) (26)

1 Gordon Reid (110) (21)
2 Fraser Brown (60) (13)
3 Zander Fagerson (47) (12)
4 Brian Alainu’uese (12) (2)
5 Jonny Gray CO-CAPTAIN (69) (20)
6 Rob Harley (158) (32)
7 Ryan Wilson (125) (30)
8 Adam Ashe (35) (5)

Replacements:

16. Corey Flynn (15) (9)
17. Alex Allan (46) (13)
18. Sila Puafisi (39) (18)
19. Greg Peterson (19) (2)
20. Chris Fusaro (121) (26)
21. Ali Price (38) (9)
22. Nick Grigg (16) (3)
23. Rory Hughes (29) (2)






The reigning champs vs the upstarts from North of the border. No previous form for this, as they have not played each other in years and certainly not since they have both become good teams. Both sides used to playing on an artificial pitch and both have a lot of big game players.

Alledgedly 4000-5000 Glasgow fans coming down for this game. They will be very noisy and will drink a lot of beer!

Bring it on, it is going to be epic.


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Post by BigGee Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:32 pm

Its actually a pretty meaty Glasgow pack and there will be no shortage of power coming through the front 5. We may actually have the edge in the starting scrums. Our bench is lighter no doubt, but a lot of our players do go the full 80 mins and i don't see a lot of sub action until very late on in the game unless there are injuries.

The match will undoubtably hinge on whether or not they can blow us away up front, which is what they do to a lot of teams they play against.

It has been a very quiet build up from Glasgow, very few squad announcements during the week. You do get the feeling that they are very focused on this.

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Post by EST Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:34 pm

BigGee wrote:Its actually a pretty meaty Glasgow pack and there will be no shortage of power coming through the front 5. We may actually have the edge in the starting scrums. Our bench is lighter no doubt, but a lot of our players do go the full 80 mins and i don't see a lot of sub action until very late on in the game unless there are injuries.

The match will undoubtably hinge on whether or not they can blow us away up front, which is what they do to a lot of teams they play against.

It has been a very quiet build up from Glasgow, very few squad announcements during the week. You do get the feeling that they are very focused on this.

Certainly with Big Brian paired with Gray, there will be a lot of power coming through the scrums - whether that gives us the edge, I would hazard a guess at probably not, but I hope we can get parity there. It's in the loose that I have my main concerns. As you say, we need to contain Vunipola *2, George, Itoje etc. It's a huge game for Adam Ashe.

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Post by BigGee Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:42 pm

Yes, time for AA to step up and show us he belongs at this level. He has shown lots of potential so far and now has the big boots of Josh Strauss to fill.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:52 pm

Maitland vs Seymour is a tasty clash, Ashton vs Jones picard
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Post by EST Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:27 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:Maitland vs Seymour is a tasty clash, Ashton vs Jones picard

To be fair, the Selkirk Pixie is vastly improved.  Russell V Farrell...could you find two more differing styles and personalities?

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Post by Hazel Sapling Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:44 pm

Think Glasgow front 5 is bigger than Sarries. The Sarries pack is not as deadly without Burger and Kruis. If the set piece is even, Glasgow have the tools to keep it close.

Still expect Sarries to win

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Post by George Carlin Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:19 pm

Damn shame about the injuries that we have - Lee Jones instead of Leonardo Sarto, Bob Harley instead of Josh Strauss and Peter Horne instead of Mark Bennett are a definite step-down in quality which is a real pity given what an important event this is for the club.

We'll score a couple of excellent tries no doubt, but Sarries will have too much I think. Would love to have Nakarawa back for this one match. Bygones.
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Post by demosthenes Sat Apr 01, 2017 10:53 am

Well, the invasion is well under way. At Glasgow Central this morning (8.00a.m. train) and already more than a few kilted Warriors heading south, well stocked up for the journey! Good luck to all who travel, hope it is worthwhile!

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Post by TJ Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:03 pm

Anyone know who the ref is? We need someone who will give turnovers!

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Post by Eejit Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:09 pm

TJ wrote:Anyone know who the ref is?  We need someone who will give turnovers!
Mine's a bacon and cheese please.

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Post by RDW Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:17 pm

At the risk of more jokes from Jimbo I just wanted to say that a few days ago I bumped into a wee ginger bloke on the Las Vegas strip who was wearing a warriors top! Gave him some chat and (unsurprisingly) he said I was the first person in 4 days to know what it was.

Good luck Glasgow - you have a chance but I felt the same before Twickenham and we all know what happened there!

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Post by jimbopip Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:38 pm

Admin Boy, stop trying to curry favour by going all "look at me, I spoke to one of those working class Weegie types". Besides which I thought the reason you Luvvies got married was to spend LESS time with ginger men.
Now get back up to your room and do your duty, dammit.

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Post by jimbopip Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:42 pm

On a serious note; it looks like I now have ONE ticket for tomorrow. Half price if anyone is interested.PM me.

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Post by George Carlin Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:54 pm

jimbopip wrote:On a serious note; it looks like I now have ONE ticket for tomorrow. Half price if anyone is interested.PM me.
No point Jim my old china. Haven't you read the esteemed rugby press?

Apparently we shouldn't even bother turning up.
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Post by jimbopip Sat Apr 01, 2017 5:56 pm

The most worrying thing I saw in the press today was Will Greenwood tipping "four home wins; but Glasgow look like the only away side who could buck the trend".
We're doomed, doomed I say.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:13 pm

jimbopip wrote:The most worrying thing I saw in the press today was Will Greenwood tipping "four home wins; but Glasgow look like the only away side who could buck the trend".
We're doomed, doomed I say.

Guscott said that about Wasps so 'what do they know?'

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:36 pm

Guscott knows nothing, one of the worst pundits going. He's right up there with Jonathan One Eye Davies.

Grenwood is slightly better.

Don't allow yourselves to be chasing the game and you can do it. Start trying to chase the game against Sarries and it can get ugly quickly.

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Post by George Carlin Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:56 pm

formerly known as Sam wrote:Guscott knows nothing, one of the worst pundits going. He's right up there with Jonathan One Eye Davies.

Grenwood is slightly better.

Don't allow yourselves to be chasing the game and you can do it. Start trying to chase the game and it can get ugly quickly.
You've just accurately described dating Glaswegian women.
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Post by SecretFly Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:31 pm

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Post by TJ Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:49 am

Good luck Glasgow. I have to work today and will miss the game :-(

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Post by cakeordeath Sun Apr 02, 2017 7:39 am

Looking forward to the game today, unfortunately i can't see anything other than a win for Sarries.

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Post by Exiledinborders Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:11 am

TJ wrote:Anyone know who the ref is?  We need someone who will give turnovers!
Jerome Garces so Sarries will be relieved they have an neutral official rather than a Pro12 ref.

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Post by eirebilly Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:43 am

Two very good teams, going to be a great game this. Best of luck to Glasgow and their fans today thumbsup
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Post by eirebilly Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:06 pm

I think that was a try myself, excellent finish from Ashton.
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Post by eirebilly Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:12 pm

Sarries are seriously piling on the pressure...
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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:19 pm

LEEEEEE JONES!
Yahoo

SELKIRK PIXIE OWNS ASHTON AND SCORES!


Conversion off the post furious
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Post by eirebilly Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:26 pm

Well played Geaorge, certainly a front runner for Lions hooker in my mind.
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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:32 pm

Damn. Sarries really are a slick unit. Brutality mixed with fine attacking play.
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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:32 pm

A missed touch finder, game over.
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Post by EST Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:36 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:A missed touch finder, game over.

Russell has done that twice this game. Criminal at this level.

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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:44 pm

Hard to see Glasgow coming back from this. 24-8, 10min to go.
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Post by A Simply Mesmeric Try Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:52 pm

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Post by EST Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:52 pm

Glasgow have been taken to school here - without Strauss and with Gray going off when he did, we just don't have anywhere near the firepower required.

Our execution at key times has been poor as well.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:55 pm

Quality performance by Sarries. Shame about the nonsense from Barnes.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:02 pm

Saracens really are some team. Very impressive.

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Post by EST Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:05 pm

TheMildlyFranticLlama wrote:Saracens really are some team. Very impressive.

Agreed, a very well oiled machine - never really in doubt at any point today.

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Post by Eejit Sun Apr 02, 2017 3:30 pm

Sarries very impressive. Ground is bloody good too.

Time to get drunk.

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Post by hawalsh Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:09 pm

A bit sloppy from Saracens at times, as they often can be when they don't have to go into top gear, but still enough moments of the usual power, pace and intensity that many teams aren't used to.  It'll be interesting to see what they can bring for an away SF.

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Post by Rugby Fan Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:19 pm

Posted comment on the wrong thread!

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Post by jimbopip Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:47 pm

Eejit wrote:Sarries very impressive. Ground is bloody good too.

Time to get drunk.
Done that. Going ho now

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Post by jimbopip Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:51 pm

Should have been home but ho sounds interesting

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Post by cakeordeath Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:43 pm

Great display by Saracens. No complaints got beaten by a much better team.

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Post by BigGee Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:53 pm

Well we got a bit of a doing. Just could not live with them. Good to see Toonie not trying to sugar coat it, they were to strong and we made far to many mistakes. It is going to take a very good team to stop them winning the cup again.

Anyway, apart from the result, it was a great day out. Fantastic support for both teams and a really welcoming atmosphere. They have a good set up at Allianz Park, sure the weather helped, but you kind of feel it would have been an enjoyable day whatever.

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Post by R!skysports Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:22 pm

bad result but good day.


No complaints that they own. Just relentless pressure

God to meet Kelly Brown and Duncan Talyor at the end

Although Farrell was very grumpy


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Post by R!skysports Sun Apr 02, 2017 9:24 pm

R!skysports wrote:bad result but good day.


No complaints that they own. Just relentless pressure

God to meet Kelly Brown and Duncan Talyor at the end

Although Farrell was very grumpy


yes - I am a little pissed

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Post by Eejit Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:03 pm

Echo statements above. Shame we got a bit of a doing. Quality  day our. Support was top-notch.

Bit pished.

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Post by George Carlin Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:41 am

Didn't watch it but well done Sarries.

As predicted, too many important players out or suspended to do ourselves justice.
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Post by beshocked Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:47 am

R!skysports wrote:bad result but good day.


No complaints that they own. Just relentless pressure

God to meet Kelly Brown and Duncan Talyor at the end

Although Farrell was very grumpy


Doesn't surprise me. Being a good rugby player doesn't necessarily make you a good person.

Brown and Taylor are nice blokes though.

I like you Scottish guys, good posters. OK  Glad you had a good day out albeit the result didn't go your way.

It doesn't always - that's why I try and make sure I have good food, good drink and company regardless of the result!

Glad you felt welcomed. It would annoy me if people at Allianz Park made you feel unwelcome.

Quite pleased I wasn't too far off with my prediction. Saracens did also pull away in the last 20 as I thought they would.

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Post by RuggerRadge2611 Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:52 am

I personally think Sarries as a team have a bad reputation as a negative outfit who play anti rugby.

People confuse an extremely solid defence with negative rugby but with the ball in hand yesterday Sarries were lethal, and had it not been for Stuart Hogg Sarries would have been clear in the first half.

I think only Munster have enough to beat that Sarries team, and that match in Dublin is gonna be a cracker.
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Also sadly for Farrell, (who I thought was tremendous) he might be in a bit of bother for the off the ball scrap...

http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/rmurphy/watch-owen-farrell-miss-munster-showdown-brawl-glasgow-win/
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