**** The B+I Lions! (+ 2 Scots)

Poorfour wrote:Players per match point earned in the 6N:
England – 16 players, 19 points – 0.84
Ireland – 11 players, 14 points – 0.79
Scotland – 2 players, 14 points -  0.14
Wales – 12 players, 10 points – 1.20.

TightHEAD wrote:I hope they get stuffed.

Strange that you get an opinion yet I have to shut the F up and watch football. Go and do one.

No9 wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Players per match point earned in the 6N:
England – 16 players, 19 points – 0.84
Ireland – 11 players, 14 points – 0.79
Scotland – 2 players, 14 points -  0.14
Wales – 12 players, 10 points – 1.20.

Fantastic... the most pointless stat I have EVER seen.

Poorfour wrote:

No9 wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Players per match point earned in the 6N:
England – 16 players, 19 points – 0.84
Ireland – 11 players, 14 points – 0.79
Scotland – 2 players, 14 points -  0.14
Wales – 12 players, 10 points – 1.20.

Fantastic... the most pointless stat I have EVER seen.

You're not very au fait with statistics, then. That's OK, I'll explain: the selection isn't well correlated with recent performances.

Poorfour wrote:

No9 wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Players per match point earned in the 6N:
England – 16 players, 19 points – 0.84
Ireland – 11 players, 14 points – 0.79
Scotland – 2 players, 14 points -  0.14
Wales – 12 players, 10 points – 1.20.

Fantastic... the most pointless stat I have EVER seen.

You're not very au fait with statistics, then. That's OK, I'll explain: the selection isn't well correlated with recent performances.

No9 wrote:
2. Don't select the Welsh boys on the tour, and he loses the Welsh players backing when he comes back to the Wales job (like Graham Henry did). Result, Wales looking for a new coach.

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:I do find your new title quite funny tho

No9 wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:I hope they get stuffed.

Strange that you get an opinion yet I have to shut the F up and watch football. Go and do one.

A true rugby fan..

No 7&1/2 wrote:Surely with professionalism making money became more important not less?

Gwlad wrote:use 'has' not 'as' ffs man, select the 'h'. Is basic grammar beyond you?

Gwlad wrote:is there anything worse than a whining defeatist like the OP

SecretFly wrote:

No 7&1/2 wrote:Surely with professionalism making money became more important not less?

Correct.  So as few Scots as possible coz they wouldn't exactly bring sufficient bums on seats to the product.

Gwlad wrote:It is true certain players are very fortunate to have been picked:

Te'o - shocked
George - over his Captain, ouch
Kruis - over Launchbury has to hurt
Te'o - for good measure still shocked

And glad all the nonsense about Ford, Robshaw and Haskell, even some buffoons calling for Brown - has been put to bed once and for all.

Brown should of been in instead of Halfpenny. simple as that.

Gwlad wrote:

And glad all the nonsense about Ford, Robshaw and Haskell, even some buffoons calling for Brown - has been put to bed once and for all.

No9 wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:

little_badger wrote:Squad aside, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the head coach of the Lions should not be a national coach. Even if there is no actual bias the perception is that there will be. It's why Geech worked so well.

It makes sense.

Rubbish... for that to work it would have to be a non British or Irish coach, as any conceived bias would still be argued. So what do you do then. Get a French, S African, Australian, Kiwi, Argentinian or maybe Italian coach. Lets be sensible. It has to be a coach from the Britain or Ireland, maybe not a current national coach, but still has to be someone with present experience of the current players.

Cant say, I'm happy with Gats taken the job, for two reasons.

1. Beat the All Blacks and Hansen will be on his way, leaving Gats prime candidate for the job he really wants. Result, Wales looking for new coach.
2. Don't select the Welsh boys on the tour, and he loses the Welsh players backing when he comes back to the Wales job (like Graham Henry did). Result, Wales looking for a new coach.
3. Select the Welsh boys and loose the series, everyone else on his back.. Result, who knows may decide to pack it in...

Either way, its a poison chalice I would rather he didn't have. But he does have it, so he, the captain and the team will get my full support (Even the English contingent).

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

SecretFly wrote:Opinions don't have sounds!  Will you lot brush up on your grammaticalisticisms!!!!

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

majesticimperialman wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

Newsilure wrote:

But on the general question of G's selection policy this board is reacting almost as angrily as in 2013 and remember how that turned out.

TightHEAD wrote:Roberts could help out the medical staff for when they get battered in the 1st game.

Poorfour wrote:

No9 wrote:

Poorfour wrote:Players per match point earned in the 6N:
England – 16 players, 19 points – 0.84
Ireland – 11 players, 14 points – 0.79
Scotland – 2 players, 14 points -  0.14
Wales – 12 players, 10 points – 1.20.

Fantastic... the most pointless stat I have EVER seen.

You're not very au fait with statistics, then. That's OK, I'll explain: the selection isn't well correlated with recent performances.

Newsilure wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

Agree about the low number of Scots, they made the 6N's a lot more fun to watch this year and should be better represented, probably one of the Grey brothers, maybe Russell and Weir would have made a great tourist and mid week leader.  

But on the general question of G's selection policy this board is reacting almost as angrily as in 2013 and remember how that turned out.

GunsGermsV2 wrote:When Henry coached Wales they didnt exactly have a great team or players other than the guys like Gibbs and Jenkins that were picked. Wales finished last that year in the 6N. It would have been ridiculous if Henry picked a lot of Welsh players.

highland_scot wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

Agree about the low number of Scots, they made the 6N's a lot more fun to watch this year and should be better represented, probably one of the Grey brothers, maybe Russell and Weir would have made a great tourist and mid week leader.  

But on the general question of G's selection policy this board is reacting almost as angrily as in 2013 and remember how that turned out.

Doddie Weir? Because it certainly can't be Duncan...

majesticimperialman wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

Gwlad wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

Must be copying Sir Clive who took 20 English to NZ in the 2005 debacle tour and only 10 Welsh after they'd won a Grand Slam.


Maybe he will get the same result then.

majesticimperialman wrote:

Gwlad wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

Newsilure wrote:

TightHEAD wrote:Taking 12 Welshmen to NZ to beat a team only their Great Great Granddad's can remember beating is tacking the biscuit.

Sorry, forgot they start early in the Valleys.

Maybe he is remembering that the only time the BLs have beaten NZ the team was packed with Welshmen, if something works why not try it again. Very disappointed Gethin Jenkins not in squad, far to many non welsh props in this squad.



Far to many non welsh props in the squad.


Far to many Welsh players in the squad. And not enough Scots players. Seeing that Scotland finished higher than Wales this year.

Must be copying Sir Clive who took 20 English to NZ in the 2005 debacle tour and only 10 Welsh after they'd won a Grand Slam.


Maybe he will get the same result then.

TightHEAD wrote:Only a fool would bet against a 3-0 NZ win.