Champions trophy 2017 discussion thread

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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So it all kicks off today with England's game against Bangladesh at the oval

My prediction is victory for Australia overall....

Should be a really entertaining tournament!

[KP_fan]

Well SL are in the game still......
India needs wickets

[guildfordbat]

Only following intermittently on cricinfo but it seems Sri Lanka are soon going to be too much behind the rate to be able to turn it round. Is that right?

[KP_fan]

they smacked 16 of this jadeja over and RRR down to 7
they are ahead in the game now

[wisden]

Would be great for the comp to have another upset like this, and would mean that in the last round of games in this group anyone could go through..

[KP_fan]

It's Lanka's game to lose now...a silly give way wicket
triggering a collapse is the only way they can lose

[robbo277]

2 run-outs of well set batsmen. Criminal.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

It's Lanka's game to lose now...a silly give way wicket
triggering a collapse is the only way they can lose

Two silly run outs put India back in control - game rests on the wicket of Matthews

From a neutral standpoint a Sri Lanka win is what's needed for these final round of group games

[wisden]

This group would be blown wide open if sri lanka won this game..would give SA aother chance..who let's be honest need to look at their bowling attack, they need more control from their seamers, too many wayward deliveries in there attack and extras...they have a wealth of options to choose from..

[jimbohammers]

Against a good team that score would be under par. Very short boundary on one side

I can see only England overhauling that type of score 5 out 10 times against this Indian team.

Others like SA and Aus would have a hit rate of 2 to 3 times..
and NZ 1 out 10 times

As i was saying KP, your score was under par...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Why have they sent Gunaratne in ahead of Chandimal?

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Kusul Perera retires hurt - hamstring. All on Angelo now

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Why have they sent Gunaratne in ahead of Chandimal?

He was listed at 5 originally - 2 spots down now

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Against a good team that score would be under par. Very short boundary on one side

I can see only England overhauling that type of score 5 out 10 times against this Indian team.

Others like SA and Aus would have a hit rate of 2 to 3 times..
and NZ 1 out 10 times

As i was saying KP, your score was under par...

Well below par it seems - Sri Lanka doing this at a canter despite throwing two wickets away and one batsman retiring hurt

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I think India need to reassess their approach with their batting personally - yes they did fine, but when you're scoring 100 off the last 10 overs, that should be taking to a score of 350+, not to a score of 320ish. One of Rohit/Dhawan needs to go harder in those opening 10 overs, try get the team off to a flyer. And ultimately, if they're going to be in for 120/130 balls, they need to end up scoring at a strike rate of well over 100+

[KP_fan]

Against a good team that score would be under par. Very short boundary on one side

I can see only England overhauling that type of score 5 out 10 times against this Indian team.

Others like SA and Aus would have a hit rate of 2 to 3 times..
and NZ 1 out 10 times

As i was saying KP, your score was under par...

so much under par...that Lanka had to make their highest score chasing in their 40 year history to get past it

On a serious note....no one expected Lanka to chase and that too so nonchalantly.......the expected and likely collapse also never came.
Even the Indian team got carried away with it's own perceived strength....and absolutely so once they scored 320.....they thought game is over.
And cricket the glorious game it is...pulls the mightiest down...

so here we are with one round to go 7 teams are still in reckoning for 3 s.f spots

[VTR]

Didn't see that result coming, I thought such a run chase was way beyond Sri Lanka. England would love either Sri Lanka or Pakistan in the semi-final. As good as those teams can be on their day they both also have the capability to not even turn up. India and SA don't often cough up easy wins like the other two do

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Kane Williamson is in, what you would describe as, "good nick"

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Kane Williamson is in, what you would describe as, "good nick"

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Jinxed him, run out in a mix up with Taylor.

Thought they'd gotten those out of their systems - that used to happen a lot a couple of years back

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

That run out a big boost for my Ross Taylor highest NZ scorer bet

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

That run out a big boost for my Ross Taylor highest NZ scorer bet

I've got Kane in my Bru fantasy lite - at least he outscored Guptil so a decent haul even if Taylor scores big. Just need the Bangla top 3 to fail.

I had Ronchi as my "other" batsman - so much for backing the flat track bully

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Taylor gone for 63.

218/4 in the 43rd - acceleration needed

[VTR]

NZ really lack batting outside of the top 4. Surely there's got to be better players than Broom out there? Anderson being completely out of form isn't helping though - 18 runs in 3 matches so far

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

NZ really lack batting outside of the top 4. Surely there's got to be better players than Broom out there? Anderson being completely out of form isn't helping though - 18 runs in 3 matches so far  

I'd drop Broom, put Neesham up to 5, Anderson to 6 & bring in de Grandhomme (or Munro who sadly isn't in the squad) - Anderson needs to be higher than 6 to build an innings before going big, CDG can hit from the get go. And he'd be a useful bowler on English pitches

[VTR]

That sounds like an improvement - NZ feel a bit like 4 out, all out with this line up. Broom made some runs today but is the kind of player the opposition are happy to see stay in as he won't hurt them by suddenly upping the scoring rate

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

It's all moot as I'd say we're going home after this. Sigh.

[VTR]

It's all moot as I'd say we're going home after this. Sigh.

You've go a chance if Boult/and or Southee get it right at the start, both can run through the top order on their day - I am not writing NZ off just yet, in fact I've got a sneaking feeling this is going to be the first tight game of the tournament

[alfie]

NZ proving once again their tail starts at five...OK , Broom got a few this time , but still...

I do rate their bowlers so not awarding the game to Bangladesh yet. But I wonder on this effort if Bangladesh might not prove better opposition for whoever wins the other group knockouts than the Kiwis ? Of course they have to not only haul this total in but also hope England beat Australia tomorrow ; but who'd have thought they'd be in with a serious chance of making the semis at all ? Especially after losing their first match .

Expect NZ to fight tooth and nail though.

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Bangladesh 14/3 in the 7th.

Singing ...
"Oh there's only one Tim Southee, one Tim Southee, one Tim Southee ..."

[alfie]

Then again , who needs batsmen when you have Southee and Boult

Might be something in this theory that this pitch gets progressively harder to bat on , eh ? Looks as if NZ got it right at the toss...

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

53/4 after 15. Though NZ have used up 7 overs of Southee & 5 of Boult.

That said, Milne is also looking lethal

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

Century stand between Shakib & Mahmadullah at a decent clip, Neesham & Anderson going for a few runs sharing 5th bowler duties

133/4 off 29, NZ were 148/2 at the same stage, albeit about to lose Williamson

[VTR]

Well I did warn the Bangladesh top order about an on form Boult or Southee They are coming back into this though, still feel there are some twists and turns coming

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

Not wanting Australia to win but would rather see Lynn get a game tomorrow in place of Finch. Finch has been pretty awful for a long time now. Lynn had a decent IPL and seems a pretty good player

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

This looks like being the tight game VTR predicted earlier....

[Pete C (Kiwireddevil)]

This looks like being the tight game VTR predicted earlier....

Not if these 2 bat much longer

[KP_fan]

BD was in my list to watch out for for a s.f slot.....extremely improved side.......with a much improved ODI win percentage over their last 30 games 

and have won tests vs Eng at home and vs NZ in NZ this season

my wish-script

BD win today
Eng beat Aus
Ind beats SA
Lanka beats Pak

India beats BD in semis
Lanka beats Eng in semis

India beats Lanka, wins the cup and avenges the defeat 

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

This looks like being the tight game VTR predicted earlier....

Not if these 2 bat much longer

Bangladesh's to lose now...bit disappointed by the crowds in Cardiff so far...don't think it was full for the England game and it's barely half full here. Would've been better to have the third ground be Manchester or Headingley surely? (seeing as Lords is unavailable for some reason)

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Bangladesh's highest ever ODI partnership, and probably their greatest. 26 off the final 5 overs required

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Shakib goes to a magnificent hundred with a towering six off Milne - what an innings!

[KP_fan]

he was trying to finish the game  in the next two balls......shakib gone for one of the most brilliant 100s in a big game....

mahmudullah breathes a sigh of relief.....will get a chance to get a 100

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

And now Mahmudullah gets to his hundred - what an innings, what a partnership - absolutely magnificent

[KP_fan]

and take a bow ...mahmudullah get an unbeaten 100

3 days in a row the underdog wins.......the brilliant game of cricket

[KO-KING]

What an innings what a player Shakib

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

For those of you who missed that (Sorry Pete!) I would implore you to catch the highlights. One of the best ever ODI partnerships I've ever seen.

[KO-KING]

I caught the end, highlights will be on Iplayer

Bangladesh new Zealand are always crackers, 30-4, I was kindof surprised new zealand were running on very them, as bangladesh beat them in Ireland, but thought it may be because Boult and southee were not playing, mahmadullah at full flow is one of the better players to watch in world cricket

I think him and tamim in wc 15 had a good partnership and it was a great watch, as tamim and mahmadullah are one of my favourite players to watch

This win will be great if Australia gets knocked out, reminds me of 05, when they lost to bd in Cardiff, showed Australia could be rattled... Still the best cricketing summer ever

[KO-KING]

Also, what a pitch, about time, not surprising the best game came on a even contest between bat and ball 270 par wicket

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Not CT related, but Rashid Khan the Afghan sensation leggie took 7-18 against the West Indies in the first ODI yesterday as Afghanistan won comfortably. Be a good series that

[KO-KING]

He's meant to be 18...even if he's 26 he's still class

[VTR]

Looks like a talent, shame he will probably never get many chances to test himself at a higher level. How bad for the Windies though, not in the CT so instead playing and getting pummelled by Afghanistan. Arguably a new low for them

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