Highlanders v British & Irish Lions, June 13

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Highlanders v British & Irish Lions
13 June 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin

Live on Sky Sports, Sky Sports HD and SkyGo

Referee: Angus Gardner (Australia)
Touch judges: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. FORM:

18 June 2005: Otago 19 - 30 British & Irish Lions

5 June 1993: Otago 37 - 24 British & Irish Lions

8 June 1977: Otago 17 - 12 British & Irish Lions

B. TEAMS:

Highlanders 
01. Daniel Lienert-Brown
02. Liam Coltman
03. Siate Tokolahi
04. Alex Ainley
05. Jackson Hemopo
06. Gareth Evans
07. Dillon Hunt
08. Luke Whitelock (C)

09. Kayne Hammington
10. Lima Sopoaga
11. Tevita Li
12. Teihorangi Walden
13. Malakai Fekitoa
14. Waisake Naholo
15. Richard Buckman

16. Greg Pleasants-Tate
17. Aki Seiuli
18. Siosuia Halanukonuka
19. Josh Dickson
20. Jimmy Lentjes
21. Josh Renton
22. Marty Banks
23. Patrick Osborne

British & Irish Lions
15 Jared Payne – Ulster, Ireland, #830
14 Jack Nowell – Exeter Chiefs, England, #828
13 Jonathan Joseph – Bath Rugby, England, #809
12 Robbie Henshaw – Leinster, Ireland, #824
11 Tommy Seymour – Glasgow Warriors, Scotland, #813
10 Dan Biggar – Ospreys, Wales, #821
9 Rhys Webb – Ospreys, Wales, #820

1 Joe Marler – Harlequins, England, #811
2 Rory Best – Ulster, Ireland, #793
3 Kyle Sinckler – Harlequins, England, #814
4 Courtney Lawes – Northampton Saints, England, #826
5 Iain Henderson – Ulster, Ireland, #808
6 James Haskell – Wasps, England, #823
7 Sam Warburton (capt) – Cardiff Blues, Wales, #800
8 CJ Stander – Munster, Ireland, #831

16 Ken Owens – Scarlets, Wales, #829
17 Jack McGrath – Leinster, Ireland, #827
18 Dan Cole – Leicester Tigers, England, #794
19 Alun Wyn Jones – Ospreys, Wales, #761
20 Justin Tipuric – Ospreys, Wales, #786
21 Greig Laidlaw – Gloucester Rugby, Scotland, #810
22 Owen Farrell – Saracens, England, #780
23 Elliot Daly – Wasps, England, #822

Warbs is fit!

What sort of contribution is Warbs making? Stats seem to indicate he is a peripheral figure in defence and attack - but they can be misleading.

Jack showing me why he is in the team right then! I take it back...being industrious has its merits. Well done Webb too who is having a great game (wont be enough to dislodge Murray I dont think)

marty2086 wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Great break and pass from Sinkler but poor handling from Payne...

Great pass? billy sort out those eyes of yours

The pass was short

Oh wow... You asking me to sort my eyes? It was a decent pass.

LondonTiger wrote:What sort of contribution is Warbs making? Stats seem to indicate he is a peripheral figure in defence and attack - but they can be misleading.

Invisible

LondonTiger wrote:What sort of contribution is Warbs making? Stats seem to indicate he is a peripheral figure in defence and attack - but they can be misleading.

He's a passenger

eirebilly wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Great break and pass from Sinkler but poor handling from Payne...

Great pass? billy sort out those eyes of yours

The pass was short

Oh wow... You asking me to sort my eyes? It was a decent pass.

A minute ago it was great now its decent, if decent is in Paynes vicinity then you're right when a player on the run has to reach down to their side to catch a pass its decent at a stretch

marty2086 wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Great break and pass from Sinkler but poor handling from Payne...

Great pass? billy sort out those eyes of yours

The pass was short

Really Billy? The pass should have been a least a foot in front of where it was.
Great break, great pass if Payne had been standing still

Someone get Billy his glasses, preferably not his whiskey ones

Good half of high intensity rugby

Pete330v2 wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Great break and pass from Sinkler but poor handling from Payne...

Great pass? billy sort out those eyes of yours

The pass was short

Really Billy? The pass should have been a least a foot in front of where it was.
Great break, great pass if Payne had been standing still

Someone get Billy his glasses, preferably not his whiskey ones

Away witcha Pete

Payne really should have taken that

I think Payne has had a mixed bag today, he has made some great defensive tackles and some bad ones. I still firmly stand by my comments that in the SH he is a better 13 than 15 but in the NH he is a better 15 than 13.

eirebilly wrote:

marty2086 wrote:

eirebilly wrote:Great break and pass from Sinkler but poor handling from Payne...

Great pass? billy sort out those eyes of yours

The pass was short

Oh wow... You asking me to sort my eyes? It was a decent pass.

Thought the pass was fine

Payne made a meal of it

Warbs said himself this was the game where he had to stand up. Trouble is, he hasn't... Reckon he'll be back in against the Maoris and that could be his last chance, if we don't see a massive performance in the second half.

Our conversion rate of chances to actual scoring are too low.

Still too many mistakes; judgement and skill

Joseph showed his class and has to be in the test squad

Tried to listen to the first half but got called away from my desk. Summary please anyone? Seen the score, was Joseph's try good? Who's shone?

No9 wrote:Warbs said himself this was the game where he had to stand up. Trouble is, he hasn't... Reckon he'll be back in against the Maoris and that could be his last chance, if we don't see a massive performance in the second half.

Shanks said if he's fit then he will start the fist test. I hope that isn't true as Obrien in particular & Tipuric are way ahead at 7 & Pom/Stander at 6.

robbo277 wrote:Tried to listen to the first half but got called away from my desk. Summary please anyone? Seen the score, was Joseph's try good? Who's shone?

From the breakdown, Stander ran an excellent line drawing to defenders, offloaded to Biggar who also drew a man and threw a good pass to JJ. It was JJ's pace that got him over the line. Was a good try.

kingelderfield wrote:Our conversion rate of chances to actual scoring are too low.

Still too many mistakes; judgement and skill

Joseph showed his class and has to be in the test squad

Joseph is like a few today, he's done some things well and some things poorly

We are going to miss Lawes, he was playing very well and possibly into the test team. That looked like a bad one, possibly a tour ender.

No doubt now, that test 9s will be Murrayand Webb, the challenge now will be who starts and who is in the bench.

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

No9 wrote:Warbs said himself this was the game where he had to stand up. Trouble is, he hasn't... Reckon he'll be back in against the Maoris and that could be his last chance, if we don't see a massive performance in the second half.

Shanks said if he's fit then he will start the fist test. I hope that isn't true as Obrien in particular & Tipuric are way ahead at 7 & Pom/Stander at 6.

Personally, I think that Haskell is again having a poor game at 6. Just does not seem to be defensively aware of his surroundings.

robbo277 wrote:Tried to listen to the first half but got called away from my desk. Summary please anyone? Seen the score, was Joseph's try good? Who's shone?

Lawes started well now off with head injury. Good showings from Webb, Biggar, JJ & Sinckler

eirebilly wrote:

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

No9 wrote:Warbs said himself this was the game where he had to stand up. Trouble is, he hasn't... Reckon he'll be back in against the Maoris and that could be his last chance, if we don't see a massive performance in the second half.

Shanks said if he's fit then he will start the fist test. I hope that isn't true as Obrien in particular & Tipuric are way ahead at 7 & Pom/Stander at 6.

Personally, I think that Haskell is again having a poor game at 6. Just does not seem to be defensively aware of his surroundings.

Hes been a penalty machine this tour

Need a new back row in the second half

eirebilly wrote:

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

No9 wrote:Warbs said himself this was the game where he had to stand up. Trouble is, he hasn't... Reckon he'll be back in against the Maoris and that could be his last chance, if we don't see a massive performance in the second half.

Shanks said if he's fit then he will start the fist test. I hope that isn't true as Obrien in particular & Tipuric are way ahead at 7 & Pom/Stander at 6.

Personally, I think that Haskell is again having a poor game at 6. Just does not seem to be defensively aware of his surroundings.

The whole back row are struggling to be fair.

No9 wrote:No doubt now, that test 9s will be Murrayand Webb, the challenge now will be who starts and who is in the bench.

I think it will be Murray but Webb has again stuck his hand high in the air. Excellent competition for the 9 jersey.

eirebilly wrote:

No9 wrote:No doubt now, that test 9s will be Murrayand Webb, the challenge now will be who starts and who is in the bench.

I think it will be Murray but Webb has again stuck his hand high in the air. Excellent competition for the 9 jersey.

Agreed his kicking game is far superior & will be important test time.

Tommy Seymour!!!!!!!

He saw that coming!

And that Ladies and Gentlemen is what Seymour brings. Outstanding play for him to get the try

Good lad took it well

Amazing read from Seymour

eirebilly wrote:

robbo277 wrote:Tried to listen to the first half but got called away from my desk. Summary please anyone? Seen the score, was Joseph's try good? Who's shone?

From the breakdown, Stander ran an excellent line drawing to defenders, offloaded to Biggar who also drew a man and threw a good pass to JJ. It was JJ's pace that got him over the line. Was a good try.

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

robbo277 wrote:Tried to listen to the first half but got called away from my desk. Summary please anyone? Seen the score, was Joseph's try good? Who's shone?

Lawes started well now off with head injury. Good showings from Webb, Biggar, JJ & Sinckler

Thanks both. Have we looked more of try threat in general? I suppose it the 9/10/13 are doing well then we have to be!

Jesus the radio is a minute behind.

Some people say interceptions are lucky but Tommy Seymour gets a ridiculous number of them - great to hear he's got one today

RDW_Scotland wrote:Some people say interceptions are lucky but Tommy Seymour gets a ridiculous number of them - great to hear he's got one today

Na they are anticipation and risk taking.

Just like Habana used to .. its not a coincidence

RDW_Scotland wrote:Some people say interceptions are lucky but Tommy Seymour gets a ridiculous number of them - great to hear he's got one today

It wasn't an interception, it was a brilliant read from a 'kick pass' (highlanders have made loads today) and take then run to the line. Showed great awareness and speed to get that try. Proper individual try that.

eirebilly wrote:

RDW_Scotland wrote:Some people say interceptions are lucky but Tommy Seymour gets a ridiculous number of them - great to hear he's got one today

It wasn't an interception, it was a brilliant read from a 'kick pass' (highlanders have made loads today) and take then run to the line. Showed great awareness and speed to get that try. Proper individual try that.

Ah OK - great to hear! He's been doing that for Glasgow and Scotland for years.

He also may be a good option to counteract Barritt - he loves a kick pass and Seymour is so good at reading them.

It is moments like this that can get wingers test places!

Good play from the forwards but AWJ spoils it by running into his own player.
Some great running play by Webb before that

Webb off (is he injured, he was limping?) and Laidlaw on. I like Laidlaw but he is a more controlling 9 than attacking 9. The Lions may lose some of their attacking threat now.

JJ scores a lot of intercept tries.

Last season Leicester conceded a lot of them (3 at Scotstoun?). Once upon a time intercepts may have been lucky, but now it is usually down to pressure and an excellent reading of the situation.

FFS, Webb off.

This will cost us.

Great game reading by Seymour...will he get those chances against all blacks though...doubtful. Then the weakness showed 5 mins later as he gets knocked back far to easily again.

Penalty given away again...havent seen the penalty count...whats it like, anyone know?

So has anyone played themselves into the test side for 1st game? Has anyones poor performances taken them completely out of contention?

Naholo sounds like he's showing why he's an AB starter.

Game in the balance, Lions subs need to impact!

That is one of the downsides to Sincklers game, that was a needles late barge off the ball to give a stupid penalty away there.

That's SW into the test team!

Warburton with the try. I think its fair to say that it was a very good try from him but about the only meaningful contribution in the match from him.

Dan Cole and Ken Owens on, what an upgrade to have on the bench.

5 m scrum to Lions after mistake behind their own line.

Pressure tells after a few carries & finally Warbs makes a contribution with a carry stretch and try

BigGee wrote:That's SW into the test team!

Shane Williams?!