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Post by George Carlin Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:27 pm

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ChiefsBritish & Irish Lions
20 June 2017
KO: 19:35 NZST (8.35am BST)
Waikato Stadium, Hamilton

Live on Sky Sports, Sky Sports HD and SkyGo

Referee: Jérôme Garcès (France)
Touch judges: [tbc]
TMO: [tbc]

A. FORM:

1993-06-29 
Waikato 38 - 10 British and Irish Lions

1983-07-12
Waikato 13 - 40 British and Irish Lions

1977-07-16
Waikato 13 - 18 British and Irish Lions

B. TEAMS:

Chiefs
1. Siegfried Fisi'ihoi (24)
2. Liam Polwart (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (11)
4. Dominic Bird (25)
5. Michael Allardice (20)
6. Mitchell Brown (14)
7. Lachlan Boshier (15)
8. Tom Sanders (19)

9. Finlay Christie (6)
10. Stephen Donald (c) (100)
11. Solomon Alaimalo (6)
12. Johnny Faauli (5)
13. Tim Nanai-Williams (82)
14. Toni Pulu (21)
15. Shaun Stevenson (21)

16. Hika Elliot (116)
17. Aidan Ross (2)
18. Atu Moli (24)
19. Liam Messam (159)
20. Mitchell Karpik (5)
21. Jonathan Taumateine (6)
22. Luteru Laulala (0)
23. Chase Tiatia (0)

British & Irish Lions
15. Liam Williams
14. Jack Nowell
13. Jared Payne
12. Robbie Henshaw
11. Elliot Daly
10. Dan Biggar
9. Greig Laidlaw

8. CJ Stander
7. Justin Tipuric
6. James Haskell
5. Courtney Lawes
4. Iain Henderson
3. Dan Cole
2. Rory Best (captain)
1. Joe Marler

16. Kristian Dacey
17. Allan Dell
18. Tomas Francis
19. Cory Hill
20. Alun Wyn Jones
21. Gareth Davies
22. Finn Russell
23. Tommy Seymour

C. PREVIEW


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Post by LondonTiger Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:27 am

Lions squad playing like guys who are angry (angry to be consigned to the dustbin I guess). While at times this is creating poor decision making (Marler) it is also making them determined.

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:28 am

Yeah Nowell has been busy and looking for work

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Post by TightHEAD Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:30 am

Marler wasn't that bad, yellow at most . Over reaction from some of you by the looks of it.
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Post by Scottrf Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:31 am

TightHEAD wrote:Marler wasn't that bad, yellow at most . Over reaction from some of you by the looks of it.

Did you have a good angle in the stands though?

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:31 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Sounds like a decent enough first half from the Lions - could do with getting a bigger lead to avoid the inevitable last 15 capitulation!

And also because our bench is awful.

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:31 am

Done Biggar has put a shift in for the 1st half. If he is third choice then the others must be bloody awesome.


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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:31 am

I'm surprised you say that Tighthead as that was worse than the accidental hit by Cane on the Irish guy in Dublin. Go figure.

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Post by mikey_dragon Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:34 am

"Save for the odd bit of ill-discipline, the Lions have played well and are good value for their half-time lead.

And players like Liam Williams, Jack Nowell and James Haskell - all quiet on tour so far - are looking more comfortable in the Lions jersey.

Dan Biggar and Courtney Lawes have both been excellent as well."

Now watching but I just read this.



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Post by Fanster Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:34 am

Interestingly Biggar is having to try to shine with what looks like prop passing from Laidlaw, who has to be as far from a test spots anyone out there!

Henshaw is having a decent game, I think he enjoys Biggars line speed, but Payne and Nowell are so weak defencively, they are allover the shop. Luckily Nowell is showing good work rate in attack.

One name noone is mentioning, is Tipuric, he is involved in every cover tackle, every Chiefs breakdown, and is covering every blade of grass!


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Post by Gooseberry Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:34 am

ebop wrote:Yeah Nowell has been busy and looking for work

Well he needs a job for the weekend

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Post by Fanster Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:35 am

Lawes is going well too, he needs to work harder in defence, but as good as a lock performance we've seen on tour imo

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Post by Gooseberry Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:36 am

ebop wrote:It's just funny, big forwards screaming like girls. We're not used it down in NZ. It's just a weak thing to do.

Unless you slap your thighs and stick your tongue out first right?

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Post by Scottrf Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:36 am

If you were wondering how they get used to the lineout calls, McGrath confirms it's on a forwards whatsapp group.

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:36 am

Lawes is having a good game, he just looks like a penalty waiting to happen though. If he can control his emotions, and keep his discipline he could be a fine addition to the test side.

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Post by yappysnap Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:38 am

Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Had Nowell improved or was the try a gimme?

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Post by BigGee Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:40 am

That's why Rory Best won't be playing in the tests. Happens to often

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Post by marty2086 Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:40 am

yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




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Post by yappysnap Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:41 am

marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




So I guess it's between those two and Kruis so far?

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:42 am

Gatland's sooka bubba act during the week is paying dividends now with a blocking call made. Rory Best with two crooked line out throws in a row and gets pinged for the second. Good work ref Wink

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:42 am

BigGee wrote:That's why Rory Best won't be playing in the tests. Happens to often

This.

It's a shame because the rest of his game is quite decent.

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Post by marty2086 Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:43 am

yappysnap wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




So I guess it's between those two and Kruis so far?

Kruis and Itoje based on Saturday for me, Henderson and Lawes playing for a bench spot. In terms of impact I think Henderson offers more

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:44 am

marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




So I guess it's between those two and Kruis so far?

Kruis and Itoje based on Saturday for me, Henderson and Lawes playing for a bench spot. In terms of impact I think Henderson offers more

Yet there's a fair chance AWJ will either be starting or on the bench.

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:44 am

ebop wrote:Gatland's sooka bubba act during the week is paying dividends now with a blocking call made. Rory Best with two crooked line out throws in a row and gets pinged for the second. Good work ref Wink

Well perhaps they should stop doing it. What is the difference between that and this shouting at the line out you have focused on ?

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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:45 am

And there's confusion as to why Ireland's attack is so blunt. Henshaw is just not good at 12. I can't believe he has genuinely been converted to play there. Every time there has been an attacking opportunity he has butchered it.

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Post by yappysnap Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:46 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




So I guess it's between those two and Kruis so far?

Kruis and Itoje based on Saturday for me, Henderson and Lawes playing for a bench spot. In terms of impact I think Henderson offers more

Yet there's a fair chance AWJ will either be starting or on the bench.


Doh

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:46 am

LordDowlais wrote:
ebop wrote:Gatland's sooka bubba act during the week is paying dividends now with a blocking call made. Rory Best with two crooked line out throws in a row and gets pinged for the second. Good work ref Wink

Well perhaps they should stop doing it. What is the difference between that and this shouting at the line out you have focused on ?

I figure a gentlemen's agreement is in order. The AB's should agree to only block offside players. Granted it won't reduce it a huge amount ... Wink
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Post by Rory_Gallagher Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:47 am

Gooseberry wrote:
ebop wrote:It's just funny, big forwards screaming like girls. We're not used it down in NZ. It's just a weak thing to do.

Unless you slap your thighs and stick your tongue out first right?

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:48 am

Lawes with another head clash

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:50 am

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Gooseberry wrote:
ebop wrote:It's just funny, big forwards screaming like girls. We're not used it down in NZ. It's just a weak thing to do.

Unless you slap your thighs and stick your tongue out first right?

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Post by marty2086 Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:52 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




So I guess it's between those two and Kruis so far?

Kruis and Itoje based on Saturday for me, Henderson and Lawes playing for a bench spot. In terms of impact I think Henderson offers more

Yet there's a fair chance AWJ will either be starting or on the bench.

Yet Im not sure why, not sure what he offers that others don't bring to the table

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:53 am

Right time to turn the screw now

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:55 am

Lawes looks groggy. Should he have come back on?
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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:56 am

Nice try

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:57 am

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:Lawes looks groggy. Should he have come back on?

He's had 2 big head knocks now - I'd be amazed if he was completely fine after both.

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Post by LondonTiger Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:58 am

Chiefs setpiece has been shockingly poor. Good try though.

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Post by LondonTiger Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:59 am

J Nowell & P Try the leading try scorers for Lions?

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:59 am

Ben Kay - 'Lions try of the series so far' to be fair there's not much competition for that accolade! Laugh

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:00 am

Four players who have seriously staked at least a claim for the bench spot so far today:-

Dan Biggar
Liam Williams
Courtney Lawes
Jack Nowell

These guys will at least have given the coaches something to think about.

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:02 am

LordDowlais wrote:Four players who have seriously staked at least a claim for the bench spot so far today:-

Dan Biggar
Liam Williams
Courtney Lawes
Jack Nowell

These guys will at least have given the coaches something to think about.

Interestingly there's a comment on BBC sport feed asking why Williams is being considered for the tests as he's not had a good tour!

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Post by Scottrf Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:03 am

Well Williams has been absolutely useless this tour but sounds good here!

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Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:03 am

LondonTiger wrote:Chiefs setpiece has been shockingly poor. Good try though.
Missing a lot of players to be fair

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Post by BamBam Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:03 am

marty2086 wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:
marty2086 wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Sounds like Lawes is having another great game. He must be a starting lock in the Tests now?

Missing the game but following on BBC website, Moyne saying Lawes is great but others saying Henderson is at his best ripping the ball in the tackle, is a monster at the ruck and running the lineout well




So I guess it's between those two and Kruis so far?

Kruis and Itoje based on Saturday for me, Henderson and Lawes playing for a bench spot. In terms of impact I think Henderson offers more

Yet there's a fair chance AWJ will either be starting or on the bench.

Yet Im not sure why, not sure what he offers that others don't bring to the table

Pashun and Ekshperiensh

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:03 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Interestingly there's a comment on BBC sport feed asking why Williams is being considered for the tests as he's not had a good tour!

Well I am watching the game, Liam has not taken a step backwards, he is playing a blinder. It's probably just some one eyed fan on the get involved option saying things like that.

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Post by Scottrf Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:07 am

LordDowlais wrote:
RDW_Scotland wrote:Interestingly there's a comment on BBC sport feed asking why Williams is being considered for the tests as he's not had a good tour!

Well I am watching the game, Liam has not taken a step backwards, he is playing a blinder. It's probably just some one eyed fan on the get involved option saying things like that.
Or that from his first 4 high balls he gave away 2 pens and a yellow, fell over once and backed out of the other.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:09 am

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:Lawes looks groggy. Should he have come back on?


That's his usual look in fairness, always looks on the verge of sleep.

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Post by LordDowlais Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:09 am

Scottrf wrote:Or that from his first 4 high balls he gave away 2 pens and a yellow, fell over once and backed out of the other.

I cannot remember that happening in this game. Rolling Eyes

But I did just see him totally cut the Chiefs defence to pieces and give Payne a stroll over try.


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Post by BigGee Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:09 am

Gatland just re-iterating to the called up players that they are second class players by not giving any of them a chance off the bench. What you would have imagined I guess.

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Post by RDW Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:10 am

BigGee wrote:Gatland just re-iterating to the called up players that they are second class players by not giving any of them a chance off the bench. What you would have imagined I guess.

A shame given how big a lead we now have - even giving Funn Russell 20 minutes would have been a benefit.

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Post by Scottrf Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:11 am

LordDowlais wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Or that from his first 4 high balls he gave away 2 pens and a yellow, fell over once and backed out of the other.

I cannot remember that happening in this game. Rolling Eyes

But I did just see him totally cut the Chiefs defence to pieces and give Payne a stroll over try.

Nobody said this game. They said tour.

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Chiefs v British & Irish Lions, 20 June - Page 4 Empty Re: Chiefs v British & Irish Lions, 20 June

Post by Guest Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:11 am

LordDowlais wrote:
Scottrf wrote:Or that from his first 4 high balls he gave away 2 pens and a yellow, fell over once and backed out of the other.

I cannot remember that happening in this game. Rolling Eyes

But I did just see him totally cut the Chiefs defence to pieces and give Payne a stroll over try.

Pretty much all he's done

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