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This Week's Fixtures

Week 17
Perth Morning Glory  v Melbourne City
Melbourne Victory  v Sydney FC
Brisbane Roar  v Adelaide United
Newcastle Jets  v Wellington Phoenix
Western Sydney Wanderers  v Central Coast Mariners
 

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This Week's Key Deadlines

- 2 new Lawyers drawn on Tuesday
- Injuries drawn Wednesday
- 2 releases per week max
- Tactics due Friday

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Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VM9eIonYMyXCXpQOBjAJylh3wihazcw8RKtLLHiD8HI/htmlview#gid=1996389080

Team	_________	Manager
Adelaide United	_________	Hero
Brisbane Roar	_________	Miky
Central Coast Mariners	_________	Olly
Melbourne City	_________	Twist
Melbourne Victory	_________	Afro
Newcastle Jets	_________	Nadz
Perth Glory	_________	Marky
Sid Knee CF	_________	Nando
Wellington Phoenix	_________	Bam
WS Wanderers	_________	Tino

Match	_________	Transfer	_________	Other
Fixtures/Results	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Youth Rules
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________	Press Conferences
Tactics	_________	Confirmation	_________
	_________	Loans	_________

what was the date for the tm value cut off again lads

13th March

cheers 'fro

Umtiti went upto 56m 9 days after that

Yeah, there were a whole load of updates around the 22nd. We couldn’t work out whether it was the start of a round of updates for all leagues.

So rather than freeze part way through a round of increases or wait for them all to be done, we opted to freeze prices at the end of season 1

Hence why I was so ready to swap him for Koulibaly

BamBam wrote:Hence why I was so ready to swap him for Koulibaly

Tbf I can wait till the end of the season lol, not exactly like I'll be lawyering him - and Umtiti is gonna be like 87 on Fifa 19

#Reset

And tbf to Umtitties he's been the best defender in the league so far.

It was suggested that we would do this season as a FIFA trial and then start a fresh league with new lower rated teams.

can we do championship teams

Hero wrote:And tbf to Umtitties he's been the best defender in the league so far.

It was my defensive system

Afro wrote:It was suggested that we would do this season as a FIFA trial and then start a fresh league with new lower rated teams.

But it's not confirmed that's what we're doing. Surely it goes to a vote nearer the time.

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:can we do championship teams

China.

Marky wrote:

Afro wrote:It was suggested that we would do this season as a FIFA trial and then start a fresh league with new lower rated teams.

But it's not confirmed that's what we're doing. Surely it goes to a vote nearer the time.

Yeah definitely needs to go to a vote. Mentioning it as it is worth bearing in mind we might reboot for anyone thinking of planning for another season

Presume China will be in fifa 19

I’d vote for Championship or a lower league. Depends what is on FIFA19. Really push the boat out and go for building from the bottom.

FIFA league makes that easier as you don’t rely on managers knowing players.

A Fifa League where we all start with an actual rubbish team puts a lot of emphasis on tactics early on.

The only problem is the reliance on transfermarkt.

Marky wrote:A Fifa League where we all start with an actual rubbish team puts a lot of emphasis on tactics early on.

The only problem is the reliance on transfermarkt.

I told Hero this when it was set up. Fifa and transfermarkt are not compatible. In my opinion there should be some sort of cost based on current rating

I honestly don't see the difference between using TM on voting and using TM on FIFA.

On voting you were still able to buy players cheaper than their rating. All that changes is it is a FIFA rating not a personal subjective one.

In fact if anything TM is better with FIFA than a voting league is. On a voting league you were able to big up your players and actually get inflated ratings for your player.

FIFA rates players more accurately and less subjectively, so is in fact more realistic and more compatible with TM than a voting league

I also disagree

The best and most consistent attacking player in the league over the first 7 weeks has been Willian - he's certainly not the highest rated or TM valued

You can see how TM and FIFA are compatible when you look at someone like Umtiti - he started this year's FIFA rated at 82, a decent centre back rating, and priced at £27m on TM

His performances this season have increased his live rating to 84, and he has seen two increases in TM to £36m and now £54m - as Olly said yesterday, he's probably going to be rated 86+ on FIFA 19

This seems like it works quite well to me. There will still be bargains available (Filipe Luis for £9m and an 86 rating spring to mind) but surely that is part of the fun of the game?

Yeah but if you have a quantative system for rating players now, you should exploit that and come up with a system for buying players based on it.

My view is an 80 rated player should cost £10m, an 85 rated should be £30m and a 90 would be £100m. Or whatever it is, I'm sure it wouldn't take long to work it out

It's meant to be fun not a spreadsheet exercise

I've enjoyed picking up bargain players as much as I have signing the big names

You'd also lose some of the deals and discussions that are happening

Ie this player is rated 4 points higher, but the trade off is £10m TM value - which do the managers value higher at this point

I can see your point and where you are coming from Trebs.

Personally, I quite like the fact that it is realistic in the sense that you can get some better players cheaper because they are older. And to an extent older players are less of a benefit on FIFA as their stamina levels drop.

It is something that should be discussed and out to a vote when the time comes, and we go with the consensus approach.

The FIFA ratings as cost is pure and simply daft.
At the beginning of the season Mbappe was an 83, Jonas was also an 83.
Telling me that they should be available at the same price?

We have this discussion about transfermarkt every discussed reboot, and everytime it's the best option for valuing players.............

When I join the reboot I'll immediately get all the 80-something rated players that are available for less than a million.

Go for it. I think it's been proven in the games so far that it won't help you to do so.

With FIFA you really need a balance of ages, stamina etc

Yep that's an option - as it is for everyone else in the league who also has two TPs a week

If we're looking at it as a long term league though, good luck with building on your squad when your max lawyer value is 1.1m

Good luck with your team of pensioners that are gassing and chasing shadows then.

Anyway .. does some fancy running sheep / lemmings

ill set the questions if someone else can do results cos im out at most this PM

Yea go on then I'll take in the answers

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:ill set the questions if someone else can do results cos im out at most this PM

I'lL sEt ThE qUeStIoNs If SoMeOnE eLsE cAn Do ReSuLtS cOs I'm OuT aT MoSt ThIs Pm

Sheep

1. Name me a variety of biscuit
2. Name me a member of England's world cup squad
3. Name me a goalscorer from last weeks Fifa games
4. Name me a Kanye West song
5. Name me a politician Trump has slagged off
6. Name me a bra size
7. Laurel or Yanny
8. Isreal or Palestine
9. Name me an african nation at the world cup
10. Name me a variety of shoe.

Answers to Bambam by 2pm

For 10 are you wanting brand or type?

Type

A costing system will never be manageable based on ratings. I prefer the TM way.

However, and I know next to nothing about Fifa but, could using the coin system work? Does it have to be £££?

Coin wise is difficult to track as it's constantly changing and as the season goes on the prices plummet.

Sent my sheep answers to Hero, will start collating - only got them from Trebs and Hero so far

Just sent mine

Got emm

I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

The hoebag hasn't even bothered sending in his own answers

Marky wrote:I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

WelL mAYbE yOu SHoUld TAke SoMe rESPonSiBiliTY aNd DO thEm yOuRseLF nExT tImE

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

Marky wrote:I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

WelL mAYbE yOu SHoUld TAke SoMe rESPonSiBiliTY aNd DO thEm yOuRseLF nExT tImE

No need to play the blame game. Just have some creativity next time please.

Marky wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:

Marky wrote:I'd just like to say we should ban Olly from Sheep. His questions absolutely suck.

WelL mAYbE yOu SHoUld TAke SoMe rESPonSiBiliTY aNd DO thEm yOuRseLF nExT tImE

No need to play the blame game. Just have some creativity next time please.

I shall take on board your comments.

Questions 7 and 8 are poor showing. The rest are ok I guess.

Someone buy Jorge and Mercado off me plz

Oh also reboot discussion wise, i always enjoyed the draft style (ie. pots of GKs, pots of RBs etc) - i'd be happy to help draw up stuff like that - and you could do it snake draft order, so whoever got 10th pick of GKs got 1st pick of RBs so on and so forth