2018/19 Premier League Thread - Jose’s Difficult Third Year

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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And we start off with news Conte has been sacked by Chelsea, with Sarri and Jorginho's arrivals imminent

[daraghj82]

pogba looked to have turned a corner when ole took over at utd now he's gone back to how he was under jose, ole has to be given a lot of £ if he has any chance of turning things around at utd next season

[wisden]

Its a long term project needs time and money to turn things round...its not a quick fix at United and people need to be patient and realise that

[Duty281]

If United are going to spend their way out of trouble, they have to spend sensibly. Too much money chucked away on utter dross since SAF left. First port of call has to be sorting the defence out - Jones, Smalling and Young (three average PL players) have been at the heart of the United backline for nearly a full decade now, which is astonishing.

[Guest]

The deadwood of Young, Jones and Smalling have recently been given contract extensions. Pretty much shows you that nothing much has changed, and gives their fans, little hope about things changing at United. Some news filtering through, is that Ander Herrera has agreed to join PSG this summer.

Liverpool 5-0 Huddersfield

[Atila]

The deadwood of Young, Jones and Smalling have recently been given contract extensions. Pretty much shows you that nothing much has changed, and gives their fans, little hope about things changing at United. Some news filtering through, is that Ander Herrera has agreed to join PSG this summer.

Liverpool 5-0 Huddersfield

Giving them contract extensions might have been a good business decision. Remember United gave Fellaini a contract extension and it meant that they got a transfer fee when he moved to China. If they let the contracts of Jones and Smalling expire, then they'd get less for them if they got anything at all.

[compelling and rich]

clubs still need a quota of "homegrown" players, so im hoping the contract extensions for those mentioned above are for that reason and are merely squad players to step in when required, for that reason i can just about handle them being part of the team. but none of them should be the starting 11 if we want to be successful again.

shame about herrera, hes one i would have liked to stay and there really isnt many in the current team i would say that about (ddg and rashford only other ones). he gets the ball down and moves it quickly, and presses well (complete opposite of pogba). he's well suited to playing the faster style ole is trying to bring in.

pogba can go for me, he takes seven touches where only one is required. slows attacks down too much, loses possession ridiculous amount and is pretty much null and void when not on the ball. he's got bags of ability but doesnt posses the football intelligence to use it. Liverpool this season have shown that the team and system is much more important than merely talent. a central midfield of milner and henderson have a chance at winning the league.

[Atila]

Yes, Pogba can go for me too, but don't forget Sanchez, he makes Pogba look like value for money.

[compelling and rich]

think sanchez going is a given. just need someone who's willing to pay his wages

[Duty281]

Just when it looks as though Tottenham have their place in the top four secured...they lose at home to West Ham.

[Atila]

think sanchez going is a given. just need someone who's willing to pay his wages

Whoever made the final decision on agreeing to pay Sanchez the amount he's reportedly earning needs to be fired. It was always too much and I'm sure it ruffled the feathers of the other players in the squad.

[Atila]

Just when it looks as though Tottenham have their place in the top four secured...they lose at home to West Ham.

The way United, Arsenal and Chelsea are going, Tottenham can lose their remaining three games and still make top four.

[Duty281]

Could well be true! Arsenal just got smashed 3-0 by Leicester - making it three straight losses for the Arsenal, in all of which they conceded three goals.

[Atila]

DDG again. I'm not saying this with the benefit of hindsight but I was surprised to see DDG picked today. When a striker is out of form you bench him, when a defender is out of form you bench him. For some reason Ole keeps playing DDG. Sergio Romero is not that bad that he can't be played when DDG is out of form and lacking confidence.

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

De Gea is just a massive hype job. He looked the mustard when he was playing the underdog card. United being so rubbish that a couple of saves and then being proclaimed as a great keeper.

De Gea has proven for Spain he’s a no more than average. He’ll never reach the heights of Iker, Buffon or Neuer

[Atila]

1-1. Disappointing result, more so for United than Chelsea. Chelsea only have to win one out of their last two games to keep United out of the top four.

[GSC]

City avoid another banana skin.

The "race" for 4th place seems like it will probably be Chelsea based on a 3 point gap to Arsenal seems insurmountable. Think for Arsenal it will be viewed as a massive missed opportunity to get back into the CL if they cant finish the EL. The defense needs a massive overhaul this summer.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Chelsea's season has to go down as a huge success if they make the top four. 

Last four of the Europa League, return to the Champions League with only two actual permanent signings, both of whom have done alright (I think Jorginho gets extra stick because he's Sarri's man) and are long term signings. 

Arsenal and Man United have both ballsed it up, but it feels like Arsenal are ahead of United in their process, even if they may well finish below them. 

With Arsenal, you feel like the defence being sorted could make them a new side, whilst United have issues everywhere. 

Both should be looking to go beyond Chelsea with the transfer embargo and potential Hazard sale.

[GSC]

Weird thinking that Benitez and Rodgers could effectively send the PL title to Anfield this week

[Atila]

Chelsea's season has to go down as a huge success if they make the top four. 

Last four of the Europa League, return to the Champions League with only two actual permanent signings, both of whom have done alright (I think Jorginho gets extra stick because he's Sarri's man) and are long term signings. 

Arsenal and Man United have both ballsed it up, but it feels like Arsenal are ahead of United in their process, even if they may well finish below them. 

With Arsenal, you feel like the defence being sorted could make them a new side, whilst United have issues everywhere. 

Both should be looking to go beyond Chelsea with the transfer embargo and potential Hazard sale.

The thing about United though is that they have enough money to fix their problems as long as they spend wisely. Arsenal, are in London and that seems to help when recruiting players (so I'm told) but they can't pay as much in transfer fees or in wages like United can.

[Duty281]

Tottenham lose again, 1-0, after having two players sent off. But they'll still likely reach the top four. Since that crazy Champions League game against City, Spurs' last five games in all comps have finished 1-0.

[Atila]

I'm sure that Spurs will be in the top 4 at the end of the season, most likely Chelsea will take the final spot. I think United and Arsenal are out of it.

[Guest]

Toon 2-3 Liverpool
Huddersfield 1-1 Man U - no top 4 for OGS
Chelsea 3-0 Watford

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

We’re back baby

[Atila]

We’re back baby

Who's back?

[Duty281]

Emery and Arsenal booed off.

[Guest]

Yep, top 4 done and dusted before the last day of the season. City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. Relegation decided too. Been a pretty forgetful season for the majority, barring the title duel between City and Liverpool.

[Atila]

Yep, top 4 done and dusted before the last day of the season. City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Spurs. Relegation decided too. Been a pretty forgetful season for the majority, barring the title duel between City and Liverpool.

I thought Arsenal could still make it if Spurs lost and Arsenal won their game by 8?

As for who wins the league, it's like asking me how do I prefer to die, by being stabbed to death or by being shot?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

We’re back baby

Who's back?

The nodge (for a season or two)

[Guest]

What a strike, Vinnie Kompany

Brighton are terrible, so City should be champions.

[Duty281]

Absolute banger. Was looking to be a frustrating night for City until then.

Agreed, Brighton should pose no real obstacle. City should rack up 3 or 4.

[GSC]

Whoever finishes 2nd can consider themselves very unfortunate.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

One of the great Premier League goals, all things considered.

[GSC]

That and the one against United a few years ago, Kompany has some big goals.

Would say Brighton shouldn't pose too great a threat but then QPR helped produce one of the great PL moments.

[Duty281]

Would be a very nice moment for Kompany to sign off with, if he leaves over the summer.

[Duty281]

Early scare for City as they went 1-0 down, but they've turned it around quickly to lead 1-2 and they've surely secured the title.

[Guest]

Great goal by Mahrez, and a great free-kick by Gundogan - 4-1 - Title wrapped up for City

[Duty281]

Beautiful free-kick to seal the season off. Brighton were a threat for the opening 30, but they've done nothing since then.

Thank the Lord Liverpool haven't won the title.

[Nathaniel Jacobs]

City definitely deserving champions, we've won 32 matches. Whereas serial choker Klopp played for draws, Guardiola plays for wins

Hopefully Spurs put Liverpool in their place in the CL final

[Duty281]

United losing at home to Cardiff.

[Atila]

Terrible game for Manchester United. True, there was nothing to play for in regards to qualifying for Europe but they should at least be playing for their pride, the fact that 70 odd thousand fans show up to watch them and more importantly because they're professionals. Still, considering that last season they beat Man City and then the next game lose at home to the bottom club WBA, it shouldn't have come as too much of a surprise that they lose at home to an already relegated side. One point in their last two games to teams already relegated...bad stuff!

As a United fan I haven't enjoyed the season as much as everybody else. The only good thing about this season is that City's title win means that Liverpool's title draught goes on.

I'll be following United's post season, waiting to see to they get rid of and who they bring in. It's going to be interesting.

Congratulations to Manchester City F.C.

[GSC]

Say what you will about Pep but hes raised the bar significantly since entering the PL.

And credit to Liverpool who matched them step for step. Highest quality PL in years

[Atila]

Say what you will about Pep but hes raised the bar significantly since entering the PL.

And credit to Liverpool who matched them step for step. Highest quality PL in years

Mourinho did the same when he first went to Chelsea. One defeat and 95 points, a fantastic season.

[Riggs]

I'd like to say well done congratulations to Man City, keeping the city of Manchester great.

Sorry Man Utd, commiserations, but you simply didn't do what you should've done which was play better.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Say what you will about Pep but hes raised the bar significantly since entering the PL.

And credit to Liverpool who matched them step for step. Highest quality PL in years

Really? I think the quality outside the top 2 has been pretty crap to be honest

[Dolphin Ziggler]

The quality outside the top two isn't horrendous, it just gets trampled by the top two. Three of the teams outside the top two are in European finals, and whilst that doesn't really mean England are giving Europe a kicking, it does show the ability is there. Many of them have been competing on a few fronts too, even United reached the quarters of the Champions League and FA Cup, which gives other teams a chance to take advantage.

[Atila]

The next four teams after City and Liverpool only managed 3 wins from a combined total of their last 20 games. Very poor. Pep may have raised the bar when it comes to actually winning the Prem, but the rest of the Prem hasn't improved.....at least not this season

[GSC]

Say what you will about Pep but hes raised the bar significantly since entering the PL.

And credit to Liverpool who matched them step for step. Highest quality PL in years

Really? I think the quality outside the top 2 has been pretty crap to be honest

I think the level the top 2 have operated at have made the rest look more ordinary than they are. Think of the top 6, only United can really say they're significantly worse than a year earlier

[GSC]

I'd also say the strength down the league has been good this year, Watford in 11th are hardly a bad team. The bottom 4 have been poor, but outside of that I dont think it's a bad PL

[GSC]

Chris Hughton has left Brighton. Gamble that probably had to be made

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

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