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Game uses FIFA 19 version as at 10/01/2019
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Week 10
Grimsby Town v Macclesfield
Lincoln City v Bury
Cheltenham Town v Exeter City
Crewe Alexandra v Newport County
Colchester v Mansfield Town
Crawley Town v MK Dons
Cambridge Utd v Carlisle United
Morecambe v Forest Green

Hardcore Cup 2nd Round:

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Links

https://www.twitch.tv/hero606v2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rzMxThEbVCIiOq_gKOmMqH7WgcsIpYxleuPOWIzg-4Q/edit?usp=sharing

Team	_________	Manager
Bury	_________	$ka
Cambridge Utd	_________	Dolph
Carlisle United	_________	Fluxy
Cheltenham Town	_________	Twist
Colchester	_________	Azzy
Crawley Town	_________	Marky
Crewe Alexandra	_________	Nads
Exeter City	_________	Trebs
Forest Green	_________	TAB
Grimsby Town	_________	Fernando
Lincoln City	_________	Bam
Macclesfield	_________	Hero
Mansfield Town	_________	Rof
MK Dons	_________	Olly
Morecambe	_________	Afro
Newport County	_________	Sodhat

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Matches	_________	Transfers	_________	Other
Fixtures	_________	Lawyers	_________	Rules
Table	_________	Foreigns	_________	Press Conferences
Injuries	_________	Releases	_________
Tactics	_________	Confirmation	_________
Results	_________		_________
Cards	_________		_________

Injuries and lawyers are up

I'll do your injuries and lawyers now

Morecambe Injuries
Aaron Wildig
Felipe Campos
Josef Yarney

Morecambe Lawyers
Nery Leyes (Atlético Tucumán) - £393.75k
Garry Thompson (Morecambe) - £168.75k


Crewe Injuries
Diego Lainez
Moussa Kone
Ben Garratt

Morecambe Injuries
Aaron Wildig
Felipe Campos
Josef Yarney

Morecambe Lawyers
Nery Leyes (Atlético Tucumán) - £393.75k
Garry Thompson (Morecambe) - £168.75k


Crewe Injuries
Diego Lainez
Moussa Kone
Ben Garratt

Thanks TAB

I round the lawyers to the nearest thousand btw

No worries, yeah wasn't quite sure how you did it

Morecambe Lawyers
Nery Leyes (Atlético Tucumán) - £394k
Garry Thompson (Morecambe) - £169k

Amended

Take a boo wrote:No worries, yeah wasn't quite sure how you did it

Morecambe Lawyers
Nery Leyes (Atlético Tucumán) - £394k
Garry Thompson (Morecambe) - £169k

Amended

Sorry, I also think the values are too high. Lawyers are +10%, so they should be £347k and £149k respectively. No need to repost, I'll put the correct amount on when I stick it on the lawyers page

Sorry added 25% for some reason

I'll stick to the day job

Bury
Callum Styles
Elvis Bwomono
Thibault Vlietinck


No, those won't do. Try again please.

Anyone selling a keeper?

I would sell Barry Roche for his TM value, but can't do it this week otherwise I would be short myself.

I could sell you Logan now I’ve got a keeper in, 64 rated would be after his TM value 180k

I can sell a goalie azzy

Two 69 rated players in for a combined £158k. #BargainHunting

(They just both happen to be well over 30 )

#Dadsarmy

Think I’ll need to make a new list every week at this rate, all my targets being snapped up

Still have a decent number on my list who haven't been snapped up.

Not sure whether that is a good thing or a bad sign.

Still cross with Bam about Nhamoinesu

Anyone have a player they're wishing to release for 0 that they instead want to sell to me for a nominal 5k fee?

Have you seen my team's performance so far Afro, we need all the help we can get

Kept promising to show what everyone's team rating is so here goes. This is what it was for last week, it is first XI from last week only so bear in mind any injuries you had.
For the purpose of the scoring in runs in order of attack>midfield>defence

Bury 68 65 64
Cambridge 66 65 65
Carlisle 64 64 66
Cheltenham 65 66 64
Colchester 67 65 66
Crawley 66 66 66
Crewe 66 64 61
Exeter 65 66 66
Forest Green 70 66 66
Grimsby 70 64 64
Lincoln 66 65 66
Macclesfield 66 65 63
Mansfield 68 67 67
MK Dons 67 67 66
Morecambe 65 62 67
Newport 61 61 60

Harrison Dunk and Liam O'Neil probably gonna be released if anyone is desperate for a player or two

Thanks Hero, some interesting observations there. Obviously injuries need to be factored in but the fact that Macclesfield were almost on par with Lincoln shows how quickly the landscape can change with some savvy transfers.

On a separate note Newport appear in danger of falling away given their recent lack of transfer activity...

TAB - just updating the budget tracker, think you've overvalued Fabien Robert.

You've released him for 338k, which would mean a TM value of 450k, but his true value is 225k on TM, so a release fee of 169k

Please could you update and amend / cancel any transfers that would be affected

I had him at 450k too but that's just because my value was taken from what was on the page! I'm doing the odd spot check now which is how I picked up on this

Be interesting to see the ratings from the cup games, given there are no injuries and people will presumably field what they think is their strongest XI.

For Newport, I think we need to try and recruit a new manager, so if anyone can find one, that would be great.

BamBam wrote:TAB - just updating the budget tracker, think you've overvalued Fabien Robert.

You've released him for 338k, which would mean a TM value of 450k, but his true value is 225k on TM, so a release fee of 169k

Please could you update and amend / cancel any transfers that would be affected

I had him at 450k too but that's just because my value was taken from what was on the page! I'm doing the odd spot check now which is how I picked up on this

Cheers Bam, I'll cancel his release and release a different 450k player instead to save all the hassle

Take a boo wrote:

BamBam wrote:TAB - just updating the budget tracker, think you've overvalued Fabien Robert.

You've released him for 338k, which would mean a TM value of 450k, but his true value is 225k on TM, so a release fee of 169k

Please could you update and amend / cancel any transfers that would be affected

I had him at 450k too but that's just because my value was taken from what was on the page! I'm doing the odd spot check now which is how I picked up on this

Cheers Bam, I'll cancel his release and release a different 450k player instead to save all the hassle

Actually scrap that, realised it doesn't affect any of my transfers so I'll just amend my remaining budget accordingly.

I’ve not overly been going for high end 60s players either, perhaps swayed a little towards that end purely due to the clamour of others to target high end but main caveat for me if potential price upgrades further down the line. Purchase of Walukiewicz this week an example of a player that in game won’t have much of an impact but with big clubs in RL circling around him then hopefully we gains a big price rise on TM prior to Season 2.

On that note though and it’s a question I’ve been asked in private, sort of the reverse of what’s already happened… Players that are on TM but aren’t on FIFA, can they be purchased? Obviously they can’t play in games as there isn’t a fifa version of them but can someone add them to their squad (susceptible to injury draws etc) and leave them there to potentially gain value on TM for a following season like a little ISA.

No worries TAB, cheers

Hero - as one of those who has mentioned this, I can't think of any reason why not. You'd be less likely to accept a lawyer on one of these players, so its kind of swings and roundabouts really

I think the only only qualm I have with it is when squad numbers start getting low and 3 injuries to players suddenly results in a manager being unable to field a full bench of subs. It's easier to see that you need a min squad size of 21 (starting 11, 7 subs & 3 injuries), drop in a couple of non FIFA players and it gets a bit blurry.

So in that sense you can have up to 4 non FIFA players of your squad of 25? I think that works, its up to the manager whether they're confident enough of a return next season to go with a 21 man squad with no room for flexibility

Afro wrote:Be interesting to see the ratings from the cup games, given there are no injuries and people will presumably field what they think is their strongest XI.

For Newport, I think we need to try and recruit a new manager, so if anyone can find one, that would be great.

SODDY WHERE ARE YOU

If only one club had an abundance of managers...

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:If only one club had an abundance of managers...

It's a real dilly of a pickle.

Tactics sent, come at me Nando.

Just realised I am playing you Bam, time to get my first W of the season!

Hero wrote:I’ve not overly been going for high end 60s players either, perhaps swayed a little towards that end purely due to the clamour of others to target high end but main caveat for me if potential price upgrades further down the line. Purchase of Walukiewicz this week an example of a player that in game won’t have much of an impact but with big clubs in RL circling around him then hopefully we gains a big price rise on TM prior to Season 2.

On that note though and it’s a question I’ve been asked in private, sort of the reverse of what’s already happened… Players that are on TM but aren’t on FIFA, can they be purchased? Obviously they can’t play in games as there isn’t a fifa version of them but can someone add them to their squad (susceptible to injury draws etc) and leave them there to potentially gain value on TM for a following season like a little ISA.

I'm against it. Why would you do it other than to either try and get around the injuries or to make future bucks. Neither of which I think should be encouraged

Fluxy wrote:Just realised I am playing you Bam, time to get my first W of the season!

Given my current form, entirely possible

I'll do tactics today hopefully

Afro wrote:

Hero wrote:I’ve not overly been going for high end 60s players either, perhaps swayed a little towards that end purely due to the clamour of others to target high end but main caveat for me if potential price upgrades further down the line. Purchase of Walukiewicz this week an example of a player that in game won’t have much of an impact but with big clubs in RL circling around him then hopefully we gains a big price rise on TM prior to Season 2.

On that note though and it’s a question I’ve been asked in private, sort of the reverse of what’s already happened… Players that are on TM but aren’t on FIFA, can they be purchased? Obviously they can’t play in games as there isn’t a fifa version of them but can someone add them to their squad (susceptible to injury draws etc) and leave them there to potentially gain value on TM for a following season like a little ISA.

I'm against it. Why would you do it other than to either try and get around the injuries or to make future bucks. Neither of which I think should be encouraged

Is that any different to signing say, Angel Gomes this season? With injuries it arguably exposes you more, as if you end up with 3 of your FIFA players injured you may not have the squad options to cope if you've bought 3 or 4 non FIFA players

BamBam wrote:

Afro wrote:

Hero wrote:I’ve not overly been going for high end 60s players either, perhaps swayed a little towards that end purely due to the clamour of others to target high end but main caveat for me if potential price upgrades further down the line. Purchase of Walukiewicz this week an example of a player that in game won’t have much of an impact but with big clubs in RL circling around him then hopefully we gains a big price rise on TM prior to Season 2.

On that note though and it’s a question I’ve been asked in private, sort of the reverse of what’s already happened… Players that are on TM but aren’t on FIFA, can they be purchased? Obviously they can’t play in games as there isn’t a fifa version of them but can someone add them to their squad (susceptible to injury draws etc) and leave them there to potentially gain value on TM for a following season like a little ISA.

I'm against it. Why would you do it other than to either try and get around the injuries or to make future bucks. Neither of which I think should be encouraged

Is that any different to signing say, Angel Gomes this season? With injuries it arguably exposes you more, as if you end up with 3 of your FIFA players injured you may not have the squad options to cope if you've bought 3 or 4 non FIFA players

Yes, because at least you could play Angel Gomes. Buying someone in the knowledge that you actually can't play them is different IMO

What about all the times someone bought Vinicius Jr in the old leagues .. all with the knowledge that they would never play him, but the anticipation of the TM increase

I just don't see why not being able to play someone with the expectation of a TM increase is any different to buying kids who can play but also are expected to get a TM increase

I think that's up to the individual manager whether they want to waste valuable squad places and budget on these players

Agree with Bam in that I don't see how it gets around injuries, if anything it makes it worse for the person who's done it.

BamBam wrote:What about all the times someone bought Vinicius Jr in the old leagues .. all with the knowledge that they would never play him, but the anticipation of the TM increase

I just don't see why not being able to play someone with the expectation of a TM increase is any different to buying kids who can play but also are expected to get a TM increase

I think that's up to the individual manager whether they want to waste valuable squad places and budget on these players

But we had the proviso with the youth players like that, that they had to play twice to get a value. So even in that scenario we were trying to dampen the pure stock brokering. In this scenario, we are essentially doing the same without the two game proviso

Hero wrote:Agree with Bam in that I don't see how it gets around injuries, if anything it makes it worse for the person who's done it.

Actually you are right on this, I was wrong having thought about it

Afro wrote:

BamBam wrote:What about all the times someone bought Vinicius Jr in the old leagues .. all with the knowledge that they would never play him, but the anticipation of the TM increase

I just don't see why not being able to play someone with the expectation of a TM increase is any different to buying kids who can play but also are expected to get a TM increase

I think that's up to the individual manager whether they want to waste valuable squad places and budget on these players

But we had the proviso with the youth players like that, that they had to play twice to get a value. So even in that scenario we were trying to dampen the pure stock brokering. In this scenario, we are essentially doing the same without the two game proviso

Either way, it needs to be done with a minimum of 21 playable players in the squad

With the youth squad though they weren't taking up a place in what's already a small squad until you wished them to. They could stay for months on end in the youth team and only when they then had a TM price increase did people bother to move them over.
In this people sacrifice a squad slot in effect to gamble on a player improving in cash value.

Hero wrote:With the youth squad though they weren't taking up a place in what's already a small squad until you wished them to. They could stay for months on end in the youth team and only when they then had a TM price increase did people bother to move them over.
In this people sacrifice a squad slot in effect to gamble on a player improving in cash value.

Personally I'd say it would be madness for any squad to do it this early into a season, me buying the Polish lad was enough of a gamble but at least is on FIFA and is okay as a sub with a 60 rating, with clubs circling around him if I left it longer then TM might have given him a price hike and then there would no point in buying him.

I'm happy to go with the majority.

Even though I have usually done well from it in the last, I'm always against the stock brokering, having signed players purely on the hope of a big future increase.

With players that could play, it was never clear cut that a player is purely there for the profit potential. With a player that can't, it is clear cut and shouldn't be what the game is about.

You can still do it with many players who are in the game, so I don't see the need to extend it to players who can't play, other than to promote stock brokering further

Agree it would be madness to go for it this early, but just want to clarify for later in the season when my useless bunch may be out of contention ..

Also happy to go with the majority on this, so just need others to provide an opinion

Don’t see anything wrong with it, only shooting yourself in the foot. Plenty of young players with poor ratings that folk can sign with the idea of stock brokering that are on Fifa. And if folk get to the point of having 21 good players anyway then it makes sense to go for players whose value will go up

I’ve only signed 3 players purely on rating and who I don’t think will go up in value on TM as it is anyway.

Seems like I am very much in a minority. Where's Trebs when you need him?