6 Nations - England v France

by **LondonTiger** Mon 04 Feb 2019, 11:13 am

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Date: Sunday 10th February 2019
Time: 15:00 GMT
Location: Twickenham Stadium
Media Coverage: ITV, BBC (highlights only), Radio 5Live

Officials

Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 1: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant 2: Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)

Teams

England

15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 26 caps), 14 Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks, 43 caps), 13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps), 12 Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps), 11 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 41 caps), 10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 66 caps) (c), 9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 81 caps), 1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 52 caps), 2 Jamie George (Saracens, 33 caps), 3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 18 caps), 4 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 69 caps), 5 George Kruis (Saracens, 28 caps), 6 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 9 caps), 7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 6 caps), 8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 37 caps).

16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 8 caps), 17 Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), 18 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 82 caps), 19 Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 54 caps), 20 Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 19 caps), 21 Dan Robson (Wasps, uncapped), 22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 52 caps), 23 Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 30 caps).

France

15. Yoann Huget
14. Damian Penaud
13. Mathieu Bastareaud
12. Geoffrey Doumayrou
11. Gaël Fickou
10. Camille Lopez
9. Morgan Parra
1. Jefferson Poirot
2. Guilhem Guirado
3. Demba Bamba
4. Sébastien Vahaamahina
5. Félix Lambey
6. Yacouba Camara
7. Arthur Iturria
8. Louis Picamoles

Replacements
16. Pierre Bourgarit
17. Dany Priso
18. Dorian Aldegheri
19. Paul Willemse
20. Gregory Alldritt
21. Antoine Dupont
22. Romain Ntamack
23. Thomas Ramos

by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:17 pm

Sorry but Sinkler was utterly stupid there.

That costs games and world cup games if it's a yellow

by king_carlos Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:17 pm

Incredibly stupid by Sinckler.

by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

I like Sinckler, good player and in your face, doesn’t take it over the line though like now.

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

What a naughty boy Sinckler!

by EnglishReign Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

Well said Nige

by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:18 pm

@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:19 pm

Kyle Sinckler has this stupid streak in him. Not the first time, needs to curb it, because he's a fine player. Nige should have binned him.

by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:19 pm

More clear cut yellow for Sinkler. Not a goid day at the office for owens.

by **RDW** Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:19 pm

Patronising slap on the head? Talking pish Dellaglio! It was a pretty hefty slap and grab. Lucky not to get a yellow.

So completely needless by Sinkler though!

by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:20 pm

Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt. Fairly easy to see Ashton miss the kick forward before he is tackled on the replay.

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:20 pm

Try number 6?

by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:21 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt.

Did though. Who cares anyway, this is an absolute demolition.

I do agree that's stupid and should be a yellow for Sinckler though.

by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:21 pm

Superb awareness from Ben Youngs.

by king_carlos Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

RDW wrote:Patronising slap on the head? Talking pish Dellaglio! It was a pretty hefty slap and grab. Lucky not to get a yellow.

So completely needless by Sinkler though!

In a different match that is a yellow that could cost the game.

Sinckler is a lucky boy in several ways.

by **Rugby Fan** Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

Feels like 10 minutes left but it's still 25 to go

by robbo277 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:22 pm

Silly by Sinckler, but I think just a penalty was the right call.

by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:23 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt.
Did though. Who cares anyway, this is an absolute demolition.

I do agree that's stupid and should be a yellow for Sinckler though.

Scott he missed the kick then was tackled.

by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:23 pm

Sinckler needs to learn or stop getting picked ...

by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Crikey, six tries! Wish the Welsh game was next week.

by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Balances out - the French 3 could have gone off for 10 minutes for that high tackle

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Yep, like Sinckler but he needs to control himself.

by robbo277 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:24 pm

Heaf wrote:Sinckler needs to learn or stop getting picked ...

He's still by far and away our best tight head.

by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:25 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:
Scottrf wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
Scottrf wrote:@collapse, that happened after he was tackled, you can’t use the play after the offence to judge the penalty.

No it didnt.
Did though. Who cares anyway, this is an absolute demolition.

I do agree that's stupid and should be a yellow for Sinckler though.

Scott he missed the kick then was tackled.

Yes but he didn't overrun it until he was tackled.

by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

Ok we'll agree to disagree.

If that was given against England I'd be pretty peeved...

by No9 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:26 pm

robbo277 wrote:
Heaf wrote:Sinckler needs to learn or stop getting picked ...

He's still by far and away our best tight head.

Maybe but no good if he's sitting on the naught step ...

by EnglishReign Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:27 pm

It was clearly off the French fist

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:28 pm

Great by Lawes

by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:29 pm

Great hit by Lawes.

by No9 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:29 pm

EnglishReign wrote:It was clearly off the French fist

I looked again, and played in slow time... clearly off the English wrist... no off French player at all...

by king_carlos Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

This is getting scrappier and scrappier now. A few silly moments creeping in around the rucks as players get frustrated.

by EnglishReign Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

Still 20 to go haha

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:30 pm

Fabulous scrum.

by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today

by king_carlos Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

stub wrote:Fabulous scrum.

There's what Moon and Cole offer...

by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:31 pm

For what it's worth, England's largest victory margin over France is 37 points (in 1911!).

by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today

If the French coach had reffed England would still be well ahead.

by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

Line-out not great today ...

by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Use both eyes. The holding back is more debatable, but with both players on the ground it isn't clear. The officials all saw it though

by No9 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:32 pm

That TMO call was as bad as the one against Wales last year. There’s no excuse with the technology they have...when you can see it’s easily on a sky box.. Shocked

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:33 pm

Well said Scott!

by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:35 pm

Scottrf wrote:
Collapse2005 wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today
If the French coach had reffed England would still be well ahead.

Exactly so England dont really need the help

by No 7&1/2 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:36 pm

No Robson again.

Shame Owens didn't have a look at the punch thrown at Farrell admittedly but again most decisions have been correct.

by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:36 pm

No 7&1/2 wrote:No Robson again.

Yeah this is one of the major problems I've had with Jones. So reliant on Youngs.

by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:37 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Owens has been dreadful today

Worse than Ireland’s favourite son Barnes?

by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:38 pm

That’s right 7.5,.

by **LondonTiger** Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:38 pm

Jones should have brought Robson on by now

by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:38 pm

No9 wrote:That TMO call was as bad as the one against Wales last year. There’s no excuse with the technology they have...when you can see it’s easily on a sky box..

A good point here. I felt Wales were let down three times last year with incorrect TMO calls, and two already this year.

by No9 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:39 pm

lostinwales wrote:
No9 wrote:Wrong call there by TMO and Nigel. Obvious knock on... NOT off French hand....

Not to mention the foul holding the back the French players arm..

Not really going to make a difference though...

Use both eyes. The holding back is more debatable, but with both players on the ground it isn't clear. The officials all saw it though

Suggest you OPEN your eyes.. knock on... but not going to change anything..

by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:39 pm

mikey_dragon wrote:
No9 wrote:That TMO call was as bad as the one against Wales last year. There’s no excuse with the technology they have...when you can see it’s easily on a sky box..

A good point here. I felt Wales were let down three times last year with incorrect TMO calls, and two already this year.

And that's definitely the important point to make on an England vs France thread.

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