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Post by LondonTiger Mon 04 Feb 2019, 11:13 am

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Date: Sunday 10th February 2019
Time: 15:00 GMT
Location: Twickenham Stadium
Media Coverage: ITV, BBC (highlights only), Radio 5Live


Officials

Referee: Nigel Owens (Wales)
Assistant 1: Andrew Brace (Ireland)
Assistant 2: Brendon Pickerill (New Zealand)
TMO: Glenn Newman (New Zealand)



Teams


England

15 Elliot Daly (Wasps, 26 caps), 14 Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks, 43 caps), 13 Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 18 caps), 12 Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 28 caps), 11 Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 41 caps), 10 Owen Farrell (Saracens, 66 caps) (c), 9 Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 81 caps), 1 Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 52 caps), 2 Jamie George (Saracens, 33 caps), 3 Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 18 caps), 4 Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 69 caps), 5 George Kruis (Saracens, 28 caps), 6 Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons, 9 caps), 7 Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 6 caps), 8 Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 37 caps).

16 Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 8 caps), 17 Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs, 4 caps), 18 Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 82 caps), 19 Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 54 caps), 20 Nathan Hughes (Wasps, 19 caps), 21 Dan Robson (Wasps, uncapped), 22 George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 52 caps), 23 Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 30 caps).





France

15. Yoann Huget
14. Damian Penaud
13. Mathieu Bastareaud
12. Geoffrey Doumayrou
11. Gaël Fickou
10. Camille Lopez
9. Morgan Parra
1. Jefferson Poirot
2. Guilhem Guirado
3. Demba Bamba
4. Sébastien Vahaamahina
5. Félix Lambey
6. Yacouba Camara
7. Arthur Iturria
8. Louis Picamoles

Replacements
16. Pierre Bourgarit
17. Dany Priso
18. Dorian Aldegheri
19. Paul Willemse
20. Gregory Alldritt
21. Antoine Dupont
22. Romain Ntamack
23. Thomas Ramos


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Post by Guest Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:41 pm

miaow wrote:France just flat out refusing the defend their backfield.

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Post by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:41 pm

Always thought Sinckler would be better at scrum half.

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:42 pm

Class step

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:42 pm

Ashton has been really good I have to say.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:43 pm

Another sharp finish. French full-back nowhere to be seen.

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:43 pm

It could all go horribly wrong, but if England keep up at the current rate it will be 50+ points

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:44 pm

France seem to have no-one at home at the back ...

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:44 pm

Is Slade starting to get it at this level? Is he making that 13 shirt his?

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:45 pm

What a first half that was 4 tries to 1. more of the same please in the second half.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:45 pm

What a first half that was 4 tries to 1. more of the same please in the second half.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:47 pm

Who would have thought playing a winger at full back, two centres on the wings and a prop at outside centre wasn't a good idea?

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:47 pm

Heaf wrote:France seem to have no-one at home at the back ...
They seem to be so scared of our power runners going through them that they are shoving everyone up and in, leaving so much space behind and wide.

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Post by Guest Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:47 pm

Could easily be another 30 in the second half for England.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:50 pm

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Heaf wrote:France seem to have no-one at home at the back ...
They seem to be so scared of our power runners going through them that they are shoving everyone up and in, leaving so much space behind and wide.

I'd like to see France drop someone back to field our kicks. I'd be interested to see if this England side would be able to adapt on the fly and keep the ball in hand, and whether we could do damage playing in that way.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:51 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:All the talk of Johnny...but that French winger who's just scored has impressed alot

Well he's actually a13. France are playing 2 centres on the wings.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:52 pm

miaow wrote:Could easily be another 30 in the second half for England.

I hope ...

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Post by tigertattie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:52 pm

Firstly, there’s no doubt that England are playing well. They are mixing up their play with direct power and crafty kicking

France are on another level of ridiculous this week. They can’t defend high balls, chips or grubbers.

I can see this ending with England on +50
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:54 pm

Outstanding half of rugby. We just seem to keep making the right choices....when did we become an intelligent side???

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Post by Exiledinborders Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:56 pm

I have been impressed with Ashton. He has always been great at spotting space and now he is playing in a team that is looking to do just that.

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Post by No9 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:56 pm

Wales have to beat England next and go on to take a Slam.... if they don’t, it will be an English Grand Slam this year. If it goes down to points, it’s England’s title...

... basically Wales have to get a Slam or its England’s title this year.

And the way Wales have played so far, even as a loyal Welshman I cant see us beating this English side Crying or Very sad

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:56 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Outstanding half of rugby. We just seem to keep making the right choices....when did we become an intelligent side???

And so often it is Farrell who is at the middle of it. Doesn't make sense...

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:57 pm

Exiledinborders wrote:I have been impressed with Ashton. He has always been great at spotting space and now he is playing in a team that is looking to do just that.

What impresses me is how much work he is doing off the ball.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:58 pm

Huget really invisible now ...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:58 pm

tigertattie wrote:Firstly, there’s no doubt that England are playing well. They are mixing up their play with direct power and crafty kicking  

France are on another level of ridiculous this week. They can’t defend high balls, chips or grubbers.

I can see this ending with England on +50

Leaving Huget and the midget Parra at the back on their own against a barrage of contestable kicks is not a great tactical decision. The phase after a kick the French wings are staying in the line and with Parra and Huget caught up in the contest it leaves nobody home.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 3:59 pm

Jonny May's first half hattrick takes him to 22 England tries in 42 appearances. He had 10 at the end of 2017.

22 tries takes him into 7th ahead of Cueto and Ashton (both 20) and level with Lewsey on the England all time top try scorers list.

With 4 this tournament in the first 1.5 games and Italy still to come, May could overhaul Stockdale's 7 tries scored in last year's tournament as the moden record. The most scored in any tournament was 8 - last achieved in 1925.

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:00 pm

Great, May in my fantasy team. As for England, well they look pretty good again. Should we be worried? Very Happy

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:01 pm

First chance missed by England

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:01 pm

Manu's handling has been rubbish

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:04 pm

I thought ashton should have caught that.

This would have been a good game for Elis Genge to come on.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:06 pm

Daft quick throw in

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Post by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:07 pm

Bit of sloppiness creeping in now. But that's to be expected with such a big lead.

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:09 pm

Nice hash on Currys head.

So Hughes and Billy in the back row.

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:10 pm

Well done Nige for having the bottle to do that ...

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Post by mikey_dragon Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:12 pm

Well France showed some flashes of brilliance there, offloads, etc; before they went and dropped it. Then of course there’s a potential penalty try, France are horrific.

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:12 pm

I don't think that should have been a penalty try....

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:13 pm

Let off for Ashton there haha

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:13 pm

Terrible call by Owens. Not a penalty try and not a yellow.

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Post by Duty281 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

Penalty try seems a bit harsh there. The ball was behind Ashton and he still had significant ground to make.

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Post by Scottrf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

Definite penalty try, can’t tackle without the ball and he was clear a few metres in front of the try line. If you dont think he’s going to score then let him make the mistake. I think he might have messed it up but you can’t tackle before he has it.


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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

Ashton may not have scored so stupid of the French player to give Nige the decision to make ...

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Post by No 7&1/2 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

Pen try is debatable. Had to be yellow either way though. Ashton has never scored against France apparently.

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Post by Geordie Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

He had missed kicked it...ie he didnt kick it before hed been tackled.

No penalty try.

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Post by stub Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:14 pm

Great positional kicking by Farrell today.

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Post by EnglishReign Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:15 pm

Give Robson some game time, Eddie

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Post by Collapse2005 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:16 pm

Scottrf wrote:Definite penalty try, can’t tackle without the ball and he was clear a few metres in front of the try line. If you dont think he’s going to score then let him make the mistake.

Ashton went to kick the ball on, missed it, over ran the ball and then got tackled off the ball. Wasnt going to score, definitely not a penalty try. Terrible decision.

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Post by robbo277 Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:16 pm

Penalty and yellow card for me. It's not probably that Ashton would have scored, or not certain enough for a penalty try in my mind. He may not have gathered it, he may have overran it.

But it's a penalty to deny a try scoring chance and deserved a yellow card.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:16 pm

I think that was a stupid retake my Johnny May. England cannot afford to get complacent just because they have a handy lead.

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Post by king_carlos Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:16 pm

I wonder if Jones will look at trying a Ford-Farrell-Manu axis here or if he will take Farrell off and see how the side play without him.

Definitely a game to get Robson on either way. The reserve 9 position needs sorting for this side.

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Post by lostinwales Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:17 pm

I don't think that Ashton would have scored, but the tackle without the ball means it is an easy decision

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Post by Heaf Sun 10 Feb 2019, 4:17 pm

What a plank - why do that?

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