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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 13 May 2019, 9:04 am

First topic message reminder :

2019/20 Barclays season thread

Start off by asking how long you think Ole will last at the wheel? For me, sacked by February 2020
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Post by Soul Requiem Sun 11 Aug 2019, 6:53 pm

It's going to be a long season for Chelsea, taken apart by a Man United team that are short of quality themselves.

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Post by Atila Sun 11 Aug 2019, 7:10 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:It's going to be a long season for Chelsea, taken apart by a Man United team that are short of quality themselves.
I think this season is going to be tough for Chelsea too.

I'm not just going by todays result, but I often hear or read people comments saying that United are in a "mess". For me, Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham are not much better than United. They all slumped badly towards the end of last season.


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Post by Guest Sun 11 Aug 2019, 7:54 pm

As the pundits said, nothing much has changed over the summer, it’s City & Liverpool......and then the rest.

As for Chelsea, bit of an over-reaction. Looked decent for an hour, but missing Kante, Rudiger, Willian, RLC and Hudson-Odoi, was always going to make Lampard’s task much harder. Going to need patience.

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Post by GSC Sun 11 Aug 2019, 8:13 pm

young Chelsea side taught a bit of a lesson. think they'll be ok when they settle
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Post by JDizzle Sun 11 Aug 2019, 8:44 pm

Chelsea were the better side in the first half. Hit the woodwork twice and pressed well. Individual mistakes cost them for the first two goals and they went too pieces a bit after that - lacked leadership out there - and looked there for the taking on the counter.

Kante will help tighten things up hopefully, but it’s going to be a learning curve for the younger players and manager. Not overly disheartened.

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Post by dyrewolfe Wed 14 Aug 2019, 9:09 am

So...Chelsea get slapped with a transfer ban, but Man City get a way with a tap on the wrist (£300k fine) for doing pretty much the same thing.

Anyone want to try and explain that?
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Post by Guest Wed 14 Aug 2019, 9:25 am

A short version would be that Chelsea appealed the decision, and took it to the court of arbitration, whereas City accepted their wrongdoing from the start, and hence were given a lenient punishment.

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Aug 2019, 10:42 am

Wasnt Citys thing playing players in a trial game they shouldn't have.
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Post by compelling and rich Wed 14 Aug 2019, 11:22 am

city well known for tapping up young players, its fairly common to her stories of it round here. but when they are English the rules are different than poaching foreign players

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Aug 2019, 11:46 am

to be honest I would imagine it's a pretty murky situation for big clubs all around the world. Liverpool had something similar a couple of years ago
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 14 Aug 2019, 12:34 pm

compelling and rich wrote:city well known for tapping up young players, its fairly common to her stories of it round here. but when they are English the rules are different than poaching foreign players

There’s no high ground with it, they’re definitely not the only Manchester club known for it

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 18 Aug 2019, 9:41 pm

Top very comfortable win for the nodge yesterday, really should’ve been more than 3 scored, albeit Newcastle were very very poor.

Chelsea at home next week another “free” hit so to speak. Based on their first two games if we play like we did yesterday we could nab something...nevertheless good to get off the mark
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Post by GSC Sun 25 Aug 2019, 6:19 pm

from everything I've seen VAR change, that standing is insanity
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Post by Duty281 Sun 25 Aug 2019, 6:23 pm

It was the definition of 'stonewall'. VAR only seems to come up if someone's had the ball smashed into their arm from six inches away, or if someone's little finger has strayed offside just before a goal is scored.

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Post by compelling and rich Sat 31 Aug 2019, 10:37 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49529591

this tickled me, not very bright is romelu

Lukaku said: "He (Neville) can talk about my fitness but he should never say anything about my professionalism

theres me thinking his profession required him to be as fit as possible


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Post by GSC Sat 31 Aug 2019, 2:26 pm

why we shouldn't overreact to the first round of games I guess
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Post by Guest Sat 31 Aug 2019, 4:55 pm

Couldn’t see United or Chelsea in the top 4 before the start of the season, and sure as hell don’t see them making it now. Just way off.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Sun 01 Sep 2019, 6:15 am

Weird uses of VAR today. I was an advocate, but I've seen a couple of decisions today that I don't understand.

A blatant pen missed in the West Ham game, whatever the hell that mess of refereeing was in the Palace/Villa game and a bit of a question over that Tielemans challenge on Wilson.

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Post by westisbest Sun 01 Sep 2019, 1:31 pm

Was at Palace villa yesterday. Kevin Friend was poor all game.
Decision to disallow our goal was wrong.
By no means did we deserve to win the game, but that decision wa hard to take.

I’m not a big fan of VAR and think it will ruin the game.

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Post by Atila Mon 02 Sep 2019, 6:03 am

I know it's very early in the season but it's funny to me to see Man United criticized on forums and told that their top four hopes are already hanging in the balance. Spurs meanwhile, who have an identical win, loss, draw record to United aren't held to the same standard. They seem to escape criticism.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 02 Sep 2019, 7:26 am

Atila wrote:I know it's very early in the season but it's funny to me to see Man United criticized on forums and told that their top four hopes are already hanging in the balance. Spurs meanwhile, who have an identical win, loss, draw record to United aren't held to the same standard. They seem to escape criticism.

I'd suggest that's because for the past 4/5 years Spurs have been well run, more successful, have a better squad and have a better manager...

And tbf I am seeing plenty of Spurs criticism online. Probably a bit overboard
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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 02 Sep 2019, 12:07 pm

Spurs have dropped points to City and Arsenal, as well as the Toon.Man United have draws with Wolves, Southampton and a defeat at home to Palace.

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Post by dyrewolfe Mon 02 Sep 2019, 2:21 pm

A bit premature I know, but its already looking like another 2-horse race between City and Liverpool. Rolling Eyes
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Post by Atila Mon 02 Sep 2019, 2:57 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Atila wrote:I know it's very early in the season but it's funny to me to see Man United criticized on forums and told that their top four hopes are already hanging in the balance. Spurs meanwhile, who have an identical win, loss, draw record to United aren't held to the same standard. They seem to escape criticism.

I'd suggest that's because for the past 4/5 years Spurs have been well run, more successful, have a better squad and have a better manager...

And tbf I am seeing plenty of Spurs criticism online. Probably a bit overboard
Things may be on the up for Spurs but they haven't been more successful than United in the last 4/5 years. United, Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup. Spurs nothing.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 02 Sep 2019, 3:04 pm

Atila wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Atila wrote:I know it's very early in the season but it's funny to me to see Man United criticized on forums and told that their top four hopes are already hanging in the balance. Spurs meanwhile, who have an identical win, loss, draw record to United aren't held to the same standard. They seem to escape criticism.

I'd suggest that's because for the past 4/5 years Spurs have been well run, more successful, have a better squad and have a better manager...

And tbf I am seeing plenty of Spurs criticism online. Probably a bit overboard
Things may be on the up for Spurs but they haven't been more successful than United in the last 4/5 years. United, Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup. Spurs nothing.

Making the final of the Champions League far outweighs beating some farmers to the Europa and reserves to the mickey mouse cups
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Post by Atila Mon 02 Sep 2019, 3:15 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Atila wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Atila wrote:I know it's very early in the season but it's funny to me to see Man United criticized on forums and told that their top four hopes are already hanging in the balance. Spurs meanwhile, who have an identical win, loss, draw record to United aren't held to the same standard. They seem to escape criticism.

I'd suggest that's because for the past 4/5 years Spurs have been well run, more successful, have a better squad and have a better manager...

And tbf I am seeing plenty of Spurs criticism online. Probably a bit overboard
Things may be on the up for Spurs but they haven't been more successful than United in the last 4/5 years. United, Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup. Spurs nothing.

Making the final of the Champions League far outweighs beating some farmers to the Europa and reserves to the mickey mouse cups
Not for me it doesn't.

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Post by Beer Mon 02 Sep 2019, 3:15 pm

Atila wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Atila wrote:I know it's very early in the season but it's funny to me to see Man United criticized on forums and told that their top four hopes are already hanging in the balance. Spurs meanwhile, who have an identical win, loss, draw record to United aren't held to the same standard. They seem to escape criticism.

I'd suggest that's because for the past 4/5 years Spurs have been well run, more successful, have a better squad and have a better manager...

And tbf I am seeing plenty of Spurs criticism online. Probably a bit overboard
Things may be on the up for Spurs but they haven't been more successful than United in the last 4/5 years. United, Europa League, FA Cup and League Cup. Spurs nothing.

They won the Audi Cup.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 02 Sep 2019, 5:41 pm

cant understand why anyone would say that getting to a final in a cup competition is better than actually winning trophies.

its not exactly like they been threatening in the competition every year

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Post by GSC Mon 02 Sep 2019, 6:26 pm

for a club of Uniteds size, theyd obviously rather be in the CL final than winning the EL. that they're in the EL at all is a failure
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 02 Sep 2019, 6:32 pm

compelling and rich wrote:cant understand why anyone would say that getting to a final in a cup competition is better than actually winning trophies.

its not exactly like they been threatening in the competition every year

Just shows how far Utd have fallen that winning the reserves cup and against some European part timers is now seen as success. A real shame
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Post by Atila Mon 02 Sep 2019, 6:48 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:cant understand why anyone would say that getting to a final in a cup competition is better than actually winning trophies.

its not exactly like they been threatening in the competition every year

Just shows how far Utd have fallen that winning the reserves cup and against some European part timers is now seen as success. A real shame
The success of a club is mainly counted by trophies won, not by how many losing finals they have been to.

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Post by compelling and rich Mon 02 Sep 2019, 7:02 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
compelling and rich wrote:cant understand why anyone would say that getting to a final in a cup competition is better than actually winning trophies.

its not exactly like they been threatening in the competition every year

Just shows how far Utd have fallen that winning the reserves cup and against some European part timers is now seen as success. A real shame

previous winners of the europa in the last few years ath madrid, chelsea, united, seville, porto. realy small part time minnows them. played ajax in the final, that same team didnt too bad in the major european competition last season

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 03 Sep 2019, 12:49 am

Spurs are definitely a team on the up and United a team on the slide. Better coach, better players, players whose games seem to be improved and their status then follows.

Spurs have looked consistently good in the league for years. By virtue of such, they can’t even win the Europa. I do think they should actually look at trying to win something, but that’s about the only thing United have done, and reputation outside of England is definitely more buoyed by a champions league final than an FA Cup or League Cup win

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Post by Soul Requiem Wed 04 Sep 2019, 10:02 am

In  a rather bizarre turn of events Inter are claiming that monkey chanting aimed at Lukaku is not racist but a sign of respect. That is a frankly pathetic and rather frightening excuse.

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Post by Afro Wed 04 Sep 2019, 10:15 am

Soul Requiem wrote:In  a rather bizarre turn of events Inter are claiming that monkey chanting aimed at Lukaku is not racist but a sign of respect. That is a frankly pathetic and rather frightening excuse.

It was the Inter fans wasn't it, rather than Inter themselves?

But still, you're right it is a bizarre justification. They are basically saying that in Italy they are different, and it is because the opposition fans are scared of the player.

Funny how they are only scared of the black players - that's Lukaku, Kean, Matuidi and Muntari
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Post by Atila Wed 04 Sep 2019, 10:32 am

Soul Requiem wrote:In  a rather bizarre turn of events Inter are claiming that monkey chanting aimed at Lukaku is not racist but a sign of respect. That is a frankly pathetic and rather frightening excuse.
I'm not surprised at all that they have an excuse for the monkey chanting. Racists are always in denial.

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Post by Soul Requiem Wed 04 Sep 2019, 10:41 am

Afro wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:In  a rather bizarre turn of events Inter are claiming that monkey chanting aimed at Lukaku is not racist but a sign of respect. That is a frankly pathetic and rather frightening excuse.

It was the Inter fans wasn't it, rather than Inter themselves?

But still, you're right it is a bizarre justification. They are basically saying that in Italy they are different, and it is because the opposition fans are scared of the player.

Funny how they are only scared of the black players - that's Lukaku, Kean, Matuidi and Muntari

I did mean the fans yes, sorry.

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Watford sack Javi Gracia

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Post by GSC Sat 07 Sep 2019, 6:02 pm

quique sanchez flores is coming back apparently
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 13 Sep 2019, 1:44 pm

So ahead of our game with Man City, we currently have all 4 of our CBs out, our GK, our RB, and our starting CMs.

Should be a fun game
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Post by Afro Fri 13 Sep 2019, 2:04 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:So ahead of our game with Man City, we currently have all 4 of our CBs out, our GK, our RB, and our starting CMs.

Should be a fun game

Add to that, that you have set your stall out to play attacking football this year....What's your prediction Olly? 7-6 to Nodge?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 13 Sep 2019, 2:07 pm

Afro wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:So ahead of our game with Man City, we currently have all 4 of our CBs out, our GK, our RB, and our starting CMs.

Should be a fun game

Add to that, that you have set your stall out to play attacking football this year....What's your prediction Olly? 7-6 to Nodge?

Genuinely, genuinely fear we might see a record PL score in City's favour. With a consolation from Pukki.

Like our starting back four is likely to be

Sam Byram---Ibrahim Amadou---Jamal Lewis---Phillip Heise

With Kenny McLean and someone else in CM (Vrancic, Trybull, Leitner all out, and Amadou having to play CB means McLean is our only CM).

Never known an injury crisis like it!
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Post by Afro Fri 13 Sep 2019, 2:29 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Afro wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:So ahead of our game with Man City, we currently have all 4 of our CBs out, our GK, our RB, and our starting CMs.

Should be a fun game

Add to that, that you have set your stall out to play attacking football this year....What's your prediction Olly? 7-6 to Nodge?

Genuinely, genuinely fear we might see a record PL score in City's favour. With a consolation from Pukki.

Like our starting back four is likely to be

Sam Byram---Ibrahim Amadou---Jamal Lewis---Phillip Heise

With Kenny McLean and someone else in CM (Vrancic, Trybull, Leitner all out, and Amadou having to play CB means McLean is our only CM).

Never known an injury crisis like it!

I always think of playing City as a freebie week. In all likelihood, they are going to win, good chance they'll score quite a few, and no-one is surprised if you do get stuffed.

Anything that you get from the game, or even if you push them close, it's a bonus!!
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 13 Sep 2019, 2:37 pm

Afro wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
Afro wrote:
Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:So ahead of our game with Man City, we currently have all 4 of our CBs out, our GK, our RB, and our starting CMs.

Should be a fun game

Add to that, that you have set your stall out to play attacking football this year....What's your prediction Olly? 7-6 to Nodge?

Genuinely, genuinely fear we might see a record PL score in City's favour. With a consolation from Pukki.

Like our starting back four is likely to be

Sam Byram---Ibrahim Amadou---Jamal Lewis---Phillip Heise

With Kenny McLean and someone else in CM (Vrancic, Trybull, Leitner all out, and Amadou having to play CB means McLean is our only CM).

Never known an injury crisis like it!

I always think of playing City as a freebie week. In all likelihood, they are going to win, good chance they'll score quite a few, and no-one is surprised if you do get stuffed.

Anything that you get from the game, or even if you push them close, it's a bonus!!

I'd snap your hand off for a 3-0 defeat right now
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Post by Guest Sat 14 Sep 2019, 4:57 pm

Today’s result for Leicester showcases they’ve made no step forward

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Post by Afro Sat 14 Sep 2019, 6:00 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:
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Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:So ahead of our game with Man City, we currently have all 4 of our CBs out, our GK, our RB, and our starting CMs.

Should be a fun game

Add to that, that you have set your stall out to play attacking football this year....What's your prediction Olly? 7-6 to Nodge?

Genuinely, genuinely fear we might see a record PL score in City's favour. With a consolation from Pukki.

Like our starting back four is likely to be

Sam Byram---Ibrahim Amadou---Jamal Lewis---Phillip Heise

With Kenny McLean and someone else in CM (Vrancic, Trybull, Leitner all out, and Amadou having to play CB means McLean is our only CM).

Never known an injury crisis like it!

I always think of playing City as a freebie week. In all likelihood, they are going to win, good chance they'll score quite a few, and no-one is surprised if you do get stuffed.

Anything that you get from the game, or even if you push them close, it's a bonus!!

I'd snap your hand off for a 3-0 defeat right now

What about now...!?
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Post by Guest Sat 14 Sep 2019, 6:37 pm

3-2 to Norwich FT

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 14 Sep 2019, 7:29 pm

What an absolute nonsense of a football team we are
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Post by Atila Sat 14 Sep 2019, 7:41 pm

Well done Norwich! Got to laugh at the "experts" who predicted a big score for City. Very Happy

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 14 Sep 2019, 9:36 pm

I’m so happy
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