Brexit

by **JuliusHMarx** Thu 29 Aug 2019, 9:39 am

First topic message reminder :

Tea anyone?

by Samo Sat 01 Feb 2020, 6:39 am

Happy Vassal State day everyone!

by Soul Requiem Sat 01 Feb 2020, 8:29 am

Samo wrote:Happy Vassal State day everyone!

Oh bless, still can't get over it.

by Samo Sat 01 Feb 2020, 10:36 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
Samo wrote:Happy Vassal State day everyone!

Oh bless, still can't get over it.

Never been happier.

by **Pr4wn** Sat 01 Feb 2020, 12:23 pm

The UK ambassador to the USA seems to think that the Americans are going to want the NHS to pay much higher prices for drugs as part of an US/UK trade deal. But what would he know?

by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 03 Feb 2020, 12:05 pm

Unmitigated disaster fast approaching...

Sad.. Very sad...

Grandpa and Grandma have left the UK in a fix..

Should ban votes for over 70s and bring in votes at 16..

Kids have got more sense and it is their future.

by Soul Requiem Mon 03 Feb 2020, 12:08 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Unmitigated disaster fast approaching...

Sad.. Very sad...

Grandpa and Grandma have left the UK in a fix..

Should ban votes for over 70s and bring in votes at 16..

Kids have got more sense and it is their future.

by Duty281 Sat 22 Feb 2020, 10:25 am

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear. laughing

by CaledonianCraig Sat 22 Feb 2020, 12:48 pm

Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union. thumbsup

by Duty281 Sat 22 Feb 2020, 12:56 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union.

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

by Steffan Sat 22 Feb 2020, 1:17 pm

Hey Duty. Was it your mother on Question Time last Thursday just out of interest?

by Duty281 Sat 22 Feb 2020, 1:24 pm

Steffan wrote:Hey Duty. Was it your mother on Question Time last Thursday just out of interest?

Doubt it, she lives in Jamaica.

by CaledonianCraig Sat 22 Feb 2020, 1:44 pm

Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union.

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

What are you babbling about?

You post up a link trying to mock the EU for not coming to agreements over Brexit. The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK. Two countries within the UK voted against Brexit. Tough crap its happened. And then when the Cummings government wanted to negotiate a new Brexit Deal over Northern Ireland border issues the EU left it up to Ireland to listen to proposals and would only proceed onwards if Irish government was happy. On the other side of the coin Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland had no say whatsoever on any of the Brexit Withdrawal bill. What a dictatorship.

by Duty281 Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:12 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union.

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting. thumbsup

by CaledonianCraig Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:22 pm

Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union.

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting.

I think you need to. On Brexit just one country needed to veto the agreement and it would not have been okayed by the EU. Just like just one country needs to say no to trade agreement deals and the deal will not go ahead. That is most definitely NOT the case in the UK.

by Duty281 Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:36 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union.

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting.

I think you need to. On Brexit just one country needed to veto the agreement and it would not have been okayed by the EU. Just like just one country needs to say no to trade agreement deals and the deal will not go ahead. That is most definitely NOT the case in the UK.

Hence why I said ‘laws’, not ‘agreements’. Most trade agreements do have the power to be vetoed by one country (another reason why the U.K. is better off out), but laws go through on majority (so they can be pushed onto countries who don’t agree with them, contrary to your false claim).

When you say ‘just one country needed to veto the agreement’, with regards to Brexit, if you mean the withdrawal agreement that recently went through, then that is false as one country does not have the power of veto.

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-veto-brexit-deal/

If you mean a possible future trade arrangement, then yes, one country can veto it.

by CaledonianCraig Sat 22 Feb 2020, 2:58 pm

Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Duty281 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/21/eu-leaders-at-odds-over-filling-brexit-shortfall

Oh dear.

At least it is a union where every country gets heard and listened to. Sounds far more independent and open than another union.

This is the Brexit thread, Craig, not the whinging-about-how-a-vote-in-2014-didn’t-go-the-way-you-wanted thread.

The point I make is that EU listens to all of its member states and does not push through laws and agreements that not everyone is for so unlike the UK.

Completely false, as usual. The EU, like every other place, does not use unanimity in pushing through laws, instead it uses a majority system. Do some research before posting.

I think you need to. On Brexit just one country needed to veto the agreement and it would not have been okayed by the EU. Just like just one country needs to say no to trade agreement deals and the deal will not go ahead. That is most definitely NOT the case in the UK.

Hence why I said ‘laws’, not ‘agreements’. Most trade agreements do have the power to be vetoed by one country (another reason why the U.K. is better off out), but laws go through on majority (so they can be pushed onto countries who don’t agree with them, contrary to your false claim).

When you say ‘just one country needed to veto the agreement’, with regards to Brexit, if you mean the withdrawal agreement that recently went through, then that is false as one country does not have the power of veto.

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-veto-brexit-deal/

If you mean a possible future trade arrangement, then yes, one country can veto it.

Whereas in the UK that is NOT the case. Scotland and Northern Ireland voted against Brexit but hey ho it happened. And this is laughingly referred to as 'The Union of Equals'. Laugh

by Soul Requiem Sat 22 Feb 2020, 3:53 pm

A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

by CaledonianCraig Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:15 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

by Soul Requiem Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:21 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

Dont post this nonsense and accuse others of being dense Doh

by CaledonianCraig Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:31 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

Dont post this nonsense and accuse others of being dense

Take a look at this thread - multiple people mocking your stupidity.

by Soul Requiem Sat 22 Feb 2020, 4:48 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:A union of equals doesn't mean 3 million people having the same say as 60 million, not sure why that concept is so difficult for you to understand.

Are you being deliberately dense?

The terminology laughingly used suggests that all four countries in this union has an equal say when quite clearly they do not. Brexit proves that straight away. It is a union where what English MPs want to vote through they can and will and Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland can do nothing about that. If you were not English believe you me you would not like that set up in this union I guarantee it.

Dont post this nonsense and accuse others of being dense

Take a look at this thread - multiple people mocking your stupidity.

Those in glass houses Craig.

by Samo Wed 17 Jun 2020, 5:42 pm

So we may have destroyed our free trade with the EU but atleast Johnsons got a back up plan for a trade deal with Australia for Vegemite and Tim Tams.

Suffering christ.

by BamBam Wed 17 Jun 2020, 8:33 pm

Surely you aren't trying to minimise just how great Tim Tams are angel

by **Pr4wn** Wed 22 Jul 2020, 2:45 am

Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?

by lostinwales Wed 22 Jul 2020, 10:48 am

Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?

The lunatics have taken over the asylum and have no interest in anybody finding out how. Desperate and depressing times.

by Samo Wed 22 Jul 2020, 11:06 am

They only have a problem with unelected bureaucrats when they do things they are told they shouldnt like. If they get their beloved Brexit they couldnt give a Poopie. Its not about right or wrong anymore, its about winning and nothing can take away from them the thing they believe they won.

Even if what they won is choosing to get punched in the nuts. It was their choice. And now nothing matters more to them than getting punched in the nuts. Because it was their choice and their choice won.

by **navyblueshorts** Wed 22 Jul 2020, 3:25 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?

Firstly, I agree w/ the general tenor. However, maybe this has come about because of the perhaps naive assumption that 'The West' could work w/ the newer Russia, starting from around Blair's time? If so, perhaps a little credulous. Possibly an issue w/ liberal democracies?

by dyrewolfe Thu 23 Jul 2020, 3:39 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?
Firstly, I agree w/ the general tenor. However, maybe this has come about because of the perhaps naive assumption that 'The West' could work w/ the newer Russia, starting from around Blair's time? If so, perhaps a little credulous. Possibly an issue w/ liberal democracies?

More an issue with nasty, unscrupulous dictatorships that will stop at nothing to achieve their aims.

But yes, Western democracies were naive (and greedy) to think they could deal honestly with Russia or China. Happy to take their money & investment...now we're paying the price for it.

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu 23 Jul 2020, 6:57 pm

Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.

by **navyblueshorts** Fri 24 Jul 2020, 9:37 am

dyrewolfe wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:Man who was apparently furious about unelected European bureaucrats trying to run the UK apparent;y doesn't have too much of a problem with Russian ones giving it a go.

Why are people not furious about this? Surely it has to be looked into?
Firstly, I agree w/ the general tenor. However, maybe this has come about because of the perhaps naive assumption that 'The West' could work w/ the newer Russia, starting from around Blair's time? If so, perhaps a little credulous. Possibly an issue w/ liberal democracies?

More an issue with nasty, unscrupulous dictatorships that will stop at nothing to achieve their aims.

But yes, Western democracies were naive (and greedy) to think they could deal honestly with Russia or China. Happy to take their money & investment...now we're paying the price for it.

Fair point. Perhaps better phrased that way.

by **navyblueshorts** Fri 24 Jul 2020, 9:40 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.

Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 24 Jul 2020, 4:15 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

by **Pr4wn** Sat 25 Jul 2020, 2:30 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

You're embarrassing yourself.

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 25 Jul 2020, 7:49 am

Pr4wn wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

You're embarrassing yourself.

You are entitled to your opinion..

by **navyblueshorts** Sat 25 Jul 2020, 4:35 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Sorry to break it to you but with the deplorable press both here in the UK and Stateside.. Politicians can be as hypocritical as they want..

Difference here is that Johnson has 90% behind him while Trump swims against 90%..

Hence Biden's cognitive issues and Ukraine shenanigans are largely unreported..

The woeful drop in print circulation can only be a good thing.
Nonsense, especially on Ukraine. That's not reported on so much now because, despite the Right trying very hard, no-one thinks there's a great to deal to answer there. There's more focus on Trump because he's simply asking for it - if you talk demonstrable scheisse (injected any disinfectant recently?) and go out of your way to be confrontational, you're going to get comment, good or bad. If Trump actually acted Presidential for once and for a period of time, Biden would get more comment/analysis etc.

You are so naive.....It's never been reported except on Fox....Biden is banged to rights on getting the Ukrainian Head Prosecutor sacked for investigating his Son in exchange for Millions of dollars..

Perhaps read instead of contributing.....But while you are here would you like to invest in an oil field in the field next to my garden ???

I don't watch Fox, so how come I know more than enough about it? Nice to know you have an inside line on the evidence re. sacking of prosecutor that so many others seem not to have come across. Still not thinking, are we? Hug

by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 25 Jul 2020, 5:10 pm

For a Teacher you are very naive....

Quite charming in a way.

Read up on Biden and the Ukraine and get back to me...

Feel free to patronize me then....Start with how his Son with no qualifications ended up earning hundreds of thousands on a Ukranian oil Company board while Biden was VP..

Maybe they liked his smile.

by **navyblueshorts** Sat 25 Jul 2020, 7:23 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:For a Teacher you are very naive....

Quite charming in a way.

Read up on Biden and the Ukraine and get back to me...

Feel free to patronize me then....Start with how his Son with no qualifications ended up earning hundreds of thousands on a Ukranian oil Company board while Biden was VP..

Maybe they liked his smile.

by **navyblueshorts** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 8:33 am

A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

by Soul Requiem Tue 15 Sep 2020, 8:51 am

navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

by **Pr4wn** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 9:29 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Fancy commenting on the article instead of making a cheap point?

by **Pr4wn** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 9:31 am

Ed Miliband completely humiliated Johnson yesterday. A surprisingly good speech. Worth a watch if you've got 15 spare minutes.

by Soul Requiem Tue 15 Sep 2020, 9:34 am

Pr4wn wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Fancy commenting on the article instead of making a cheap point?

No, I'm happy with my comment.

by lostinwales Tue 15 Sep 2020, 10:59 am

Soul Requiem wrote:
Pr4wn wrote:
Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Fancy commenting on the article instead of making a cheap point?

No, I'm happy with my comment.

Truly shocking that a foreign journal might want a locally based journo to write on local events. Completely unheard of.

by **Pr4wn** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 11:33 am

Pretty sure he's British, to be fair.

by Samo Tue 15 Sep 2020, 1:40 pm

Absolute scenes in parliament last night as the party that promised and promoted a "Global Britain" decided that the best way to achieve that would be destroy any shred of credibility we had, and torch the deal Johnson promised as "Oven-ready" - the very same deal they were tripping over themselves telling us they had to vote for it to "Get Brexit Done" and win the election.

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

by CaledonianCraig Tue 15 Sep 2020, 1:58 pm

Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.

by **navyblueshorts** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 2:13 pm

Soul Requiem wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:A view from abroad:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/09/britain-brexit-humbling/616343/

A London based journalist is a view from abroad now?

Possibly, just possibly, he's in touch w/ them back in America and may just spend time there as well?

by **navyblueshorts** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 2:17 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.

Going to be funny watching the Sheltand Islands secede from Scotland...

by CaledonianCraig Tue 15 Sep 2020, 2:34 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.
Going to be funny watching the Sheltand Islands secede from Scotland...

Perhaps you need to read this:-

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/talk-shetland-independence-wide-mark-2968657

thumbsup

by **superflyweight** Tue 15 Sep 2020, 2:43 pm

CaledonianCraig wrote:
navyblueshorts wrote:
CaledonianCraig wrote:
Samo wrote:

Ever feel like you've been sold down the river?

That happened around six years ago.
Going to be funny watching the Sheltand Islands secede from Scotland...

Perhaps you need to read this:-

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/talk-shetland-independence-wide-mark-2968657

While it does approach the story with a good deal of sense and realism, it does throw up an interesting issue in its own right. How does the SNP government, which itself demands greater powers from Westminster (and eventually of course, Independence), justify its continuing power grab and centralisation of government in the face of protest from local regions who want their own level of autonomy?

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