Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[Soul Requiem]

First topic message reminder :

The far left is often dependent on where an individual themselves is on the political spectrum, for example Owen Jones may be seen as far left to someone who is centre right but to a centrist will be seen as merely left wing, personally have him down as part of the hard left.

I have him as left wing. Though is hard left not the same as far left because I dont have him as far left. I get tge views based on your own spectrum though. Which is why I hare labour supporters calling Starmer and others right wing.  Left of centre is not right wing.

I would say that hard left is within the standard left wing myself, thinking of someone like Tony Benn being hard left as opposed to Ed Milliband who was soft left, will say however that is possibly closer to far left than it is the centre.

[super_realist]

He wasn't though. Nothing he said was racist.
Did you not see the bit when I said neither of them  should not be slinging insults? Why do you read so selectively?

Did you?

And nothing he said, did you think was racist, difference again. You come from different starting points.

Well what do you think he said is racist?

[superflyweight]

He wasn't though. Nothing he said was racist.
Did you not see the bit when I said neither of them  should not be slinging insults? Why do you read so selectively?

Defamation is a particuarly tricky legal area and a lot comes down to context. Where Fox might have some difficulty is that because of the way he's used the language, he's directly accused the guy of something. The language used by the other guy "what a racist" amounts more to name calling and it might be possible to argue that he was expressing an opinion (particularly in the context of Fox's original actions).

Either way, its probably too expensive for either of them to find out the answer.

[beninho]

He wasn't though. Nothing he said was racist.
Did you not see the bit when I said neither of them  should not be slinging insults? Why do you read so selectively?

Did you?

And nothing he said, did you think was racist, difference again. You come from different starting points.

Well what do you think he said is racist?

Not really paid it much attention. But Fox is such a massive cnut I wouldn't be surprised if he said something racist.

[super_realist]

He wasn't though. Nothing he said was racist.
Did you not see the bit when I said neither of them  should not be slinging insults? Why do you read so selectively?

Did you?

And nothing he said, did you think was racist, difference again. You come from different starting points.

Well what do you think he said is racist?

Not really paid it much attention. But Fox is such a massive cnut I wouldn't be surprised if he said something racist.

So you don't even know? Well done, leads me to believe you don't even know why you think he's a "c".

[beninho]

He wasn't though. Nothing he said was racist.
Did you not see the bit when I said neither of them  should not be slinging insults? Why do you read so selectively?

Did you?

And nothing he said, did you think was racist, difference again. You come from different starting points.

Well what do you think he said is racist?

Not really paid it much attention. But Fox is such a massive cnut I wouldn't be surprised if he said something racist.

So you don't even know? Well done, leads me to believe you don't even know why you think he's a "c".

I'm fully aware who he is. I generally switch off when he starts coming out with his nonsense and issues with black people. Soubds like you could join his new party.

I've seen enough to make the opinion he is a cunnnt

[super_realist]

And you still can't give an example of anything he has said that is racist? Something familiar about this.

[beninho]

And you still can't give an example of anything he has said that is racist? Something familiar about this.

I called him a cunnt not a racist.ypu seem misunderstood

[super_realist]

And you still can't give an example of anything he has said that is racist? Something familiar about this.

I called him a cunnt not a racist.ypu seem misunderstood

Why is he a cnut then? You said he had issues with black people, but can't give an example.

[Soul Requiem]

I'm fully aware who he is. I generally switch off when he starts coming out with his nonsense and issues with black people. Soubds like you could join his new party.

I've seen enough to make the opinion he is a cunnnt

I tend to think it's this comment that needs some explaining.

[beninho]

And you still can't give an example of anything he has said that is racist? Something familiar about this.

I called him a cunnt not a racist.ypu seem misunderstood

Why is he a cnut then?

Because he seems like one to me based on what I've seen and read.

[beninho]

I'm fully aware who he is. I generally switch off when he starts coming out with his nonsense and issues with black people. Soubds like you could join his new party.

I've seen enough to make the opinion he is a cunnnt

I tend to think it's this comment that needs some explaining.

Boycotting a supermarket for supporting black history month is, at best, questionable.

Laurence Fox
@LozzaFox
Dear @sainsburys

I won’t be shopping in your supermarket ever again whilst you promote racial segregation and discrimination.

I sincerely hope others join me. RT

#BoycottSainsburys

Further reading here

[super_realist]

I'm fully aware who he is. I generally switch off when he starts coming out with his nonsense and issues with black people. Soubds like you could join his new party.

I've seen enough to make the opinion he is a cunnnt

I tend to think it's this comment that needs some explaining.

Boycotting a supermarket for supporting black history month is, at best, questionable.

That's not what he tweeted at all and not why he boycotted Sainsburys. Why don't you actually go and look at what he tweeted instead of what Sainsburys replied with. Fox said nothing about Black History Month.
He was referring to the divisive and segregation of Sainsburys white board deciding they needed to give their black employees a safe space, despite not being asked to.
Do some bloody research, it's never been easier.

By the way, I think boycotting a supermarket for this is stupid anyway.

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1312690460654219265?s=19

This is literally a response to Sainsbury's talking about bhm saying he will boycott them. Questionable.

If you read that tweet and statement and think I'm Boycotting you, then you or anyobe that does are questionable.

[super_realist]

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1312690460654219265?s=19

Again, it doesn't say Fox is boycotting Sainsburys for anything to do with BHM, it was to do with introducing safe spaces. That's twice I've told you now.

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1312690460654219265?s=19

Again, it doesn't say Fox is boycotting Sainsburys for anything to do with BHM, it was to do with introducing safe spaces. That's twice I've told you now.

So, he is boycotting due to having issues with black people and how they are treated by Sainsbury's?

[super_realist]

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1312690460654219265?s=19

Again, it doesn't say Fox is boycotting Sainsburys for anything to do with BHM, it was to do with introducing safe spaces. That's twice I've told you now.

So, he is boycotting due to having issues with black people and how they are treated by Sainsbury's?

No he is boycotting Sainsburys for promoting segregation of black  people from non black people by them deciding that black people require safe spaces on the whim of their white board when no call for such a space was even required or demanded.

Do you ths sound racist of Fox to you?
I think it's very petty of Fox, but it's certainly not racist. He might be a plummy toff, but that's not racist.

[beninho]

I didnt call him racist. But, boycotting a supermarket because how they treat black people, is well, ridiculous. And opens you up to comments.

I literally have no issues with anything Sainsbury's posted that he responded to saying he was boycotting them.

[super_realist]

Fox made no mention and no complaint on their stance on BHM,

The screenshot of the tweet is misleading though on Fox's part, rather than show that part it would be better if he was showing the part to which he objected.

[beninho]

To be fair, I still watch Lewis which i did enjoy.

[super_realist]

To be fair, I still watch Lewis which i did enjoy.

Quite like that too.

[McLaren]

Remember when an environmental leftist assassinated an mp?

[Soul Requiem]

Remember when an environmental leftist assassinated an mp?

I remember a left wing nationalist attempting to assassinate the then Prime Minister and instead killing five innocent people.

[super_realist]

Remember when an environmental leftist assassinated an mp?

What? Why do you have to assassinate someone to be a despicable group who have no consistency to their argument and are utter hypocrites?

[beninho]

Hypocrites! Drink! If you are playing super realist word salad bingo.

[superflyweight]

Hypocrites! Drink! If you are playing super realist word salad bingo.

I'm still recovering from yesterday's game due to the overuse of "lefty" to describe 99.9% of the World's population.  It was like Jim Davidson with Tourette's.

[beninho]

Nothing wrong with Jim Davidson, its just lefty being hysterical.

[McLaren]

What I can't work is how a guy (super) who despises the USA has adopted the hardcore libertarian world view that is so prevalent in that country.

[navyblueshorts]

What I can't work is how a guy (super) who despises the USA has adopted the hardcore libertarian world view that is so prevalent in that country.

Except it's not really libertarian, is it? The attitude of those that espouse it is essentially "I'll do what I like, but you can't do anything you like if it effects me in ways I don't like." It's the World view of a child or a narcissist. Fine; **** off, live on an island on your own and the rest of us will get on with being adults.

[beninho]

Just saw a daily show video from a trump rally. People not in masks obvs, when questioned about pro life views says he's all for protecting people, yet refuses to wear a mask.

Some people are so stupid.

[JAS]

Remember when an environmental leftist assassinated an mp?

I remember a left wing nationalist attempting to assassinate the then Prime Minister and instead killing five innocent people.

I would suggest Terrorist rather than left wing nationalist, I mean we could have endless tit for tat trying to attach right wing/left wing labels to a whole collection of the worlds psychotic despots.

[Soul Requiem]

Remember when an environmental leftist assassinated an mp?

I remember a left wing nationalist attempting to assassinate the then Prime Minister and instead killing five innocent people.

I would suggest Terrorist rather than left wing nationalist, I mean we could have endless tit for tat trying to attach right wing/left wing labels to a whole collection of the worlds psychotic despots.

My point exactly JAS. Scum is scum no matter how you label it.

[JAS]

What I can't work is how a guy (super) who despises the USA has adopted the hardcore libertarian world view that is so prevalent in that country.

Except it's not really libertarian, is it? The attitude of those that espouse it is essentially "I'll do what I like, but you can't do anything you like if it effects me in ways I don't like." It's the World view of a child or a narcissist. Fine; **** off, live on an island on your own and the rest of us will get on with being adults.

It is bonkers but it’s real life America these days. Trump has dragged a significant proportion of the American consciousness into the sewer. Yes there were rampant crazy right wing Christian zealots before Trump came along but in 4 years it’s astonishing how much worse and more intolerant he’s made things.

On a slight tangent..  It’s astonishing how vehemently he gave Obamacare both barrels. “You can’t give people free healthcare” Yet 4 years on its “I feel great, I want every American to have access to the drugs I’ve had for free”  Yep, wouldn’t obamacare have done that you utter douche bag!!

[navyblueshorts]

What I can't work is how a guy (super) who despises the USA has adopted the hardcore libertarian world view that is so prevalent in that country.

Except it's not really libertarian, is it? The attitude of those that espouse it is essentially "I'll do what I like, but you can't do anything you like if it effects me in ways I don't like." It's the World view of a child or a narcissist. Fine; **** off, live on an island on your own and the rest of us will get on with being adults.

It is bonkers but it’s real life America these days. Trump has dragged a significant proportion of the American consciousness into the sewer. Yes there were rampant crazy right wing Christian zealots before Trump came along but in 4 years it’s astonishing how much worse and more intolerant he’s made things.

On a slight tangent..  It’s astonishing how vehemently he gave Obamacare both barrels. “You can’t give people free healthcare” Yet 4 years on its “I feel great, I want every American to have access to the drugs I’ve had for free”  Yep, wouldn’t obamacare have done that you utter douche bag!!

Trump's a moron. I wouldn't trust him to sit the right way on a toilet seat.

[beninho]

https://twitter.com/ShaunBaileyUK/status/1314860771315273730?s=19

This is the idiot the tories have put up for London mayor.

[super_realist]

He couldn't be any worse than Sadiq Khan.

[super_realist]

Hypocrites! Drink! If you are playing super realist word salad bingo.

How is it word salad? The likes of XR are hypocrites and have little understanding of their cause and an inconsistency to their argument. That's not even debatable, it's a fact.

[beninho]

Hypocrites! Drink! If you are playing super realist word salad bingo.

How is it word salad? The likes of XR are hypocrites and have little understanding of their cause and an inconsistency to their argument. That's not even debatable, it's a fact.

Hypocrites! Drink!!

[super_realist]

Hypocrites! Drink! If you are playing super realist word salad bingo.

How is it word salad? The likes of XR are hypocrites and have little understanding of their cause and an inconsistency to their argument. That's not even debatable, it's a fact.

Hypocrites!  Drink!!

So you don't dispute they are, well done.

Anyway, if we're playing a drinking game when anyone mentions a word or subject we'd have sunk the QE2 by now in alcohol in your constant (and boring) rambling about the right.

[McLaren]

Interesting article from nature medicine.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1112-0

I obviously recommend reading it but the first paragraph from the discussion gives a flavour of what was found.

With our consistent and comparable analysis, we identified four groups of countries in terms of the overall death toll of the first wave of the COVID-19 pandemic. The first group comprises countries that have avoided a detectable rise (with a posterior probability of at least 90%) in all-cause mortality and includes Bulgaria, New Zealand, Slovakia, Australia, Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Norway, Denmark and Finland. The second and third groups of countries experienced a low-to-medium effect of the pandemic on overall deaths and include Austria, Switzerland and Portugal (low effect) and France, the Netherlands and Sweden (medium effect). The fourth group of countries, which experienced the highest mortality toll, consists of Belgium, Italy, Scotland, Spain and England and Wales.

[McLaren]

Super

As a super rational type I am always shocked by how easy your sensibilities are harmed by hypocrisy.

[beninho]

Hypocrites! Drink! If you are playing super realist word salad bingo.

How is it word salad? The likes of XR are hypocrites and have little understanding of their cause and an inconsistency to their argument. That's not even debatable, it's a fact.

Hypocrites!  Drink!!

So you don't dispute they are, well done.

Anyway, if we're playing a drinking game when anyone mentions a word or subject we'd have sunk the QE2 by now in alcohol in your constant (and boring) rambling about the right.

Sick burn bruv

[beninho]

Super

As a super rational type I am always shocked by how easy your sensibilities are harmed by hypocrisy.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/10/why-everyone-hates-a-hypocrite-oliver-burkeman

He just hates people who don't live to his same moral standards. People shoukd all be as good as him.

[super_realist]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

[beninho]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

[super_realist]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

Careful Beninho, I got a week ban for calling someone a plank.

Comment or not, The tax dodging Guardian does not represent good quality journalism. Who cares about their opinion?

[beninho]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

Careful Beninho, I got a week ban for calling someone a plank.

Comment or not, The tax dodging Guardian does not represent good quality journalism. Who cares about their opinion?

I'm generally a guardian reader. So, me.

[super_realist]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

Careful Beninho, I got a week ban for calling someone a plank.

Comment or not, The tax dodging Guardian does not represent good quality journalism. Who cares about their opinion?

I'm generally a guardian reader. So, me.

You're as rare as rocking horse excrement then. They have a laughable circulation.

[Soul Requiem]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

Someone struck a nerve?

[beninho]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

Someone struck a nerve?

Nope.

[beninho]

The irony of a hypocritical paper doing an article on hypocrisy.

Citing The Guardian as a source of credible information or journalism is like citing  Wikipedia or the Sun or Star.

Its a comment piece not a fricking in depth expose you plank.

Careful Beninho, I got a week ban for calling someone a plank.

Comment or not, The tax dodging Guardian does not represent good quality journalism. Who cares about their opinion?

I'm generally a guardian reader. So, me.

You're as rare as rocking horse excrement then. They have a laughable circulation.

I read it had 286m visits in September. Which doesn't seem too bad.

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