2021-22 Ashes Tipping Competition

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The 2021-22 Ashes Tipping Competition Rules:

1.
Pick 2 (two) batsmen and 2 (two) bowlers from both England and Australia who you think will score the most runs and take the most wickets.
You get both batting and bowling points per innings so a bowler who scores runs has both batting and bowling scores added together.
e.g.
Warner, Labuschagne, Starc, Cummins
Malan, Root, Broad, Anderson

2.
Pick 1 (one) fielder from each team; excluding wicket keepers for most catches in the Series.
It can be a bowler (for c&b) if you want.
e.g.
Smith, Stokes

3.
Select which wicket keeper will take the greatest number of catches, stumpings and run outs combined for each Test.
If a wicket keeper is injured then the replacement keeper's figures shall be used.
e.g.
Australia (Carey) or England (Bairstow... or Buttler) or the same number of dismissals.

4.
Predict the Toss:
a) Who wins the toss?
e.g.
Australia

b) Winning captain's decision - bat or field?
e.g.
Bat

5.
a) Predict the 1st Ashes Test result.
e.g.
Australia or England or Draw

Selections must be posted a minimum one (1) hour before the commencement of each Test. No PM reminders shall be sent.


Scoring:

Note:
The figures in bold below represent changes to previous competition scoring values.
I have increased the bonus amounts - for batting and bowling bonuses, the toss and captain's decision and for correctly selecting the test match result - for added point-scoring value.

1.
1 point for every run scored by your nominated batsmen. Add together for each Test.
Bonus 25 points for 100 runs.
extra 30 points for 150 runs.
extra 45 points for 200 runs.
extra 60 points for 250 runs.
extra 125 bonus points for 300+ runs.

Note: the batting & bowling score bonuses accumulate so;

Batting: (per innings)
100 runs = 125 points. A player scores 137 runs + 25 = 162 points.
150 runs = 205 points. A player scores 177 runs + 25 + 30 = 232 points.
200 runs = 300 points. A player scores 243 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 = 343 points.
250 runs = 410 points. A player scores 282 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 + 60 = 442 points
300+ runs = 585 points. A player scores 321 runs + 25 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 125 = 606 points.

Bowling: (per innings)
25 points per wicket with a bonus 50 points for a 5-fer.
An extra 30 points for 6-fer, 45 for 7-fer, 60 for 8-fer, 75 for 9-fer.
An extra 100 bonus points for a 10-fer.

5 wickets = 125 points + 50 = 175 points
6 wickets = 150 points + 50 + 30 = 230 points.
7 wickets = 175 points + 50 + 30 + 45 = 300 points
8 wickets = 200 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 = 385 points
9 wickets = 225 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 75 = 485 points
10 wickets = 250 points + 50 + 30 + 45 + 60 + 75 + 100 = 610 points

Caught and bowled = 25 points for the wicket + 25 bonus points for the catch = 50 points.

2.
Fielder catches: Your nominated fieldsman earns you 25 points per catch and 25 points for a run out.

3.
Wicket keepers: 50 points for correct selection for most dismissals across both innings.
Or if you think the wicket keepers will take the same number of total dismissals per innings - then nominate "the same" = 50 points.
If they take the same number of catches and stumpings (combined) and you've picked either one of the keepers - then you earn 25 points only.

4.
a) Correctly predict who wins the toss = 25 points
b) Correctly predict what the winning Captain decides to do = 25 points - only for those with part a) above correct; no points if your a) was incorrect.

5.
a) Correctly predict the winning team for each Test match = 125 points.
b) If you guess all 5 Test match outcomes correctly then there is a further 125 point bonus = 625 + 125 = 750 points.
Note: Correctly predict a "Draw" = 125 points

If one (or more) of your selected players gets injured during a match or is dropped from the Test side after a match, then you’ll have the opportunity to select replacement players – either as it happens - for the injured player or before the next Test commences (for a player who gets dropped).
It doesn’t have to be the actual substitute player – it can be somebody else already in the team. However, you don’t receive any of their previous points up until the point of the replacement of the injured player from the field – you must start accumulating points from scratch with them.

*****

December 8-12, 2021: 1st Test at The 'Gabba, Brisbane. Australia won by 9 wickets (1-0)

December 16-20, 2021: 2nd Test (D/N) at Adelaide Oval. Australia won by 275 runs (2-0)

December 26-30, 2021: 3rd Test at MCG. Australia won by an innings and 14 runs (3-0)

January 5-9, 2022: 4th Test at SCG. Match drawn (3-0)

January 14-18, 2022: 5th Test (D/N) at Bellerive Oval, Hobart. Australia won by 146 runs (4-0)


*****

Good Luck!

Ooft. I'd had a steady if middling performance in the first three Tests. T4 really sunk me though!

Pal Joey wrote:

Duty281 wrote:Don't think I've won one of these before, but looks as though I'm a narrow favourite going into the last. JDizzle is eligible for the 125 point bonus, isn't he, if he picks the final test outcome correctly, so that could make all the difference in the end.

Yes, that's correct. He's picked 4 out of 4 correct results thus far. So if he also correctly picks the 5th, then he gets the extra 125 point bonus.
He's the only one in that position too.

It’s alright - I’ll just bet on the same result I go for in the tipping comp. That should ensure it doesn’t happen!

Head & Green
Lyon & Hazelwood

Stokes & Pope ( Lawrence back-up if either of them is not in)
Woakes & Leach

Labuschagne & Crawley catchers

Eng win the toss, bats first
Eng wins

Eng's WK ( Pope?) takes more catches

Thanks KP_fan. Nice and early!

Khawaja is definitely in for Harris for Australia but they are just waiting on the fitness of Boland; otherwise Richardson should be in the side.

It's more complicated for England. Looks like Burns will be in for Hameed. Waiting on Bairstow; otherwise Pope could return. Woakes, Robinson, Wood and Broad seems to be the go.

Pal Joey wrote:Thanks KP_fan. Nice and early!

Khawaja is definitely in for Harris for Australia but they are just waiting on the fitness of Boland; otherwise Richardson should be in the side.

It's more complicated for England. Looks like Burns will be in for Hameed. Waiting on Bairstow; otherwise Pope could return. Woakes, Robinson, Wood and Broad seems to be the go.

PJ...what's with Hazlewood's fitness?

I have made my selections thinking Pope will keep wicket....might amend when we know Eng's final-11

Ind's flaky batting falling apart
Pant....needs to pay his dues & get a big 50 today

KP_fan wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:Thanks KP_fan. Nice and early!

Khawaja is definitely in for Harris for Australia but they are just waiting on the fitness of Boland; otherwise Richardson should be in the side.

It's more complicated for England. Looks like Burns will be in for Hameed. Waiting on Bairstow; otherwise Pope could return. Woakes, Robinson, Wood and Broad seems to be the go.

PJ...what's with Hazlewood's fitness?

I have made my selections thinking Pope will keep wicket....might amend when we know Eng's final-11

No worries. It's a later start tomorrow. Take your time.

As for Hazlewood. They're still letting him recover from his side strain... or rib soreness from what I've heard. They're playing it safe and letting him properly heal.

Warner, Khawaja, Cummins, Boland (Richardson if no Boland).
Root, Pope, Robinson, Broad. (Crawley if no Pope; Wood if either Robinson or Broad are missing)

Stokes and Smith as the catchers.

Australia's wicketkeeper.

England win the toss and bowl.

Aussie win.

Thanks.

Can't be as bad as the last test (but probably will be).

Khawaja, Smith, Cummins, Boland
Root, Crawley, Robinson, Broad

Warner, Root

Carey

England, bat
Australia win

Batting - Smith and Khawaja / Root and Stokes (Malan then Crawley if Stokes is out)

Bowling - Cummins and Boland (Starc next in line) / Robinson and Broad (Wood next)

Catchers - W*rner & Root

Keeper - Carey

Eng win the toss and bat.

Outcome - England win (I'm 0 from 4 so far so might as well carry on)

Warner, Green, Crawley, Root
Cummins, Boland (or Richardson if Boland not fit), Robinson, Broad

Smith, Crawley

Carey

England, bat
Draw

Labuschagne, Smith, Cummins, Lyon
Malan, Crawley, Wood, Woakes

Warner and Crawley as catchers

I will take Billings for keeper catches

Aussies win the toss and bowl

Aussies win

thanks PJ!

Labuschagne, Smith, Cummins, Lyon
Root, Malan, Wood, Anderson (Broad if Anderson doesn't play)

Root, Smith

Carey

England, bat

Australia win

Swapping to 'all bowlers' for England has moved me up from 'cut adrift' to just 'below average', so it's time to knock that on the head before people start thinking I have a clue what I'm talking about:

Warner, Smith, Cummins, Boland (or Starc)
Crawley, Billings, Robinson, Broad

Labuschagne, Hameed

Billings

Aus field

Eng win

Batters - Khawaja and Smith, Root and Bairstow

Bowlers - Cummins and Boland, Robinson and Anderson (Broad if either don't play)

Fielders - Root and Warner

Keeper - Billings

Toss - England and bowl first

Result - England (optimism sank me in T1 so might as well bookend the series the same way)

Here we go! Thanks again, Joey.

Smith Labuschagne
Cummins Starc (sub Green)
Burns Malan (sub Root)
Woakes Robinson (sub Broad)

Smith
Root

Carey

Australia win toss and bat.

Australia win.

Thanks everyone!

Khawaja, Green, Cummins, Starc
Crawley, Root, Woakes, Broad

Smith, Root

Carey

England, bat

Australia win

Smith, Labuschagne + Cummins, Starc (Richardson, then Boland as reserves)
Root, Bairstow + Robinson, Broad (Crawley + Wood as reserves)

Root and Smith

Carey

England and bat

Australia win


Cheers PJ.

does this start this morning or tomorrow morning? I've really lost interest (in the ashes tournament not your wonderfully run competition jp) . haven't a clue who's playing either. will try to roll the dice

batsmen- khawaja, warner, bairstow, stokes (root as replacement, billings as second if neither play)
bowlers, cummins , boland (starc if not) anderson robinson (woakes as replacemnet)

wicket- carey

catchers- root, warner

toss- aus bat

aus win

Root Crawley Woakes Broad
Smith Green Cummins Starc

Billings

Root Smith

England win toss and bowl

England win.

(More from a desire to remain consistent than strong conviction !)

KP_fan wrote:Head & Green
Lyon & Hazelwood

Stokes & Pope ( Lawrence back-up if either of them is not in)
Woakes & Leach

Labuschagne & Crawley catchers

Eng win the toss, bats first
Eng wins

Eng's WK ( Pope?) takes more catches

So I take Starc for Hazelwood
And Broad for Leach
Thx

Lowlandbrit wrote:
Labuschagne, Hameed

Who do you want in place of Hameed for your catcher, Lowland? (have you down for Burns in the meantime)

king_carlos wrote:Batters - Khawaja and Smith, Root and Bairstow

Who do want in place of Bairstow, Carlos?



Still awaiting selections from Dolphin, Gooseberry and Soul Requiem.

Thanks everyone!

Bit late to the party.

Root, Stokes, Robinson and Broad (bit cheeky going for the wicket takers but my opinions on Woakes and Wood are well known)
Smith, Labuschagne, Cummins and Boland

Warner and Stokes

Billings

Toss n/a

Australia win

Thanks Soul.
I'll start you on Labuschagne for his second innings.

Of course the one time I drop Green...

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Of course the one time I drop Green...

Yeah... I know the feeling. I dropped Head or more correctly; I didn't re-pick him.

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Of course the one time I drop Green...

I had decided to move away from Labuschagne for a change, so was between Warner and Head. I put Head down initially and then changed my mind to Warner.

I'm going to take comfort from the hope that Head will get a duck in the second innings whilst Warner scores 102

Afro wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Of course the one time I drop Green...

I had decided to move away from Labuschagne for a change, so was between Warner and Head. I put Head down initially and then changed my mind to Warner.

I'm going to take comfort from the hope that Head will get a duck in the second innings whilst Warner scores 102

Probably won't need a second innings...

alfie wrote:

Afro wrote:

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Of course the one time I drop Green...

I had decided to move away from Labuschagne for a change, so was between Warner and Head. I put Head down initially and then changed my mind to Warner.

I'm going to take comfort from the hope that Head will get a duck in the second innings whilst Warner scores 102

Probably won't need a second innings...

You just shattered by half full glass.

Funnily enough, when I went Warner it was because I thought there was a good chance Head would only get to bat once whilst Warner might get a second go to chase a low target

Sorry for the slow response PJ. I'll take Pope please. I'm doubling down on strange choices that haven't paid off at all.

Points Table
5th Test, Hobart, Day 1:

4615 Duty [156] *#
4520 JDizzle [194] *
4350 KP_Fan [375] *
4313 Olly [144]
4126 James [169] *
4059 Guildfordbat [144]
4020 Dolphin [119]
4017 Alfie [224] *#
3977 Afro [249] *
3967 Pal Joey [205] *
3915 King Carlos [181] *#
3827 Superflyweight [156] *
3809 Soul Requiem [144]
3604 Lowlandbrit [100]
3549 Gooseberry [119]
3514 Compelling and Rich [106]
3500 Tino [156] *

* denotes correct pick England win toss
# denotes correct pick England elected to bowl/field

Average score: 3978 [170]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
Duty remains on top of the table and now has a 95-point lead over JD.
A super day for KP-fan who selected both Head and Green.
Excellent work form Afro... who is only one solitary point below the accumulative average score!

Hi Pj
Looks like something might have been missed in allocating to me
Should have had 370
I have 3 wickets and 3 catches for the day

KP_fan wrote:Hi Pj
Looks like something might have been missed in allocating to me
Should have had 370
I have 3 wickets and 3 catches  for the day

Sorry, I missed your England win toss - so you get an extra 25 points for that and the 25 point bonus for Head.

England win toss = 25
3 Crawley catches = 75
Head 101 + 25 bonus = 126
Green = 74
Broad 2 wickets = 50
Woakes 1 = 25

So 375 points and you're on 4350... overtaking Olly.

Sorry KP_fan, I had a long day/night.
I've fixed it up above... and now I'll go visit the Optometrist. The same ones the SuperSport crew go to. I've heard they're very good.

Afro and Olly get some extra points too for Crawley's 3 catches... 4 catches now after Cummin's dismissal. A handy 100 points for the three of you.

Good to see I can put the mockers on the Australian batsmen aswell as the English. First time I’ve backed Warner all series

compelling and rich wrote:Good to see I can put the mockers on the Australian batsmen aswell as the English. First time I’ve backed Warner all series

I'm like that too. I always seem to curse whomever I pick. Knew I should have gone for the England win!

Afro wrote:I'm going to take comfort from the hope that Head will get a duck in the second innings whilst Warner scores 102

Ooh. So close!!!!!

Points Table
5th Test, Hobart, Day 2:

4864 Duty [249]
4824 JDizzle [304]
4738 Olly [425] *
4688 KP_Fan [338] #
4481 James [355]
4427 Alfie [410]
4372 Guildfordbat [313]
4371 Pal Joey [404]
4336 Dolphin [316]
4294 Afro [317] *
4181 King Carlos [266]
4097 Superflyweight [270]
4059 Soul Requiem [250]
3908 Lowlandbrit [304]
3875 Gooseberry [326]
3789 Compelling and Rich [275]
3756 Tino [256]

Average score: 4298 [316]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

Notes:
I missed one of Crawley's catches for Afro* and Olly* yesterday. 25 points have been added to today's score.
I've already added the same for KP_fan# as well as the extra 25 point bonus for Head's century yesterday.

Think I'm going to need a Boland masterclass, bat or ball, to win from here! Or Pope hitting a century.

Duty281 wrote:Think I'm going to need a Boland masterclass, bat or ball, to win from here! Or Pope hitting a century.

Yes indeed.  

JD made some ground on you today... he's almost nipping at your heels!


An interesting fact according to my team/individual player stats:

England have a very narrow lead over Australia for this test at the close of Day 2.
681 points to 653 for team scores at present; or 61.91 to 59.36 for individual players.
This can change very quickly of course... a few wickets or runs, then one side grabs a lead.

At the change of innings it was:
Australia: 620/56.36
England: 566/51.45

Amazingly I seem to be climbing the table...best I can hope for is 5th or 6th I think but it's an advance on duelling with Tino for last...

Pal Joey wrote:

Duty281 wrote:Think I'm going to need a Boland masterclass, bat or ball, to win from here! Or Pope hitting a century.

Yes indeed.  

JD made some ground on you today... he's almost nipping at your heels!


An interesting fact according to my team/individual player stats:

England have a very narrow lead over Australia for this test at the close of Day 2.
681 points to 653 for team scores at present; or 61.91 to 59.36 for individual players.
This can change very quickly of course... a few wickets or runs, then one side grabs a lead.

At the change of innings it was:
Australia: 620/56.36
England: 566/51.45

I would happily trade Pope scoring a century and England winning for me winning the tipping comp!

JDizzle wrote:

Pal Joey wrote:

Duty281 wrote:Think I'm going to need a Boland masterclass, bat or ball, to win from here! Or Pope hitting a century.

Yes indeed.  

JD made some ground on you today... he's almost nipping at your heels!


An interesting fact according to my team/individual player stats:

England have a very narrow lead over Australia for this test at the close of Day 2.
681 points to 653 for team scores at present; or 61.91 to 59.36 for individual players.
This can change very quickly of course... a few wickets or runs, then one side grabs a lead.

At the change of innings it was:
Australia: 620/56.36
England: 566/51.45

I would happily trade Pope scoring a century and England winning for me winning the tipping comp!

You jinxed him, JD!

Anyway... the 2nd part of your wish (which you were hoping to avoid) came true. Congratulations!

Points Table
5th Test, Hobart, Day 3:

5321 JDizzle [497] #*+++++
5257 Olly [519] #*
5249 Duty [385] #*
5021 James [540] #*
4915 KP_Fan [227] *
4836 Pal Joey [465] #*
4777 Alfie [350] *
4687 Guildfordbat [315] #*
4683 Afro [389] *
4662 Dolphin [326]
4523 Superflyweight [426] #*
4454 Soul Requiem [395] #*
4451 King Carlos [270] *
4199 Lowlandbrit [291] *
4128 Compelling and Rich [339] #*
4026 Tino [270] *
4020 Gooseberry [145]

Average score: 4659 [362]

First figure - accumulative score / accumulative average score
Second figure in [brackets] - daily score / daily average

# Australia win = 125 points
+++++ Clean Sweep Bonus = 125 points
* Most dismissals (the same) = 25 points
(Carey: 5 caught behinds; Billings: 5 caught behinds)


Special Team Scores for the Fifth Test at Bellerive Oval are as follows:

First figure: Accumulative Score
Figure in brackets: [5th Test Score]

Australia:
5958 [1071] - average player score 541.64 [97.36]

England:
4574 [1037] - average player score 415.82 [94.27]


Top 15 Individual Player Scores: (using the special formula for bonuses, catches, run outs, w/k dismissals)

First figure: Accumulative Score
Figure in brackets: [5th Test Score]

650 Starc [104]
637 Cummins [210]
633 Green [197]
567 Root [65]
556 Lyon [75]
531 Wood [252]
516 Boland [120]
489 Smith [27]
455 Labuschagne [69]
417 Head [129]
413 Carey [123]
407 Broad [151]
373 Warner [0]
371 Stokes [9]
353 Robinson [70]

Followed by: 334 Malan [55], 326 Crawley [134], 296 Woakes [116], Khawaja 295 [17], Buttler 237 [--], Bairstow 214 [--], Anderson 213 [--]

Notes:
Congratulations Mr Dizzle!      
You achieved the Clean Sweep with the 125-point bonus for correctly picking all 5 Ashes Test results and finished 64 points above Olly.
Both Olly and James had very high scores on the final day; scoring 519 points and 540 points respectively.
Duty performed admirably throughout the whole series... and it was a photo finish for his 3rd place; only 8 points behind Olly.
It was great to see the Top 4 surpass the 5000-point mark... and good to see nobody below the 4000-point mark.
Thank you very much everyone for participating again. It's always a roller coaster ride and it's never over until the last wicket falls.

Thanks for the work PJ.

It started so well for me after the 1st test and then went downhill.

A bit like England, apart from the going well in the first test part

Sneaked off the bottom at the very end. That is too funny.

Well done JDizzle.

Thanks for all the hard work, Pee Jay. Really is a fun thing you've got going on here. Well played.

Thanks PJ expertly run as usual.

Last two tests were a shambles for me but at least Duty didn't win.

Top work as always PJ.

My usual spot just above the relegation places, i'm pretty much the Crystal Palace of the tipping competition.

Top work PJ - expertly run as ever! Think that is easily my highest ever finish, great work JDizzle to pip me and call every single result correctly

Thanks everyone... you guys make it so easy for me. It's always good fun running it.
It's like conducting a real time experiment without knowing the final outcome.

Cheers all and thanks as ever to PJ for a supremely run comp. Although I suspect he got more enjoyment putting in the scores for this series than most!

I believe this is my third win too? Do I get to keep and melt down the trophy a la Brazil in 1970?