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Post by Unclear Thu 10 Feb 2022, 1:14 pm

First topic message reminder :

France: Jaminet, Penaud, Fickou, Moefana, Villiere, Ntamack, Du Pont: Baille, Marchand, Atonio, Woki, Willemse, Cros, Jelonch, Alldritt

Bench: Mauvaka, Gros, Bamba, Flaminet, Taofeffanua, Cretin, Lucu, Ramos (covering 10 and 15)


Ireland: Hugo Keenan; Andrew Conway, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, Mack Hansen; Joey Carbery, Jamison Gibson Park; Andrew Porter, Ronan Kelleher, Tadhg Furlong;         Tadhg Beirne, James Ryan; Caelan Doris, Josh van der Flier, Jack Conan.

Bench: Dan Sheehan, Cian Healy, Finlay Bealham, Iain Henderson, Peter O'Mahony, Conor Murray, Jack Carty, Robbie Henshaw.

Referee : Angus Gardner

Date/time : Saturday 12th February, kick off 16:45 (UK time)

Only enforced changes to both teams, could be the decider on a Grand Slam, could be an exhibition of skills and intensity, could be just another game of rugby.

Definitely is my first go at a new topic.

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Post by BigGee Sat 12 Feb 2022, 5:54 pm

Are the French still flakey?

They are still showing signs!

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 12 Feb 2022, 5:54 pm

Duty281 wrote:France are just massive. With the exception of Dupont, it's difficult to differentiate the forwards and the backs. They've won the game, they should push for a BP in the second half.

So should Ireland.
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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 5:55 pm

Great try for Gibson-Park, then a terrible box kick.

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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 5:55 pm

Pressure now on France.

French bench still going to turn the tide

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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 5:58 pm

BigGee wrote:Are the French still flakey?

They are still showing signs!

I think Toulose winning Europe and T14 was a growing experince for DuPont.. Like NZ they just forgot to pay attention and paid the price.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 12 Feb 2022, 5:58 pm

Wow. When France get a sniff they are ruthless.

This has been a fantastic match so far.

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Post by miltonkeynesengland Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm

This game is epic to watch.

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Post by king_carlos Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:00 pm

Some funky camera work going on in this game!

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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:01 pm

Poor by Ireland.

Would take to BPs and a close finish if offered now. It's a good test match and will give Ireland plenty to work on

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Post by king_carlos Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:02 pm

Gros, Bamba, Taofifenau, Flament and Cretin are fantastic bench forwards to bring on. Impressive depth for France. They're missing Ollivon as well!

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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:04 pm

miltonkeynesengland wrote:This game is epic to watch.

It definately has been a good standard. With the benches coming on hopefully the game doesn't go off the boil.

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:05 pm

What happened with O'Mahoney, a very short cameo.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:07 pm

Duty281 wrote:France are just massive. With the exception of Dupont, it's difficult to differentiate the forwards and the backs. They've won the game, they should push for a BP in the second half.

Not really, I think the winger Villiere is probably the smallest player on the pitch, Jaminet and Ntamack look willowy they aren't particularly big and no bigger than their Irish counter parts. The French centres look pretty well built but Aki and Ringrose are not exactly small.

I think the power displayed by some of the French backs is them punching above their weight, particularly Villiere who really doesn't look like he should be bumping off forwards.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:07 pm

Ref is calling our advantage very quickly

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:08 pm

How long is the ref going to give at the ruck after calling "use"

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Post by Geordie Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:09 pm

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Duty281 wrote:France are just massive. With the exception of Dupont, it's difficult to differentiate the forwards and the backs. They've won the game, they should push for a BP in the second half.

Not really, I think the winger Villiere is probably the smallest player on the pitch, Jaminet and Ntamack look willowy they aren't particularly big and no bigger than their Irish counter parts. The French centres look pretty well built but Aki and Ringrose are not exactly small.

I think the power displayed by some of the French backs is them punching above their weight, particularly Villiere who really doesn't look like he should be bumping off forwards.

Villiere is a cracking player Sam. Defo punches above his weight...but he's aggressive.

Just a great alround winger. They're version of Nowell??

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:10 pm

Come on there is no obstruction, get on with it

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:13 pm

France have been superb at breakdown which has been the biggest difference

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Post by king_carlos Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:15 pm

Tadhg Bierne... What a kick  Laugh Laugh

Got to love it.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:20 pm

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Duty281 wrote:France are just massive. With the exception of Dupont, it's difficult to differentiate the forwards and the backs. They've won the game, they should push for a BP in the second half.

Not really, I think the winger Villiere is probably the smallest player on the pitch, Jaminet and Ntamack look willowy they aren't particularly big and no bigger than their Irish counter parts. The French centres look pretty well built but Aki and Ringrose are not exactly small.

I think the power displayed by some of the French backs is them punching above their weight, particularly Villiere who really doesn't look like he should be bumping off forwards.

Villiere is a cracking player Sam. Defo punches above his weight...but he's aggressive.

Just a great alround winger. They're version of Nowell??

 I remember when Agulla signed for Tigers, we expected a fleet footed winger but he sat so many people down it was ridiculous. Low centre of gravity, lean strength and aggression can go a long way.

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:21 pm

French are jumping across the line out again.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:22 pm

Unclear wrote:French are jumping across the line out again.

They have been getting away with murder there. Reckon they should have gone down line.

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:30 pm

Don't understand why that isn't a French knock after Ireland concede the penalty at the ruck, but it was also definitely held up over the line.

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Post by Gooseberry Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:33 pm

Next time someone moans about England kicking the ball away Ill bring up that Irish chap at the end there. Oh well!

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:34 pm

Unclear wrote:Don't understand why that isn't a French knock after Ireland concede the penalty at the ruck, but it was also definitely held up over the line.

It was a knock on but that looked like a grounding as he initially dives over to me.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:34 pm

Unclear wrote:Don't understand why that isn't a French knock after Ireland concede the penalty at the ruck, but it was also definitely held up over the line.

Knocked it on twice, anyway Ireland did well to get back into it. Losing bp might be significant.

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:34 pm

Congratulations France, deserved the win, but Ireland did deserve the losing bonus point after that much improved second half.

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Post by formerly known as Sam Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:35 pm

Good game of rugby that. Two good teams slugging it out.

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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:35 pm

Well done France.

Madness from Ireland with that kick.

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Post by Duty281 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:35 pm

Fair play to Ireland, that was quality. Good tonic after the first game.

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Post by BigGee Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:36 pm

Well done France who never really looked like loosing but a brave BP for the fighting Irish, who looked like they might get blown away at times!

It's going to take a good side to beat France this year!

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:36 pm

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Unclear wrote:Don't understand why that isn't a French knock after Ireland concede the penalty at the ruck, but it was also definitely held up over the line.

It was a knock on but that looked like a grounding as he initially dives over to me.

In the olden days before the TMO definitely a try (give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker in my view), but the slow motion shows arms under the ball to me.


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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:38 pm

A good win by France deserved winners.

With regards to Ireland i did not think they missed Sexton that much to be honest.

So far the best match of the tournament.

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:38 pm

A good  win by France deserved winners.

With regards to Ireland i did not think they missed Sexton that much to be honest.

So far the best match of the tournament.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:39 pm

BigGee wrote:Well done France who never really looked like loosing but a brave BP for the fighting Irish, who looked like they might get blown away at times!

It's going to take a good side to beat France this year!

Eh they did at the end.
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Post by tigertattie Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:39 pm

Bit bonkers that we’re not even finished week 2 and there’s only one team that are unbeaten
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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:39 pm

France will slip up at some stage I reckon

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Post by Pete330v2 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:41 pm

Brendan wrote:Well done France.

Madness from Ireland with that kick.

There were a few kicks that made about 5m in the game by the wonderful JGP but that final, game ending rubbish just rounded things off. Disappointing end but France at home were always a task and a half but lately a bonus point is acceptable.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:41 pm

Kudos to Carberry. Farrell does have his 10 successor in place.
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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:41 pm

I think that game gave Ireland enough to think about and work on.  It's a tight game.  Attack under pressure needs to be worked on and how to adapt to the physical team needs to improve.

Wish Carty had been brought on after Ireland's last score to give him a chance to show what he can do.

Also think the scrum has been shown to not be top notch yet which is good to find out now and not get carried away. England away now needs to be a win or the AIs just show we are a great team at home and nothing more.

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Post by Collapse2005 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:44 pm

Pot Hale wrote:Kudos to Carberry.   Farrell does have his 10 successor in place.  

Thought he did alright but lots to improve on in particular in attack. He was very deep for much of the game.

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Post by Brendan Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:47 pm

Pete330v2 wrote:
Brendan wrote:Well done France.

Madness from Ireland with that kick.

There were a few kicks that made about 5m in the game by the wonderful JGP but that final, game ending rubbish just rounded things off. Disappointing end but France at home were always a task and a half but lately a bonus point is acceptable.

We didn't have a great kicking game and the wingers were struggling to compete for ball in the air. JGP has looked off on his kicking game over the two weekends and it was his 5/10m kick that lead to France's first try.

Not letting France getting the BP was important and keeping them to two tries was good.

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Post by tigertattie Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:51 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:France will slip up at some stage I reckon

It isn’t beyond the realms of belief that Scotland will beat them in 2 weeks time.

We’ll the get rogered by Ireland though
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Post by Geordie Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:56 pm

England could get royally humped by both of these....

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Post by Unclear Sat 12 Feb 2022, 6:58 pm

The box kicking and "contestable" kicks were poor. Keenan's clearance kicks were good though. We are going to need a similar or higher level of intensity at Twickenham as England are unlikely to go quietly.

Thought Porter did well even given the early scrum penalty, but today showed we don't have the best front row in the world ..... yet. They are very, very good, but still plenty of improvement possible. Sheehan had a great game, does this mean Ulster can have Herring back now?

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Post by westisbest Sat 12 Feb 2022, 7:16 pm

Collapse2005 wrote:France will slip up at some stage I reckon

I reckon they will win the next 3. A close win and then two convincing wins.

Disappointing result. Did very well to come back into it.
Should have gone for the corner at 27-21.

France looked good. Always a tough place to go.
Back to winking ways against Italy OK

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat 12 Feb 2022, 7:19 pm

Well after todays game their is only one team who could go on and win the Grand Slam that is France.

I know they still have to play England, Scotland, and Wales before they are declared Grand Slam champions. But unless those three teams really up their game i can not see any one stopping them.

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Post by Recwatcher16 Sat 12 Feb 2022, 7:37 pm

Good game to watch for the neutrals. That pass from Ntamack for Dupont to score was something else.
A lot of unforced errors by France kept Ireland in the game and Ireland didn't play badly but if France tidy that up, they will be a pretty scary prospect for the rest of the tournament and into the next world cup.

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Post by lostinwales Sat 12 Feb 2022, 8:45 pm

France still feel like a 60 minute team, although their subs did make a difference

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Post by profitius Sat 12 Feb 2022, 11:20 pm

Recwatcher16 wrote:Good game to watch for the neutrals. That pass from Ntamack for Dupont to score was something else.
A lot of unforced errors by France kept Ireland in the game and Ireland didn't play badly but if France tidy that up, they will be a pretty scary prospect for the rest of the tournament and into the next world cup.


I'll have to watch it back but on first viewing it felt like ireland made way more unforced errors than France. That might be my bias but there were some real blunders by ireland.
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