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2024 T20 World Cup
Just over a week away now from some glorious six-hitting in the cricketing heartlands of Barbados, Trinidad, Saint Lucia and, um, New York City.
England are defending the crown they won at the MCG in front of 80,000 people in November 2022. They'll probably be hoping it goes a bit better than their defence of the 50 over title! The tournament is, as T20 competitions are, very wide open. If England were to win it again they'd be the first men's team to win back to back World T20 titles in the history of the competition.
Chasing them keenly are the bookmakers favourites India, who are very, very thirsty because of a drought that has existed since 2013 in ICC tournaments. Australia will obviously be there or thereabouts, and there's plenty of excitement around the West Indies, twice winners of this competition, and how glorious it would be to see them lift a trophy at home.
Or perhaps South Africa will finally stop being Tottenham and actually win something? But it's T20. So it could be anyone. Ireland, Scotland, Uganda....USA?
I thought the format of the last couple of T20 World Cups was absolutely perfect. Naturally, then, the ICC have altered it for this year! So we've now got 20 teams, up from 16, and 55 matches in total, up from 45.
There's no preliminary round this time. All teams start off the same. Four groups of five teams. All play each other once. Top two in each group go through to the Super 8s. Super 8s is split into two groups of four. No points are carried over and all teams play each other once in the Super 8s. Top two in each Super 8 group go through to the semi-finals, from which it's a straight knockout. Means a team will play nine games if they are to lift the trophy, in comparison to England's seven games to win it in 2022.
One curious thing about the format, and the ICC love curious things (such as there being no reserve day for one semi-final), is that the finishing places in the initial group are seeded. For example, England are designated B1 in their group, and Australia are B2, which means that it's irrelevant if England come first or second. They will go through to Group 2 of the Super 8s regardless of finishing first or second. I suppose it guarantees certainty for fans, as they know where teams are playing after the initial group stage.
While I don't think it's been directly said, the draw was not a fair and open one. It took place behind closed doors and ensured India/Pakistan were in the same group, as well as some other long-standing rivalries, such as USA v Canada. I'm surprised the ICC didn't put India and Pakistan in the same Super 8 group as well! The groups are:
- Groups:
- Group A: Canada, India (A1), Ireland, Pakistan (A2), USA
Group B: Australia (B2), England (B1), Namibia, Oman, Scotland
Group C: Afghanistan, New Zealand (C1), Papua New Guinea, Uganda, West Indies (C2)
Group D: Bangladesh, Nepal, Netherlands, South Africa (D1), Sri Lanka (D2)
Super 8s
Group 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka
Group 2: Pakistan, England, West Indies, South Africa (presuming all goes to plan and no upsets happen!)
Another note: India will be playing in the second semi-final if they get there, because of TV times
The fixture list is all over the place with timings, so try and keep up! If you're in the UK, games can start at 01:30, or they might begin at 18:00, and quite a few matches seem to overlap in the early stages.
- Fixture List (All times BST):
- Sunday June 2
USA vs Canada - Grand Prairie, Texas (1.30am)
West Indies vs Papua New Guinea - Providence, Guyana (3.30pm)
Monday June 3
Namibia vs Oman - Bridgetown, Barbados (1.30am)
Sri Lanka vs South Africa - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 4
Afghanistan vs Uganda - Providence, Guyana (1.30am)
England vs Scotland - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
Netherlands vs Nepal - Grand Prairie, Texas (4.30pm)
Wednesday June 5
India vs Ireland - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Thursday June 6
Papua New Guinea vs Uganda - Providence, Guyana (12.30am)
Australia vs Oman - Bridgetown, Barbados (1.30am)
USA vs Pakistan - Grand Prairie, Texas (4.30pm)
Namibia vs Scotland - Bridgetown, Barbados (8pm)
Friday June 7
Canada vs Ireland - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Saturday June 8
New Zealand vs Afghanistan - Providence, Guyana (12.30am)
Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh - Grand Prairie, Texas (1.30am)
Netherlands vs South Africa - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Australia vs England - Bridgetown, Barbados (6pm)
Sunday June 9
West Indies vs Uganda - Providence, Guyana (1.30am)
India vs Pakistan - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Oman vs Scotland - North Sound, Antigua (6pm)
Monday June 10
South Africa vs Bangladesh - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 11
Pakistan vs Canada - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Wednesday June 12
Sri Lanka vs Nepal - Lauderhill, Florida (12.30am)
Australia vs Namibia - North Sound, Antigua (1.30am)
USA vs India - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Thursday June 13
West Indies vs New Zealand - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
Bangladesh vs Netherlands - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (3.30pm)
England vs Oman - North Sound, Antigua (8pm)
Friday June 14
Afghanistan vs Papua New Guinea - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
USA vs Ireland - Lauderhill, Florida (3.30pm)
Saturday June 15
South Africa vs Nepal - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (12.30am)
New Zealand vs Uganda - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
India vs Canada - Lauderhill, Florida (3.30pm)
Namibia vs England - North Sound, Antigua (6pm)
Sunday June 16
Australia vs Scotland - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
Pakistan vs Ireland - Lauderhill, Florida (3.30pm)
Monday June 17
Bangladesh vs Nepal - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (12.30am)
Sri Lanka vs Netherlands - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
New Zealand vs Papua New Guinea - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 18
West Indies vs Afghanistan - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
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Wednesday June 19
A2 vs D1 - North Sound, Antigua (3.30pm)
Thursday June 20
B1 vs C2 - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
C1 vs A1 - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
Friday June 21
B2 vs D2 - North Sound, Antigua (1.30am)
B1 vs D1 - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (3.30pm)
Saturday June 22
A2 vs C2 - Bridgetown, Barbados (1.30am)
A1 vs D2 - North Sound, Antigua (3.30pm)
Sunday June 23
C1 vs B2 - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (1.30am)
A2 vs B1 - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
Monday June 24
C2 vs D1 - North Sound, Antigua (1.30am)
B2 vs A1 - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 25
C1 vs D2 - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (1.30am)
Knockout stages
Thursday June 27
Semi-final #1 - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
Semi-final #2 - Providence, Guyana (3.30pm)
Saturday June 29
Final - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
- Squads (Not yet finalised):
- Group A
Canada
Saad Bin Zafar (captain), Aaron Johnson, Dilon Heyliger, Dilpreet Bajwa, Harsh Thaker, Jeremy Gordon, Junaid Siddiqui, Kaleem Sana, Kanwarpal Tathgur, Navneet Dhaliwal, Nicholas Kirton, Pargat Singh, Ravinderpal Singh, Rayyankhan Pathan, Shreyas Movva.
Reserves: Tajinder Singh, Aaditya Varadharajan, Ammar Khalid, Jatinder Matharu, Parveen Kumar.
India
Rohit Sharma (captain), Yashasvi Jaiswal, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Rishabh Pant, Sanju Samson, Hardik Pandya, Shivam Dube, Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Arshdeep Singh, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj.
Reserves: Shubman Gill, Rinku Singh, Khaleel Ahmed and Avesh Khan.
Ireland
Paul Stirling (captain), Mark Adair, Ross Adair, Andrew Balbirnie, Curtis Campher, Gareth Delany, George Dockrell, Graham Hume, Josh Little, Barry McCarthy, Neil Rock, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Ben White, Craig Young.
Pakistan
Yet to be announced
United States
Monank Patel (captain), Aaron Jones, Steven Taylor, Corey Anderson, Saurabh Netravalkar, Jessy Singh, Harmeet Singh, Nosthush Kenjige, Shadley Van Schalkwyk, Nitish Kumar, Andries Gous, Shayan Jahangir, Ali Khan, Nisarg Patel, Milind Kumar.
Reserves: Gajanand Singh, Juanoy Drysdale, Yasir Mohammad.
Group B
Australia
Mitchell Marsh (captain), Ashton Agar, Pat Cummins, Tim David, Nathan Ellis, Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Glenn Maxwell, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, Matthew Wade, David Warner, Adam Zampa.
Reserves: Jake Fraser-McGurk, Matt Short.
England
Jos Buttler (captain), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Harry Brook, Sam Curran, Ben Duckett, Tom Hartley, Will Jacks, Chris Jordan, Liam Livingstone, Adil Rashid, Phil Salt, Reece Topley, Mark Wood.
Namibia
Gerhard Erasmus (captain), Zane Green, Michael Van Lingen, Dylan Leicher, Ruben Trumpelmann, Jack Brassell, Ben Shikongo, Tangeni Lungameni, Niko Davin, JJ Smit, Jan Frylinck, JP Kotze, David Wiese, Bernard Scholtz, Malan Kruger, PD Blignaut.
Oman
Aqib Ilyas (captain), Zeeshan Maqsood, Kashyap Prajapati, Pratik Athavale, Ayaan Khan, Shoaib Khan, Mohammad Nadeem, Naseem Khushi, Mehran Khan, Bilal Khan, Rafiullah, Kaleemullah, Fayyaz Butt, Shakeel Ahmad.
Reserves: Jatinder Singh, Samay Shrivastava, Sufyan Mehmood, Jay Odedra.
Scotland
Richie Berrington (captain), Matthew Cross, Brad Currie, Chris Greaves, Oli Hairs, Jack Jarvis, Michael Jones, Michael Leask, Brandon McMullen, George Munsey, Safyaan Sharif, Chris Sole, Charlie Tear, Mark Watt, Brad Wheal.
Group C
Afghanistan
Rashid Khan (captain), Noor Ahmad, Fazalhaq Farooqi, Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Naveen-ul-Haq, Mohammad Ishaq, Karim Janat, Nangyal Kharoti, Fareed Ahmad Malik, Gulbadin Naib, Mohammad Nabi, Azmatullah Omarzai, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Ibrahim Zadran, Najibullah Zadran.
Reserves: Sediq Atal, Hazratullah Zazai, Saleem Safi.
New Zealand
Kane Williamson (captain), Finn Allen, Trent Boult, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Devon Conway, Lockie Ferguson, Matt Henry, Daryl Mitchell, Jimmy Neesham, Glenn Phillips, Rachin Ravindra, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee.
Reserve: Ben Sears.
Papua New Guinea
Assadollah Vala (captain), CJ Amini, Alei Nao, Chad Soper, Hila Vare, Hiri Hiri, Jack Gardner, John Kariko, Kabua Vagi Morea, Kipling Doriga, Lega Siaka, Norman Vanua, Sema Kamea, Sese Bau, Tony Ura.
Uganda
Brian Masaba (captain), Simon Ssesazi, Roger Mukasa, Cosmas Kyewuta, Dinesh Nakrani, Fred Achelam, Kenneth Waiswa, Alpesh Ramjani, Frank Nsubuga, Henry Ssenyondo, Bilal Hassun, Robinson Obuya, Riazat Ali Shah, Juma Miyaji, Ronak Patel.
Reserves: Innocent Mwebaze, Ronald Lutaaya
West Indies
Rovman Powell (captain), Alzarri Joseph, Johnson Charles, Roston Chase, Shimron Hetmyer, Jason Holder, Shai Hope, Akeal Hossain, Shamar Joseph, Brandon King, Gudakesh Motie, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Russell, Sherfane Rutherford, Romario Shepherd.
Group D
Bangladesh
Najmul Hossain Shanto (captain), Taskin Ahmed, Litton Das, Soumya Sarkar, Tanzid Hasan Tamim, Shakib Al Hasan, Tawhid Hridoy, Mahmudullah, Jaker Ali Anik, Tanvir Islam, Mahedi Hasan, Rishad Hossain, Mustafizur Rahman, Shoriful Islam, Tanzim Hasan Sakib.
Reserves: Afif Hossain, Hasan Mahmud.
Nepal
Rohit Paudel (captain), Aasif Sheikh, Anil Kumar Sah, Kushal Bhurtel, Kushal Malla, Dipendra Singh Airee, Lalit Rajbanshi, Karan KC, Gulshan Jha, Sompal Kami, Pratis GC, Sundeep Jora, Abinash Bohara, Sagar Dhakal, Kamal Singh Airee.
Netherlands
Scott Edwards (captain), Aryan Dutt, Bas de Leede, Daniel Doram, Fred Klaassen, Logan van Beek, Max O’Dowd, Michael Levitt, Paul van Meekeren, Sybrand Engelbrecht, Teja Nidamanuru, Tim Pringle, Vikram Singh, Viv Kingma, Wesley Barresi.
Reserve: Kyle Klein
South Africa
Aiden Markram (captain), Ottniel Baartman, Gerald Coetzee, Quinton de Kock, Bjorn Fortuin, Reeza Hendricks, Marco Jansen, Heinrich Klaasen, Keshav Maharaj, David Miller, Anrich Nortje, Kagiso Rabada, Ryan Rickelton, Tabraiz Shamsi, Tristan Stubbs.
Reserves: Nandre Burger and Lungi Ngidi.
Sri Lanka
Wanindu Hasaranga (captain), Charith Asalanka (vc), Kusal Mendis, Pathum Nissanka, Kamindu Mendis, Sadeera Samarawickrama, Angelo Mathews, Dasun Shanaka, Dhananjaya De Silva, Maheesh Theekshana, Dunith Wellalage, Dushmantha Chameera, Nuwan Thushara, Matheesha Pathirana, and Dilshan Madushanka
Reserves: Asitha Fernando, Vijayakanth Viyaskanth, Bhanuka Rajapaksa, and Janith Liyanage.
- Outright Odds (Bet365):
- India 11/4; Australia 7/2; England 9/2; South Africa 6/1; West Indies 9/1; New Zealand 10/1; Pakistan 12/1; Afghanistan 33/1; Sri Lanka 33/1; Bangladesh 80/1; Ireland 200/1; Netherlands 250/1; Namibia 400/1; PNG 500/1; Scotland 500/1; USA 750/1; Nepal 1000/1; Oman 1000/1; Canada 1000/1; Uganda 1500/1.
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Bilal Khan is the best Oman bowler by a distance, so if they're to chase this in 32 balls I'd expect 18 of them to come from him. This ought to be explosive. I wouldn't be surprised if half or more of that 48 comes in 6s if they really go for it.
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VTR wrote:GSC wrote:Australia about to call up Darren Pattinson for the Scotland game
Ha, also Bryce McGain to be drafted in to replacd Adam Zampa
In a cricketing world of mostly bland interviews, Michael Jones saying he hopes they open the bowling with Warner made me smile.
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All over in 3.1 overs and scoring 50 is better for NRR than scoring 48. Well done England. Very professional performance.
England's NRR goes from -1.800 to +3.081, well beyond Scotland.
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Jacks was a bit more wild the previous over. Just swinging as hard as he can. Somewhat understandable given the odd equation in front of them.
YJB finishes it off with a 4. Gives him a SR of 400 after one of the worst T20i knocks I've seen against Oz. Very Bairstow.
That takes them well past Scotland's NRR. Win against Namibia will mean that Scotland have to beat Australia. Or get a wash out in either game...
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VTR wrote:Well that was fairly amusing, but also a pathetic spectacle. Someone correct me but I think that now means England beating Namibia and Scotland losing to Australia puts England through regardless of run rates in those matches
I think NRR can come down even with a win, I profess to not fully understanding it, but I don't think it can go down by so much that England would miss out through beating Namibia.
So, yeah, beat Namibia and on to the Super Eights (unless Scotland beat Australia!).
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king_carlos wrote:22 from Bilal's second over. Very clean striking from Buttler.
Jacks was a bit more wild the previous over. Just swinging as hard as he can. Somewhat understandable given the odd equation in front of them.
YJB finishes it off with a 4. Gives him a SR of 400 after one of the worst T20i knocks I've seen against Oz. Very Bairstow.
That takes them well past Scotland's NRR. Win against Namibia will mean that Scotland have to beat Australia. Or get a wash out in either game...
Weather looking good for both games, thankfully. Grateful it's not in Florida!
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Then tomorrow afternoon the USA v Ireland. USA just need a point, or two, to get through to the next stage, otherwise the door is wide open for Pakistan. The forecast, fortunately for the USA, is very bad, with Cricinfo saying that 'It'll need a miracle even for the curators to simply have a look at the surface underneath,' with flood warnings throughout Florida.
If the rain does hit, and Afghanistan net the win over PNG, that's making the rest of this initial group stage look rather drab. It would mean that this time tomorrow three of the groups would be pretty much resolved, with just England/Scotland to sort out the final placing. And the Super Eights don't begin until Wednesday, so a fair few meaningless games to sift through first.
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KP_fan wrote:Duty281 wrote:Cricinfo have also thrown some light on to the extent of England's task:
If Scotland lose to Australia by 20 runs (say, chasing 161), England will have to win their last two games, against Oman and Namibia, by a combined margin of at least 94 runs to go ahead of Scotland on run rate.
I would expect Eng to rather comfortably get the 94 run margin.
Actually they may be able to get that margin in a single game..........it's Oman & Namibia
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Super Eights currently looking like this:
Group 1 - India, Australia, Afghanistan, Bangladesh
Group 2 - USA or Pakistan, England or Scotland, West Indies, South Africa
Presumably Australia will be forfeiting against Afghanistan (
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Duty281 wrote:king_carlos wrote:22 from Bilal's second over. Very clean striking from Buttler.
Jacks was a bit more wild the previous over. Just swinging as hard as he can. Somewhat understandable given the odd equation in front of them.
YJB finishes it off with a 4. Gives him a SR of 400 after one of the worst T20i knocks I've seen against Oz. Very Bairstow.
That takes them well past Scotland's NRR. Win against Namibia will mean that Scotland have to beat Australia. Or get a wash out in either game...
Weather looking good for both games, thankfully. Grateful it's not in Florida!
A pity the weather seems to be having such influence in this WC. Anyone would think it was being held in Manchester
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But seriously , hope those predictions for WI weather hold so England aren't pushed out (other than by a well earned Scottish win over Australia !) At the same time , it might be a little rough on Pakistan if the rain kills their hopes - but (A) They have been saved by rain in previous WCs so fair is fair ; and (B) Would be good for cricket in USA if the home team progressed - so not so motivated to call for dry days there.
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Did it mean much overall though ? I mean , it was Oman. However : different pitch , couple of games under their belt , (correct) selection of Topley (and no silly giving the new ball to Jacks !) saw the bowlers look a completely different bunch from the previous outings. OK you have to take opposition limitations into account ; but I don't think Australia would have made 200 against the attack on display this time.
And the bats did the business very neatly . Again : no pressure - and it was Oman. Let us see how they handle Namibia first ; but I fancy there will be a lot more confidence in the camp now ... and if they can go on to the next stage with another good performance then (as in Australia last time) they have to be a chance . One game at a time , eh ?
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At the same time , it makes perfect sense to rest players as and when needed and this is a good time. While the players may quite reasonably and totally unintentionally be just a little less committed. However , with all due respect to the Scots , I think Australia will be far too strong. They certainly won't want to spoil a winning habit ahead of the next stage. And I doubt they are that bothered about England progressing since they won't have to meet them again , if at all , until a lot later - when whoever is the opponent is going to be a side in some good form...
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alfie wrote:Duty281 wrote:king_carlos wrote:22 from Bilal's second over. Very clean striking from Buttler.
Jacks was a bit more wild the previous over. Just swinging as hard as he can. Somewhat understandable given the odd equation in front of them.
YJB finishes it off with a 4. Gives him a SR of 400 after one of the worst T20i knocks I've seen against Oz. Very Bairstow.
That takes them well past Scotland's NRR. Win against Namibia will mean that Scotland have to beat Australia. Or get a wash out in either game...
Weather looking good for both games, thankfully. Grateful it's not in Florida!
A pity the weather seems to be having such influence in this WC. Anyone would think it was being held in Manchester![]()
But seriously , hope those predictions for WI weather hold so England aren't pushed out (other than by a well earned Scottish win over Australia !) At the same time , it might be a little rough on Pakistan if the rain kills their hopes - but (A) They have been saved by rain in previous WCs so fair is fair ; and (B) Would be good for cricket in USA if the home team progressed - so not so motivated to call for dry days there.
If the USA's game gets rained off I don't think it would be terribly unfair on Pakistan, as they did lose to the USA. Bit different if Scotland's game v Australia is washed out, as Scotland and England didn't get a result.
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wisden wrote:England's bowlers just had too much pace for Oman, a lot of them backed away they didn't fancy it at all....Rashid had the ball ragging was a complete mis-match.....Can see USA turning over Ireland today!
Yeah, I saw the Oman captain say his side didn't have much experience in dealing with the pace of Wood, Archer and Topley, so perhaps not a surprise they were so routed.
Still odds against a game being played between USA and Ireland, but they have apparently had a few dry hours in Florida.
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Presumably Australia will be forfeiting against Afghanistan (), so will be quite tough for the Aussies to squeeze through.
Can't expect the Aussies to have a stance when it actually matters Duty, cmon now...
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alfie wrote:Also pleased to see Cummins making a point of stating he would never contemplate "fixing" qualification by playing dead against Scotland. It was actually pretty obvious that Hazlewood was just embarking on a bit of a wind-up ; and Tim Paine's "semi-serious" suggestion that it might be a good idea to take a bit of a holiday in order to see England eliminated can be seen in the same light : but in the extreme unlikelihood of an upset - or even a very near upset - by Scotland , it would not have been a good look if the skipper hadn't killed off that talk in advance.
At the same time , it makes perfect sense to rest players as and when needed and this is a good time. While the players may quite reasonably and totally unintentionally be just a little less committed. However , with all due respect to the Scots , I think Australia will be far too strong. They certainly won't want to spoil a winning habit ahead of the next stage. And I doubt they are that bothered about England progressing since they won't have to meet them again , if at all , until a lot later - when whoever is the opponent is going to be a side in some good form...
Australia have never lost to an non-Test status nation as well. As seen against Oman, high pace can often be decisive in these games. Australia pretty much always have that in one form or another. Scotland are a decent team but Australia are a very good, should have too much power in their batting and bowling.
Being pedantic, Cummins isn't actually skipper here. He's still very key part of that setup though. I'm expecting Cummins to potentially rest after his IPL workload - Nathan Ellis is a very good T20 bowler though. The 'weakest' the other changes could make them would be Green for Head and Agar for Zampa. They should still have far too much.
Hazlewood's comments seemed tongue in cheek from a guy who's pretty dry anyway. Journalists suddenly had 3 days where they needed to write about England vs Oman though. So it was absolute music to their ears. Similar to Duckett's nonsense recently that was feasted on by journalists when they needed copy. When you actually watch the interviews, it seems pretty clear that Duckett is knowingly doing a bit of a pantomime act.
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VTR wrote:It's amazing really to think that Jofra Archer is a better opening bowler than Will Jacks! Does seem like the right team now, only doubts are what the purpose of Bairstow and maybe Livingstone in the team are, though its not like they are keeping a host of world class replacements out.
I can't see them dropping Bairstow. I would if the conditions are looking likely to spin. He used to smash wrist-spin in particular. His record with the ball turning away from bat was very good in general though. His attempts to hit Zampa were genuinely dire though. He just doesn't look the same athlete.
Livi and Surran are odd ones. Surran bowls seam and hits spin better. Livi bowls spin and hits seam better. So it's difficult to line them up with conditions. If it's a slow turner, you'd want Livi's bowling but Surran's batting. If it's going to be quicker then you want Livi's batting and Surran's bowling. I'd lean towards Livi even though he's been flattering to deceive as an international batter for a long while now. Surran's bowling record is best in the PP by a mile. I'd still prefer Topley and Jof to be our seamers up top though.
I'd still consider Jordan ahead of Wood depending on conditions.
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Means the USA are through, congratulations to them. Pakistan, Ireland and Canada can all leave via the exit.
10 group games left, but only three are of any relevance. England v Namibia, Australia v Scotland, and Bangladesh v Nepal. The rest are ultimately irrelevant (unless Bangladesh lose, we can add SL v Ned as a relevant game, but that's highly unlikely), so it could be a few days of mostly waiting until the tournament picks up again.
(Actually, Cricinfo change their mind, this one isn't quite called off yet)
Now called off after further rain. Umpires really gave it every chance.
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Eng,SA, WI & USA...relatively easier group
everyone beats USA + win 1 more and you are thru
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But : 1 run win over Nepal ; 4 run win over Bangladesh , 7 balls to spare beating Netherlands (after recovering from 12/4) : apart from thrashing Sri Lanka they have been surviving by inches. Does this indicate : (a) They aren't too good (b) They have developed some very cool heads in a crisis (c) They are practising for the inevitable "choke moment" in the semi-final ?
Seriously , it is hard to get a handle on them from this first group stage. On paper they look pretty handy so will be interesting to see how they cope with the presumably tougher second group. They'll certainly hope they haven't used up their luck quotient from these close ones...
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Means Nepal are officially out. But maybe they can upset Bangladesh and give the Dutch a chance? Maybe. Certainly has been an odd tournament from SA. 4-0, but as Alfie notes, could easily be 1-3 and hometime.
And NZ smashed Uganda, bowling them out for 40, but all too late for NZ. Uganda and PNG have been utterly out of their depth in this competition, so I'm not sure on the wisdom of expanding to 20 teams. Having said that, Uganda upset Zimbabwe to get here, so if it had been Zimbabwe I wouldn't be questioning the expansion to 20 teams.
But look at Uganda's batting. 58ao, 78/7, 39 and 40. Ouch.
England later and Scotland/Aus in the early hours.
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KP_fan wrote:How did Nepal come to within a run of beating SA![]()
Shows that we can't assume that England are through. No one saw this one coming, and Nepal pretty much choked, which is understandable.
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Duty281 wrote:VTR wrote:Well that was fairly amusing, but also a pathetic spectacle. Someone correct me but I think that now means England beating Namibia and Scotland losing to Australia puts England through regardless of run rates in those matches
I think NRR can come down even with a win, I profess to not fully understanding it, but I don't think it can go down by so much that England would miss out through beating Namibia.
So, yeah, beat Namibia and on to the Super Eights (unless Scotland beat Australia!).
The BBC have speculated on the type of scenario where England win and Scotland lose, but Scotland still go through on NRR.
There are unlikely scenarios where Scotland go through despite losing and England winning, but it would require something like Richie Berrington’s side scoring 200 in defeat by Australia and England taking all 120 balls to chase a target below 100.
So it's possible, but about as possible as me winning the lottery. And I don't play the lottery.
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Forecast looking fine for England and Scotland's games, but we all know how unpredictable the rain can be in the Caribbean!
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And, oh dear, currently raining hard in Antigua. But over an hour until play should start.
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One of those days? Going to be very rotten if England get eliminated based on two rain dominated matches.
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21:45 the approximate cut off for a five over thrashathon.
I don't think we'll get a game. Puddles everywhere on the outfield.
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KP_fan wrote:India, BD, Afg & Aus.....difficult group all can beat all
Eng,SA, WI & USA...relatively easier group
everyone beats USA + win 1 more and you are thru
That relatively easier group is about to become a cake-walk entry for SA &WI into semis
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hope it dries out enuf and rain does not return
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Can't be mad if England go out like this. Just a twist of fate.
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I have seen some grounds in England dry insanely fast after heavy rain. The state of the art drainage in the best grounds is really impressive in that regard. No idea what drainage is like here though.
And it's raining again anyway.
Going out a tournament because 2 of your 4 group games get rained off is brutal. As an England fan, it's coming hot on the heels of the Old Trafford Test as well. F**k this.
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Have to say this tournament has been ridiculously impacted by the weather , in both host country locations. With this rather overdone number of games I guess it was impossible to schedule spare days ; but it does make a mockery of it as a proper competition. Raises the question of whether it really makes sense to have a 20 team tournament ; because this sort of weather mess could easily happen in Australia , NZ , UK - anywhere except India
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We'll see what impact rain has on the Super Eights, because the tournament risks entering a farce if a good chunk of those games played across seven days are rained off. And let's not talk about one of the semi finals which doesn't have a reserve day...!
Still got about two hours left to live in mindless optimism.
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Suppose Italy v Albania will kick off soon - though that doesn't sound like the Match of the Day exactly...
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Unfortunate for England but that's how it goes
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