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2024 T20 World Cup
First topic message reminder :
Just over a week away now from some glorious six-hitting in the cricketing heartlands of Barbados, Trinidad, Saint Lucia and, um, New York City.
England are defending the crown they won at the MCG in front of 80,000 people in November 2022. They'll probably be hoping it goes a bit better than their defence of the 50 over title! The tournament is, as T20 competitions are, very wide open. If England were to win it again they'd be the first men's team to win back to back World T20 titles in the history of the competition.
Chasing them keenly are the bookmakers favourites India, who are very, very thirsty because of a drought that has existed since 2013 in ICC tournaments. Australia will obviously be there or thereabouts, and there's plenty of excitement around the West Indies, twice winners of this competition, and how glorious it would be to see them lift a trophy at home.
Or perhaps South Africa will finally stop being Tottenham and actually win something? But it's T20. So it could be anyone. Ireland, Scotland, Uganda....USA?
I thought the format of the last couple of T20 World Cups was absolutely perfect. Naturally, then, the ICC have altered it for this year! So we've now got 20 teams, up from 16, and 55 matches in total, up from 45.
There's no preliminary round this time. All teams start off the same. Four groups of five teams. All play each other once. Top two in each group go through to the Super 8s. Super 8s is split into two groups of four. No points are carried over and all teams play each other once in the Super 8s. Top two in each Super 8 group go through to the semi-finals, from which it's a straight knockout. Means a team will play nine games if they are to lift the trophy, in comparison to England's seven games to win it in 2022.
One curious thing about the format, and the ICC love curious things (such as there being no reserve day for one semi-final), is that the finishing places in the initial group are seeded. For example, England are designated B1 in their group, and Australia are B2, which means that it's irrelevant if England come first or second. They will go through to Group 2 of the Super 8s regardless of finishing first or second. I suppose it guarantees certainty for fans, as they know where teams are playing after the initial group stage.
While I don't think it's been directly said, the draw was not a fair and open one. It took place behind closed doors and ensured India/Pakistan were in the same group, as well as some other long-standing rivalries, such as USA v Canada. I'm surprised the ICC didn't put India and Pakistan in the same Super 8 group as well! The groups are:
The fixture list is all over the place with timings, so try and keep up! If you're in the UK, games can start at 01:30, or they might begin at 18:00, and quite a few matches seem to overlap in the early stages.
The USA and Canada will be starting this one off in Texas. That's the most unlikely cricket sentence ever uttered.
Just over a week away now from some glorious six-hitting in the cricketing heartlands of Barbados, Trinidad, Saint Lucia and, um, New York City.
England are defending the crown they won at the MCG in front of 80,000 people in November 2022. They'll probably be hoping it goes a bit better than their defence of the 50 over title! The tournament is, as T20 competitions are, very wide open. If England were to win it again they'd be the first men's team to win back to back World T20 titles in the history of the competition.
Chasing them keenly are the bookmakers favourites India, who are very, very thirsty because of a drought that has existed since 2013 in ICC tournaments. Australia will obviously be there or thereabouts, and there's plenty of excitement around the West Indies, twice winners of this competition, and how glorious it would be to see them lift a trophy at home.
Or perhaps South Africa will finally stop being Tottenham and actually win something? But it's T20. So it could be anyone. Ireland, Scotland, Uganda....USA?
I thought the format of the last couple of T20 World Cups was absolutely perfect. Naturally, then, the ICC have altered it for this year! So we've now got 20 teams, up from 16, and 55 matches in total, up from 45.
There's no preliminary round this time. All teams start off the same. Four groups of five teams. All play each other once. Top two in each group go through to the Super 8s. Super 8s is split into two groups of four. No points are carried over and all teams play each other once in the Super 8s. Top two in each Super 8 group go through to the semi-finals, from which it's a straight knockout. Means a team will play nine games if they are to lift the trophy, in comparison to England's seven games to win it in 2022.
One curious thing about the format, and the ICC love curious things (such as there being no reserve day for one semi-final), is that the finishing places in the initial group are seeded. For example, England are designated B1 in their group, and Australia are B2, which means that it's irrelevant if England come first or second. They will go through to Group 2 of the Super 8s regardless of finishing first or second. I suppose it guarantees certainty for fans, as they know where teams are playing after the initial group stage.
While I don't think it's been directly said, the draw was not a fair and open one. It took place behind closed doors and ensured India/Pakistan were in the same group, as well as some other long-standing rivalries, such as USA v Canada. I'm surprised the ICC didn't put India and Pakistan in the same Super 8 group as well! The groups are:
- Groups:
- Group A: Canada, India (A1), Ireland, Pakistan (A2), USA
Group B: Australia (B2), England (B1), Namibia, Oman, Scotland
Group C: Afghanistan, New Zealand (C1), Papua New Guinea, Uganda, West Indies (C2)
Group D: Bangladesh, Nepal, Netherlands, South Africa (D1), Sri Lanka (D2)
Super 8s
Group 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, Sri Lanka
Group 2: Pakistan, England, West Indies, South Africa (presuming all goes to plan and no upsets happen!)
Another note: India will be playing in the second semi-final if they get there, because of TV times
The fixture list is all over the place with timings, so try and keep up! If you're in the UK, games can start at 01:30, or they might begin at 18:00, and quite a few matches seem to overlap in the early stages.
- Fixture List (All times BST):
- Sunday June 2
USA vs Canada - Grand Prairie, Texas (1.30am)
West Indies vs Papua New Guinea - Providence, Guyana (3.30pm)
Monday June 3
Namibia vs Oman - Bridgetown, Barbados (1.30am)
Sri Lanka vs South Africa - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 4
Afghanistan vs Uganda - Providence, Guyana (1.30am)
England vs Scotland - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
Netherlands vs Nepal - Grand Prairie, Texas (4.30pm)
Wednesday June 5
India vs Ireland - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Thursday June 6
Papua New Guinea vs Uganda - Providence, Guyana (12.30am)
Australia vs Oman - Bridgetown, Barbados (1.30am)
USA vs Pakistan - Grand Prairie, Texas (4.30pm)
Namibia vs Scotland - Bridgetown, Barbados (8pm)
Friday June 7
Canada vs Ireland - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Saturday June 8
New Zealand vs Afghanistan - Providence, Guyana (12.30am)
Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh - Grand Prairie, Texas (1.30am)
Netherlands vs South Africa - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Australia vs England - Bridgetown, Barbados (6pm)
Sunday June 9
West Indies vs Uganda - Providence, Guyana (1.30am)
India vs Pakistan - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Oman vs Scotland - North Sound, Antigua (6pm)
Monday June 10
South Africa vs Bangladesh - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 11
Pakistan vs Canada - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Wednesday June 12
Sri Lanka vs Nepal - Lauderhill, Florida (12.30am)
Australia vs Namibia - North Sound, Antigua (1.30am)
USA vs India - Long Island, New York (3.30pm)
Thursday June 13
West Indies vs New Zealand - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
Bangladesh vs Netherlands - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (3.30pm)
England vs Oman - North Sound, Antigua (8pm)
Friday June 14
Afghanistan vs Papua New Guinea - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
USA vs Ireland - Lauderhill, Florida (3.30pm)
Saturday June 15
South Africa vs Nepal - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (12.30am)
New Zealand vs Uganda - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
India vs Canada - Lauderhill, Florida (3.30pm)
Namibia vs England - North Sound, Antigua (6pm)
Sunday June 16
Australia vs Scotland - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
Pakistan vs Ireland - Lauderhill, Florida (3.30pm)
Monday June 17
Bangladesh vs Nepal - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (12.30am)
Sri Lanka vs Netherlands - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
New Zealand vs Papua New Guinea - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 18
West Indies vs Afghanistan - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
T20 World Cup - full Super 8s fixtures
Wednesday June 19
A2 vs D1 - North Sound, Antigua (3.30pm)
Thursday June 20
B1 vs C2 - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (1.30am)
C1 vs A1 - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
Friday June 21
B2 vs D2 - North Sound, Antigua (1.30am)
B1 vs D1 - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (3.30pm)
Saturday June 22
A2 vs C2 - Bridgetown, Barbados (1.30am)
A1 vs D2 - North Sound, Antigua (3.30pm)
Sunday June 23
C1 vs B2 - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (1.30am)
A2 vs B1 - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
Monday June 24
C2 vs D1 - North Sound, Antigua (1.30am)
B2 vs A1 - Gros Islet, Saint Lucia (3.30pm)
Tuesday June 25
C1 vs D2 - Kingstown, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (1.30am)
Knockout stages
Thursday June 27
Semi-final #1 - Tarouba, Trinidad and Tobago (1.30am)
Semi-final #2 - Providence, Guyana (3.30pm)
Saturday June 29
Final - Bridgetown, Barbados (3.30pm)
- Squads (Not yet finalised):
- Group A
Canada
Saad Bin Zafar (captain), Aaron Johnson, Dilon Heyliger, Dilpreet Bajwa, Harsh Thaker, Jeremy Gordon, Junaid Siddiqui, Kaleem Sana, Kanwarpal Tathgur, Navneet Dhaliwal, Nicholas Kirton, Pargat Singh, Ravinderpal Singh, Rayyankhan Pathan, Shreyas Movva.
Reserves: Tajinder Singh, Aaditya Varadharajan, Ammar Khalid, Jatinder Matharu, Parveen Kumar.
India
Rohit Sharma (captain), Yashasvi Jaiswal, Virat Kohli, Suryakumar Yadav, Rishabh Pant, Sanju Samson, Hardik Pandya, Shivam Dube, Ravindra Jadeja, Axar Patel, Kuldeep Yadav, Yuzvendra Chahal, Arshdeep Singh, Jasprit Bumrah, Mohammed Siraj.
Reserves: Shubman Gill, Rinku Singh, Khaleel Ahmed and Avesh Khan.
Ireland
Paul Stirling (captain), Mark Adair, Ross Adair, Andrew Balbirnie, Curtis Campher, Gareth Delany, George Dockrell, Graham Hume, Josh Little, Barry McCarthy, Neil Rock, Harry Tector, Lorcan Tucker, Ben White, Craig Young.
Pakistan
Yet to be announced
United States
Monank Patel (captain), Aaron Jones, Steven Taylor, Corey Anderson, Saurabh Netravalkar, Jessy Singh, Harmeet Singh, Nosthush Kenjige, Shadley Van Schalkwyk, Nitish Kumar, Andries Gous, Shayan Jahangir, Ali Khan, Nisarg Patel, Milind Kumar.
Reserves: Gajanand Singh, Juanoy Drysdale, Yasir Mohammad.
Group B
Australia
Mitchell Marsh (captain), Ashton Agar, Pat Cummins, Tim David, Nathan Ellis, Cameron Green, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Josh Inglis, Glenn Maxwell, Mitchell Starc, Marcus Stoinis, Matthew Wade, David Warner, Adam Zampa.
Reserves: Jake Fraser-McGurk, Matt Short.
England
Jos Buttler (captain), Moeen Ali, Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow, Harry Brook, Sam Curran, Ben Duckett, Tom Hartley, Will Jacks, Chris Jordan, Liam Livingstone, Adil Rashid, Phil Salt, Reece Topley, Mark Wood.
Namibia
Gerhard Erasmus (captain), Zane Green, Michael Van Lingen, Dylan Leicher, Ruben Trumpelmann, Jack Brassell, Ben Shikongo, Tangeni Lungameni, Niko Davin, JJ Smit, Jan Frylinck, JP Kotze, David Wiese, Bernard Scholtz, Malan Kruger, PD Blignaut.
Oman
Aqib Ilyas (captain), Zeeshan Maqsood, Kashyap Prajapati, Pratik Athavale, Ayaan Khan, Shoaib Khan, Mohammad Nadeem, Naseem Khushi, Mehran Khan, Bilal Khan, Rafiullah, Kaleemullah, Fayyaz Butt, Shakeel Ahmad.
Reserves: Jatinder Singh, Samay Shrivastava, Sufyan Mehmood, Jay Odedra.
Scotland
Richie Berrington (captain), Matthew Cross, Brad Currie, Chris Greaves, Oli Hairs, Jack Jarvis, Michael Jones, Michael Leask, Brandon McMullen, George Munsey, Safyaan Sharif, Chris Sole, Charlie Tear, Mark Watt, Brad Wheal.
Group C
Afghanistan
Rashid Khan (captain), Noor Ahmad, Fazalhaq Farooqi, Rahmanullah Gurbaz, Naveen-ul-Haq, Mohammad Ishaq, Karim Janat, Nangyal Kharoti, Fareed Ahmad Malik, Gulbadin Naib, Mohammad Nabi, Azmatullah Omarzai, Mujeeb Ur Rahman, Ibrahim Zadran, Najibullah Zadran.
Reserves: Sediq Atal, Hazratullah Zazai, Saleem Safi.
New Zealand
Kane Williamson (captain), Finn Allen, Trent Boult, Michael Bracewell, Mark Chapman, Devon Conway, Lockie Ferguson, Matt Henry, Daryl Mitchell, Jimmy Neesham, Glenn Phillips, Rachin Ravindra, Mitchell Santner, Ish Sodhi, Tim Southee.
Reserve: Ben Sears.
Papua New Guinea
Assadollah Vala (captain), CJ Amini, Alei Nao, Chad Soper, Hila Vare, Hiri Hiri, Jack Gardner, John Kariko, Kabua Vagi Morea, Kipling Doriga, Lega Siaka, Norman Vanua, Sema Kamea, Sese Bau, Tony Ura.
Uganda
Brian Masaba (captain), Simon Ssesazi, Roger Mukasa, Cosmas Kyewuta, Dinesh Nakrani, Fred Achelam, Kenneth Waiswa, Alpesh Ramjani, Frank Nsubuga, Henry Ssenyondo, Bilal Hassun, Robinson Obuya, Riazat Ali Shah, Juma Miyaji, Ronak Patel.
Reserves: Innocent Mwebaze, Ronald Lutaaya
West Indies
Rovman Powell (captain), Alzarri Joseph, Johnson Charles, Roston Chase, Shimron Hetmyer, Jason Holder, Shai Hope, Akeal Hossain, Shamar Joseph, Brandon King, Gudakesh Motie, Nicholas Pooran, Andre Russell, Sherfane Rutherford, Romario Shepherd.
Group D
Bangladesh
Najmul Hossain Shanto (captain), Taskin Ahmed, Litton Das, Soumya Sarkar, Tanzid Hasan Tamim, Shakib Al Hasan, Tawhid Hridoy, Mahmudullah, Jaker Ali Anik, Tanvir Islam, Mahedi Hasan, Rishad Hossain, Mustafizur Rahman, Shoriful Islam, Tanzim Hasan Sakib.
Reserves: Afif Hossain, Hasan Mahmud.
Nepal
Rohit Paudel (captain), Aasif Sheikh, Anil Kumar Sah, Kushal Bhurtel, Kushal Malla, Dipendra Singh Airee, Lalit Rajbanshi, Karan KC, Gulshan Jha, Sompal Kami, Pratis GC, Sundeep Jora, Abinash Bohara, Sagar Dhakal, Kamal Singh Airee.
Netherlands
Scott Edwards (captain), Aryan Dutt, Bas de Leede, Daniel Doram, Fred Klaassen, Logan van Beek, Max O’Dowd, Michael Levitt, Paul van Meekeren, Sybrand Engelbrecht, Teja Nidamanuru, Tim Pringle, Vikram Singh, Viv Kingma, Wesley Barresi.
Reserve: Kyle Klein
South Africa
Aiden Markram (captain), Ottniel Baartman, Gerald Coetzee, Quinton de Kock, Bjorn Fortuin, Reeza Hendricks, Marco Jansen, Heinrich Klaasen, Keshav Maharaj, David Miller, Anrich Nortje, Kagiso Rabada, Ryan Rickelton, Tabraiz Shamsi, Tristan Stubbs.
Reserves: Nandre Burger and Lungi Ngidi.
Sri Lanka
Wanindu Hasaranga (captain), Charith Asalanka (vc), Kusal Mendis, Pathum Nissanka, Kamindu Mendis, Sadeera Samarawickrama, Angelo Mathews, Dasun Shanaka, Dhananjaya De Silva, Maheesh Theekshana, Dunith Wellalage, Dushmantha Chameera, Nuwan Thushara, Matheesha Pathirana, and Dilshan Madushanka
Reserves: Asitha Fernando, Vijayakanth Viyaskanth, Bhanuka Rajapaksa, and Janith Liyanage.
- Outright Odds (Bet365):
- India 11/4; Australia 7/2; England 9/2; South Africa 6/1; West Indies 9/1; New Zealand 10/1; Pakistan 12/1; Afghanistan 33/1; Sri Lanka 33/1; Bangladesh 80/1; Ireland 200/1; Netherlands 250/1; Namibia 400/1; PNG 500/1; Scotland 500/1; USA 750/1; Nepal 1000/1; Oman 1000/1; Canada 1000/1; Uganda 1500/1.
The USA and Canada will be starting this one off in Texas. That's the most unlikely cricket sentence ever uttered.
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Argh. Buttler goes after such a good over from Arshdeep.
That's huge. On a pitch where spin will play such a key role, Buttler is an even bigger wicket than usual.
Moeen in to target the SLA. Please actually target it then Mo... There's no point putting a pinch hitter up if he plays like a pinch strike rotator.
That's huge. On a pitch where spin will play such a key role, Buttler is an even bigger wicket than usual.
Moeen in to target the SLA. Please actually target it then Mo... There's no point putting a pinch hitter up if he plays like a pinch strike rotator.
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Oh dear. Bairstow gets a 3 ball duck.
England in a world of trouble.
It's going to take something miraculous from Brook to get anywhere near.
England in a world of trouble.
It's going to take something miraculous from Brook to get anywhere near.
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Buttler was looking in good touch, but fell. Salt played an ugly shot. Those were the key men.
As I've already said, Bairstow is finished. No idea why England are persisting with him. Moeen at 3. Brainless again.
Unless Brook can mastermind something, this is done.
As I've already said, Bairstow is finished. No idea why England are persisting with him. Moeen at 3. Brainless again.
Unless Brook can mastermind something, this is done.
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Well that sums it all up.
Moeen averaged 14 with the bat at this World Cup, but the England management decided that meant he was a 3.![Doh](/users/3014/26/22/82/smiles/56390.gif)
Moeen averaged 14 with the bat at this World Cup, but the England management decided that meant he was a 3.
![Doh](/users/3014/26/22/82/smiles/56390.gif)
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I fear that Rohit had played one of his innings where he looks like he's on a different track.
It's certainly feeling that way at the moment!
Oh, dear. Comical. Moeen stumped off a wide. When it isn't your day, it really isn't your day.
It shouldn't make any difference from here, but, I'd rather Surran came in that Livi at this point given. Hey, it is Curran! Everything's going to be OK...
It's certainly feeling that way at the moment!
Oh, dear. Comical. Moeen stumped off a wide. When it isn't your day, it really isn't your day.
It shouldn't make any difference from here, but, I'd rather Surran came in that Livi at this point given. Hey, it is Curran! Everything's going to be OK...
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3 of the 4 wickets have fallen from the first ball of an over. Doesn't mean much, I accept. But it just struck me when looking back through.
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4 of the 5 wickets have fallen from the first ball of an over. Doesn't mean much, I accept. But it just struck me when looking back through.
That's plumb. Always going to review in the situation. It's absolutely stone dead though.
Disappointing watch for an England fan but India have been fantastic with the ball after a very good batting innings.
That's plumb. Always going to review in the situation. It's absolutely stone dead though.
Disappointing watch for an England fan but India have been fantastic with the ball after a very good batting innings.
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That's another first baller.
Heavy defeat this. Hope making the semi-finals doesn't cover up the reality that England's record is 1-3 against the top nations at this World Cup, with (looking like) two big defeats. Time for a change at the top after a rubbish 9 or so months of limited overs cricket.
Heavy defeat this. Hope making the semi-finals doesn't cover up the reality that England's record is 1-3 against the top nations at this World Cup, with (looking like) two big defeats. Time for a change at the top after a rubbish 9 or so months of limited overs cricket.
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New viewers might be forgiven to think test series is continuing
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England not at the races today. Did suspect the Indian total was way over par ...and against this bowling attack never getting near it. They've not batted well but obviously came out thinking they needed to get their runs early...but apart from Arshdeep there is no one to target in this Indian attack Brook is sensibly starting in measured style but he's almost out of partners already so I'm not expecting a Stokes type miracle...
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It doesn't matter now, but I can't believe how idiotic England have been to persist with this lack of batting depth.
They got a fair warning v South Africa, but continued with this balance. Moeen at 3. Sticking with Bairstow. Brook at 5. All nonsensical.
They got a fair warning v South Africa, but continued with this balance. Moeen at 3. Sticking with Bairstow. Brook at 5. All nonsensical.
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Anyway this should end soon so I can get to bed before sunrise...Congrats to India , and for all I'd have loved to see England make it through it is clear the two best teams are in the final.. which should be a cracker.
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Moeen at 3 and not bowling on a spinning wicket is definitely nonsense. Probably not made any difference though, that was a very patchy bowling performance, and 170 looked and is proving to be far too much to chase
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Brook goes. Another smart bit of bowling by Kuldeep. Invites Brook to go for the sweep again but brings it slightly straighter and quicker. He's developed into a excellent bowler since adding that bit more pace.
It's been a terrific performance from India to be fair. Beaten by a better team. It's as simple as that sometimes.
A few players who might be at the end or very close to the end of their England stories though. This is surely it for Mo. Bairstow may well be dropped from the Test team for summer by the sounds of rumours. Jordan is 35.
Livi has been flattering to deceive with the bat for a while but his useful spin might keep him around for a bit yet.
Will Mark Wood play much more white ball cricket for England? Surely from here they concentrate on nursing him through the 5 Tests with India next summer and the Ashes down under.
This era of England's white ball team ending with a whimper rather than a flourish. It does feel like 1 CWC and 1 T20 World Cup is unders for how good they were at points. Australia have the same returns and their white ball program in that time has consisted of just rocking up at tournaments, picking the familiar suspects and seeing what the f**k might happen if they get to the KO stages.
It's been a terrific performance from India to be fair. Beaten by a better team. It's as simple as that sometimes.
A few players who might be at the end or very close to the end of their England stories though. This is surely it for Mo. Bairstow may well be dropped from the Test team for summer by the sounds of rumours. Jordan is 35.
Livi has been flattering to deceive with the bat for a while but his useful spin might keep him around for a bit yet.
Will Mark Wood play much more white ball cricket for England? Surely from here they concentrate on nursing him through the 5 Tests with India next summer and the Ashes down under.
This era of England's white ball team ending with a whimper rather than a flourish. It does feel like 1 CWC and 1 T20 World Cup is unders for how good they were at points. Australia have the same returns and their white ball program in that time has consisted of just rocking up at tournaments, picking the familiar suspects and seeing what the f**k might happen if they get to the KO stages.
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Oh, and what was the point of picking Hartley? Most bizarre World Cup selection since Sven decided to give Theo a holiday in Germany.
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Eng is not losing it in batting, but rather they gave away 30 to 40 runs too many
They should have used all 3 spinners , and maybe played Hartley for someone.
( means read the pitch wrong)
Once you have to chase 170, you have to take more risks and keep going, means giving away wickets more easily.
If you restrict to 130 to 140, you can bat in a more organized way and come closer.
They should have used all 3 spinners , and maybe played Hartley for someone.
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Once you have to chase 170, you have to take more risks and keep going, means giving away wickets more easily.
If you restrict to 130 to 140, you can bat in a more organized way and come closer.
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I think it's important to give India their dues for how good this bowling unit is. There's par for the wicket. Then there's par for the wicket if you need to chase against this attack.
England let them get too many. I think around 150-160 would be par against if you're chasing against any other attack in the comp though. So it's not really 30-40 runs too much. It's an absolutely gun bowling attack which makes it look that way.
England let them get too many. I think around 150-160 would be par against if you're chasing against any other attack in the comp though. So it's not really 30-40 runs too much. It's an absolutely gun bowling attack which makes it look that way.
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whose fault was that R.O?
I think just despondency
I think just despondency
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Wish it had rained instead...
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alfie wrote:Anyway this should end soon so I can get to bed before sunrise...Congrats to India , and for all I'd have loved to see England make it through it is clear the two best teams are in the final.. which should be a cracker.
Yes, it should be an interesting final. SA going for their second ICC trophy since 1998 and India their sixth since 2013.
India look strong and are building more confidence as the tournament goes deeper; SA capable of producing something special too if things go their way on the day.
I favour India slightly... barring any dramatic implosion at the final hurdle, I just feel they are better placed to go all the way this time.
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England let them get too many. I think around 150-160 would be par against if you're chasing against any other attack in the comp though. So it's not really 30-40 runs too much. It's an absolutely gun bowling attack which makes it look that way.
as I counted and posted earlier
8 overs of spin went for 49 runs
12 over of pace for 122 runs...so I can agree with that Eng make-up of bowing only 8 overs of spin 150 to 160 was par
If Eng played Hartley and used 12 to 14 overs of spin......they could have restricted India to 130-140
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If the pitch is anywhere close to this one in final, SA will have a hard time.
SA's best bet would be to win the toss, put whatever runs they can on board and hope India chokes.
The two unbeaten teams march thru one sided semi finals
SA's best bet would be to win the toss, put whatever runs they can on board and hope India chokes.
The two unbeaten teams march thru one sided semi finals
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KP_fan wrote:king_carlos wrote:
England let them get too many. I think around 150-160 would be par against if you're chasing against any other attack in the comp though. So it's not really 30-40 runs too much. It's an absolutely gun bowling attack which makes it look that way.
as I counted and posted earlier
8 overs of spin went for 49 runs
12 over of pace for 122 runs...so I can agree with that Eng make-up of bowing only 8 overs of spin 150 to 160 was par
If Eng played Hartley and used 12 to 14 overs of spin......they could have restricted India to 130-140
Archer bent on top scoring today...he can bat
That's only if those spinners are as effective though. Kuldeep is absolutely spell binding at the minute. Jadeja and Axar are fantastic bowlers. England haven't got near the same quality as that below Dilly.
Livi got through his 4 quietly but England notably used him when new batters came to the crease and after the drinks break. He effectively got nursed through those 4 overs by bowling him when you'd expect a quieter over anyway.
Whereas India had 3 spinners you could bowl just about whenever you wanted on this wicket. Axar come on in the PP against a set Buttler and got a wicket immediately. Kuldeep was bordering on unplayable. Then Jadeja practically came on as an afterthought.
That's completely different to the spinners England can bowl other than Rashid.
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Yes that's true and that's why I wrote when chasing 130-140 Eng would have come close.king_carlos wrote:KP_fan wrote:king_carlos wrote:
England let them get too many. I think around 150-160 would be par against if you're chasing against any other attack in the comp though. So it's not really 30-40 runs too much. It's an absolutely gun bowling attack which makes it look that way.
as I counted and posted earlier
8 overs of spin went for 49 runs
12 over of pace for 122 runs...so I can agree with that Eng make-up of bowing only 8 overs of spin 150 to 160 was par
If Eng played Hartley and used 12 to 14 overs of spin......they could have restricted India to 130-140
Archer bent on top scoring today...he can bat
That's only if those spinners are as effective though. .
I think Indian spinners + Bumrah would have defended 140.
In Post match Butler acknowledged he should have bowled Moeen
I doubt 5 overs of Moeen & Hartley would have gone for 50 to 55
more like 30 to 35
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India hasn't won an ICC trophy for 11 years & yet made to finals of all 3 formats in this year.
That's no mean feat, that's glass 90% full, although it appear a lot emptier.
Although I am conservative & cautious rather than overly optimistic about India, I think this time Ind are favorites to win this final.
What's diffrent conpared to 2022 in SA?
1- Pitches are slower and gripping for spinners
2- India has 3 all-rounders . Last time Jadeja was missing and Axar was not an all-rounder for SA conditions.
3- Bumrah was missing last time. Not only is he there, but at the top of his game & the top bowler in world in all conditions and all formats.
Ind's only question will be whether to play Dubey? or bring in Samson?
In the midst of the semifinal they lost so much faith in him that they would not have sent him to bat if not needed, when he was specifically selected to come at 5 and go after spinners
His first ball dismissal might have reaffirmed team management's loss of faith.
The only reason to retain him will be one linked with superstition " don't change the winning combination "
That's no mean feat, that's glass 90% full, although it appear a lot emptier.
Although I am conservative & cautious rather than overly optimistic about India, I think this time Ind are favorites to win this final.
What's diffrent conpared to 2022 in SA?
1- Pitches are slower and gripping for spinners
2- India has 3 all-rounders . Last time Jadeja was missing and Axar was not an all-rounder for SA conditions.
3- Bumrah was missing last time. Not only is he there, but at the top of his game & the top bowler in world in all conditions and all formats.
Ind's only question will be whether to play Dubey? or bring in Samson?
In the midst of the semifinal they lost so much faith in him that they would not have sent him to bat if not needed, when he was specifically selected to come at 5 and go after spinners
His first ball dismissal might have reaffirmed team management's loss of faith.
The only reason to retain him will be one linked with superstition " don't change the winning combination "
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After a bit of sleep I am not too distressed over that result. Truth is India have been far more solid throughout this WC and were likely to win that semi in almost any circumstances. On that low and spinny pitch their chances were even higher - and I suspect England would have been better advised to bat first , try and get a modest total , and hope nerves upset the Indian bats. (Not hindsight : I was rather hoping England would lose the toss because I did fear they were hoping to reprise the 2022 game ...and conditions here were always going to be hugely different) But it probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference : as others have said , India's attack (especially the spin options) is on another level to England's.
Once the dust clears and all the serial moaners have had their on-line fun heaping hysterical abuse on players and coaches England can take their time planning to refresh for the next white ball event. Test Matches next thank heavens !
India/SA final as logically expected and whoever wins will have totally deserved their success. Like PJ , I think India will probably prevail as they just look more solid overall , with an attack better suited to the conditions - unless the final venue unexpectedly turns up a seamer's paradise
Not ruling SA out , because they have shown great determination throughout this WC : but I think they would need everything to go right if they're to upset India this time. Hope we get a good contest
Once the dust clears and all the serial moaners have had their on-line fun heaping hysterical abuse on players and coaches England can take their time planning to refresh for the next white ball event. Test Matches next thank heavens !
India/SA final as logically expected and whoever wins will have totally deserved their success. Like PJ , I think India will probably prevail as they just look more solid overall , with an attack better suited to the conditions - unless the final venue unexpectedly turns up a seamer's paradise
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Yeah, agree, wasn't bothered really, because India had the much better side on paper regardless of conditions, and England had not really had a convincing tournament. So the expected result happened, which is never exactly disappointing
Also cushioning the blow is yes this is a World Cup, but doesn't feel like it in the same way as the ODI version. I guess that's because it's a bit devalued by being played almost every year, and England only seemed to win it a few weeks ago!
Also cushioning the blow is yes this is a World Cup, but doesn't feel like it in the same way as the ODI version. I guess that's because it's a bit devalued by being played almost every year, and England only seemed to win it a few weeks ago!
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Player Ratings for England
Buttler 7.5/10. Not the dominating figure we like to see, but not the disaster he was in the previous fifty over World Cup. Biggest score was against the Americans, got starts in most other innings but failed to kick on. Extra half a point for good keeping.
Salt 8/10. Played a leading role in England's only win over a top nation, and set up the chase v Australia, but did little outside of those games. Strike rate of 159 was England's best.
Bairstow 4/10. Out cheaply in three games, the only saving grace being his 48* v the West Indies. Nowhere near his aggressive, destructive best. Time for retirement.
Moeen 2/10. One day, we'll know how Moeen has such a strange hold over the England hierarchy. His abilities are vastly inflated by the top brass in all formats. This tournament Moeen frequently batted above Brook, and his scores took on a symmetry as they got lower and lower with each passing innings, going from OK to bad. Also bowled a few overs sparingly.
Brook 8/10. Difficult to rate. He has been managed by a bunch of clowns. He came out at 6 v Australia and 5 v South Africa. He would have probably led England to victory over SA, thus avoiding the India SF, if he came out at 4. Couldn't do anything about the India defeat, again coming out at 5, which was too low.
Jacks 1/10. Probably remembered for a 22 run over...that he bowled, rather than batted, alas. That sealed his fate as England panicked and adjusted the balance.
Livingstone 6/10. Bowled a few tidy overs, but was wrongly chosen to bowl v the West Indies, which cost 20. Had one good innings v SA, but little other chances to exhibit his batting prowess. Might be on borrowed time because he's up to 48 T20is now and we still haven't seen the best of him, or really understand what his role is.
Curran 1.5/10. Came back for the balance, didn't replicate 2022. Tournament bowling figures of 12-0-115-3 says it all I think. Not much chance with the bat either.
Jordan 2.5/10. Might seem harsh, but his figures are massaged heavily by the USA game, and full credit for the hattrick. But went for over 12 an over v India, and 11 an over v Australia, in the games that were true tests. Picked up a lot of cheap wickets against batsmen on the slog. Most expensive bowler for England.
Rashid 8.5/10. Ah, was this the end? Another fine tournament for his Rashidness, who I think is England's greatest ever limited overs bowler. Only blemish in this tournament was the 1/41 v Australia. Otherwise he was typical Rashid, with 1/25 v India, 1/20 v South Africa, and 1/21 v West Indies. Tournament economy under 7 and England's joint leading wicket taker.
Archer 8/10. Didn't strike in the PowerPlay as often as England would have wanted, but he was a consistent wicket taker and England's second most miserly quick. Great to see him back.
Topley 7/10. Tough to rate. On the one hand, very cheap, on the other, just two wickets in 18 overs. The best teams need strikes in those PowerPlay overs and Topley didn't deliver on this front. But he didn't give much away, either.
Wood 1.5/10. Went wicketless and at about 11/12 an over in the three games v test opponents. Minor redemption to his figures with 3/12 v Oman (worth half a point that). Has had a really tough run for the last nine months in all formats.
Duckett N/A. Didn't play. Was worth a shot considering his left handedness and Bairstow not doing much.
Hartley N/A. Didn't play. But didn't expect him to. A baffling selection. Still don't understand it.
Mott 0/10. Time to go. English limited overs cricket needs a rebuild towards the next major ICC trophy (which is early next year, there's one every year!) and Mott isn't the man to do it. Made numerous strange calls for this tournament. Why is Moeen a 3/4? Why was Bairstow not dropped? Why was Brook so low? Why was Hartley picked? Why was the balance bowling heavy when extra batting was required? Why did Duckett not play? This failure follows straight on from the last one. And, yes, it is a failure. I know some might look at it and say, 'semi-finals, that's not bad'. But England's record v the top nations was 1-3, with two big defeats. The only notable victory was over the West Indies.
Buttler 7.5/10. Not the dominating figure we like to see, but not the disaster he was in the previous fifty over World Cup. Biggest score was against the Americans, got starts in most other innings but failed to kick on. Extra half a point for good keeping.
Salt 8/10. Played a leading role in England's only win over a top nation, and set up the chase v Australia, but did little outside of those games. Strike rate of 159 was England's best.
Bairstow 4/10. Out cheaply in three games, the only saving grace being his 48* v the West Indies. Nowhere near his aggressive, destructive best. Time for retirement.
Moeen 2/10. One day, we'll know how Moeen has such a strange hold over the England hierarchy. His abilities are vastly inflated by the top brass in all formats. This tournament Moeen frequently batted above Brook, and his scores took on a symmetry as they got lower and lower with each passing innings, going from OK to bad. Also bowled a few overs sparingly.
Brook 8/10. Difficult to rate. He has been managed by a bunch of clowns. He came out at 6 v Australia and 5 v South Africa. He would have probably led England to victory over SA, thus avoiding the India SF, if he came out at 4. Couldn't do anything about the India defeat, again coming out at 5, which was too low.
Jacks 1/10. Probably remembered for a 22 run over...that he bowled, rather than batted, alas. That sealed his fate as England panicked and adjusted the balance.
Livingstone 6/10. Bowled a few tidy overs, but was wrongly chosen to bowl v the West Indies, which cost 20. Had one good innings v SA, but little other chances to exhibit his batting prowess. Might be on borrowed time because he's up to 48 T20is now and we still haven't seen the best of him, or really understand what his role is.
Curran 1.5/10. Came back for the balance, didn't replicate 2022. Tournament bowling figures of 12-0-115-3 says it all I think. Not much chance with the bat either.
Jordan 2.5/10. Might seem harsh, but his figures are massaged heavily by the USA game, and full credit for the hattrick. But went for over 12 an over v India, and 11 an over v Australia, in the games that were true tests. Picked up a lot of cheap wickets against batsmen on the slog. Most expensive bowler for England.
Rashid 8.5/10. Ah, was this the end? Another fine tournament for his Rashidness, who I think is England's greatest ever limited overs bowler. Only blemish in this tournament was the 1/41 v Australia. Otherwise he was typical Rashid, with 1/25 v India, 1/20 v South Africa, and 1/21 v West Indies. Tournament economy under 7 and England's joint leading wicket taker.
Archer 8/10. Didn't strike in the PowerPlay as often as England would have wanted, but he was a consistent wicket taker and England's second most miserly quick. Great to see him back.
Topley 7/10. Tough to rate. On the one hand, very cheap, on the other, just two wickets in 18 overs. The best teams need strikes in those PowerPlay overs and Topley didn't deliver on this front. But he didn't give much away, either.
Wood 1.5/10. Went wicketless and at about 11/12 an over in the three games v test opponents. Minor redemption to his figures with 3/12 v Oman (worth half a point that). Has had a really tough run for the last nine months in all formats.
Duckett N/A. Didn't play. Was worth a shot considering his left handedness and Bairstow not doing much.
Hartley N/A. Didn't play. But didn't expect him to. A baffling selection. Still don't understand it.
Mott 0/10. Time to go. English limited overs cricket needs a rebuild towards the next major ICC trophy (which is early next year, there's one every year!) and Mott isn't the man to do it. Made numerous strange calls for this tournament. Why is Moeen a 3/4? Why was Bairstow not dropped? Why was Brook so low? Why was Hartley picked? Why was the balance bowling heavy when extra batting was required? Why did Duckett not play? This failure follows straight on from the last one. And, yes, it is a failure. I know some might look at it and say, 'semi-finals, that's not bad'. But England's record v the top nations was 1-3, with two big defeats. The only notable victory was over the West Indies.
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All feels fair enough there, Duty.
I'd maybe quibble with Curran being quite that low. Probably a 3 or 4 from me - on par with Jordan. His figures at face value aren't good but he was often bowling tough overs. They started using him in the 6th which last I checked was on average the highest scoring before the death as it's the final over of the PP. Then they used him at the death again. His batting as a lower middle order hitter in T20is just hasn't worked though. He's better further up the order in franchise stuff. That 6/7 hitting from ball one role hasn't worked for him though, whilst there are better batting talents up the order. He's a bit of a curates egg at the minute across formats. There's so much talent there though and he's still only 26. I hope whatever the next setup is tries him in a different role, though even typing that I'm not quite sure what.
I'm curious whether Buttler will want to continue with the captaincy. He starting to get that end stage Joe Root beleaguered look to him. I really hope he continues as a player though. It would be such a shame if the CWC and this whimper were the final hurrah of such a magnificent white ball player.
I'd maybe quibble with Curran being quite that low. Probably a 3 or 4 from me - on par with Jordan. His figures at face value aren't good but he was often bowling tough overs. They started using him in the 6th which last I checked was on average the highest scoring before the death as it's the final over of the PP. Then they used him at the death again. His batting as a lower middle order hitter in T20is just hasn't worked though. He's better further up the order in franchise stuff. That 6/7 hitting from ball one role hasn't worked for him though, whilst there are better batting talents up the order. He's a bit of a curates egg at the minute across formats. There's so much talent there though and he's still only 26. I hope whatever the next setup is tries him in a different role, though even typing that I'm not quite sure what.
I'm curious whether Buttler will want to continue with the captaincy. He starting to get that end stage Joe Root beleaguered look to him. I really hope he continues as a player though. It would be such a shame if the CWC and this whimper were the final hurrah of such a magnificent white ball player.
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The final is this afternoon. Two teams with unbeaten records face off for the trophy, and whoever wins will be the first team to have gone unbeaten through the T20 World Cup.
In one corner is South Africa. Masters of the close finish. Winning a low scorer v SL, edging out the Dutch by four wickets, beating Bangladesh and Nepal by four runs and a solitary run respectively, then pulling out wins of 18 runs, seven runs and three wickets in the Super Eights. It's not been easy, but they've got here. De Kock is the only one really firing with the bat, but they have plenty of options with the ball, as all of their main bowlers have enjoyed good to strong tournaments. Can SA finally get over the line in a major ICC tournament?
Facing them is India. Their passage has been rather more serene. They dispatched every team that crossed them in the Super Eights with some ease and comfort, to follow up their wins over Ireland, USA and Pakistan in the initial phase. Pakistan got the closest, losing by just six runs. India's team looks absolutely loaded. Rohit, Yadav and Pant are all doing well, with Pandya providing a boost down the order. The bowling is terrifying, principally because probably the best ever T20 bowler in Bumrah is having a magnum opus. And if he doesn't get you, surely one of the spin trio will, or even Arshdeep, who is India's leading wicket taker at this competition. Will 11 years of hurt, and 17 years since India, home of the IPL, last won this competition, end today?
For me it looks very similar to the last 50 over World Cup final. India are the better team on paper and are clear favourites, but it is just one game, and the pressure, which India haven't handled well in the past, is all on them. Unlike Australia however, SA are not a team with international winners. It should be India's, but one magic innings, like Head's century, or one magic spell can alter things drastically.
In one corner is South Africa. Masters of the close finish. Winning a low scorer v SL, edging out the Dutch by four wickets, beating Bangladesh and Nepal by four runs and a solitary run respectively, then pulling out wins of 18 runs, seven runs and three wickets in the Super Eights. It's not been easy, but they've got here. De Kock is the only one really firing with the bat, but they have plenty of options with the ball, as all of their main bowlers have enjoyed good to strong tournaments. Can SA finally get over the line in a major ICC tournament?
Facing them is India. Their passage has been rather more serene. They dispatched every team that crossed them in the Super Eights with some ease and comfort, to follow up their wins over Ireland, USA and Pakistan in the initial phase. Pakistan got the closest, losing by just six runs. India's team looks absolutely loaded. Rohit, Yadav and Pant are all doing well, with Pandya providing a boost down the order. The bowling is terrifying, principally because probably the best ever T20 bowler in Bumrah is having a magnum opus. And if he doesn't get you, surely one of the spin trio will, or even Arshdeep, who is India's leading wicket taker at this competition. Will 11 years of hurt, and 17 years since India, home of the IPL, last won this competition, end today?
For me it looks very similar to the last 50 over World Cup final. India are the better team on paper and are clear favourites, but it is just one game, and the pressure, which India haven't handled well in the past, is all on them. Unlike Australia however, SA are not a team with international winners. It should be India's, but one magic innings, like Head's century, or one magic spell can alter things drastically.
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India winning the toss and batting first. Both unchanged.
Seven of the eight winners of the T20 World Cup have won the toss...
Seven of the eight winners of the T20 World Cup have won the toss...
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Wow, this final's alive.
India 23 runs in the first eight balls, but Maharaj strikes back with two wickets in three balls. Rohit and Pant accounted for. 23/2.
India 23 runs in the first eight balls, but Maharaj strikes back with two wickets in three balls. Rohit and Pant accounted for. 23/2.
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And now South Africa go ahead, as Yadav picks the man in the deep. Neat catch from Klassen.
34/3 and the three heavyweights in the top four taken out. Kohli hasn't been in good form, but is currently on 22 and is now the main hope of the innings. He's joined by Axar, up at 5.
34/3 and the three heavyweights in the top four taken out. Kohli hasn't been in good form, but is currently on 22 and is now the main hope of the innings. He's joined by Axar, up at 5.
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On a min 160 pitch and 180 par , India in a hole 34-3
Kohli needs to bat thru
Kohli needs to bat thru
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Axar and Kohli rebuilding nicely.
75/3 at halfway. Really well balanced. Couple of quick wickets after the drinks break and India will be struggling to reach 140. But if these two stick together for a bit longer, they'll set it up for Pandya and Jadeja to lift them to 170+.
Shamsi and Nortje have six overs left, which is a big plus in SA's favour for this second half.
75/3 at halfway. Really well balanced. Couple of quick wickets after the drinks break and India will be struggling to reach 140. But if these two stick together for a bit longer, they'll set it up for Pandya and Jadeja to lift them to 170+.
Shamsi and Nortje have six overs left, which is a big plus in SA's favour for this second half.
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No idea why SA have bowled Jansen through his full allocation, it's not been a good day for him right from the off.
He's getting taken for a few in the 19th.
Kohli out for 76. A potential match winning innings that one. Kept India together when the early wickets were tumbling, along with Axar who was also good, and India 163 with seven balls left.
He's getting taken for a few in the 19th.
Kohli out for 76. A potential match winning innings that one. Kept India together when the early wickets were tumbling, along with Axar who was also good, and India 163 with seven balls left.
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176 the final score. Some of SA's fielding left a lot to be desired.
Not impossible, it's a nice batting wicket and not the biggest boundaries, but going to be a very big ask against this bowling unit.
Not impossible, it's a nice batting wicket and not the biggest boundaries, but going to be a very big ask against this bowling unit.
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160 was the min required and 180 would have been good.
Setting 177 to win is still a good effort by India.
Kohli got his comfort zone situation to get-set build , got to 50 off 48 balls and such innings are terrible if batter gets out without giving acceleration after "eating" so many balls.
Fortunately he accelerated.
Dubey cracks very hard and did enuf to play for India more......actually the best place for Dubey is when he come in last 3 or 4 overs and has no option but to hit....and he hits very hard.
Pitch has something for seamers who bend their back and some grip for the spinners.
India looks ahead and for SA to win one of their big-4 ( QDK, Makram, Miler, Klassen) have to play a blinder today like a 40 ball 70
Setting 177 to win is still a good effort by India.
Kohli got his comfort zone situation to get-set build , got to 50 off 48 balls and such innings are terrible if batter gets out without giving acceleration after "eating" so many balls.
Fortunately he accelerated.
Dubey cracks very hard and did enuf to play for India more......actually the best place for Dubey is when he come in last 3 or 4 overs and has no option but to hit....and he hits very hard.
Pitch has something for seamers who bend their back and some grip for the spinners.
India looks ahead and for SA to win one of their big-4 ( QDK, Makram, Miler, Klassen) have to play a blinder today like a 40 ball 70
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176 enough do you think ? Those late wickets saved SA maybe 10 vital runs but still a tough chase against this Indian attack. They'll be wanting a de Kock special start ...
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Should be enough.
And Bumrah strikes with his third ball, what a peach!
And Bumrah strikes with his third ball, what a peach!
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Bumrah produces a cracker .....it's always a spectacle when a right arm pace bowler clean bowls a RHB
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Keeps pace with the Indian innings after 7.. and one wicket less...
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SA negotiated 4 overs of spin without losing a wicket and got after the spinners a bit
Game on now
Game on now
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It was tempting to take spinner off and bring Pandya....But Rohit didn't blink and bowled one more Axar over
and Stubbs chanced his arm once too many...bowled
and Stubbs chanced his arm once too many...bowled
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Timely breakthrough. De Kock needs to bat through.
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Burst of scoring edged SA maybe ahead...but Stubbs wicket has brought that back. A lot on this partnership, eh?
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96 off 60, seven wickets left.
Pandya/sixth bowler has three overs left, could be pivotal for SA. But not a lot of batting left for SA. Miller next is fine, but Jansen at 7 and Maharaj at 8 are both one place too high.
Pandya/sixth bowler has three overs left, could be pivotal for SA. But not a lot of batting left for SA. Miller next is fine, but Jansen at 7 and Maharaj at 8 are both one place too high.
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Klassen is finding his beast mode slowly
If one of Klassen, QDK or Miller bats until end ,SA will win
If one of Klassen, QDK or Miller bats until end ,SA will win
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india take QDK out...falls to AArshdeeps' c.rap delivery
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