P4P British and World

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This is just my opinion

P4P list
1.Manny Pacquiao - 51-3-2, 38KOs
2. Sergio Martinez 46-2-2, 25KOs
3.Juan M. Marquez - 51-5-1, 37KOs
4.Nonito Donaire - 24-1, 16KOs
5.Wladimir Klitscko 56-3-0, 49 KOs
6.Bernard Hopkins 51-5-1, 32KOs
7.Pong.Wonjongkam 78-3-1, 42 KOs
8.Giovani Segura 26-1-1, 22 KOs
9.Miguel Cotto - 35-2, 28KOs
10.Andre Ward - 23-0, 13 KOs
11.Yuriorkis Gamboa - 20-0 16KOs
12.Carl Froch - 28-1 20KOs
13.Amir Khan - 26-1 18KOs
14.Lucian Bute - 28-0 23KOs
15.Timothy Bradley - 27-0 11KOs

British P4P
1. Carl Froch 28-1, 20KOs
2. Amir Khan 25-1, 17KOs
3. David Haye 25-2, 23KOs
4. Nathan Cleverly 22-0, 11KOs
5. Ricky Burns 31-2, 8KOs
6. Kell Brook 24-0, 16KOs
7. Matthew Macklin 28-3, 19KOs
8. Darren Barker 23-0, 14KOs
9. Rendall Munroe 23-2, 9KOs
10. Kevin Mitchel 31-1, 18KOs
11. Ryan Rhodes 45-5, 31KOs
12. John Murray 30-0, 18KOs
13. Tyson Fury 15-0, 10KOs
14. George Groves 13-0, 10KOs
15. David Price 11-0, 9KOs


p.s - Why isn't there a boxing ranking page like there was in the old 606

Towser, Cotto battered Malignaggi much worse. No stoppage, but more damage done. Khan's quicker with in-and-out movement but for handspeed I'm not sure there's much in it.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Miles better and more intelligent......

Really..

Yeah, do you remember Cotto getting blown away by Prescott with absolutely no brains whatsoever and walking head first onto big shots against Maidana, even a controversial character like yourself can't seriously be suggesting to me Khan has a boxing brain? if he has he's never showed me. Khan can't stay out of the way of punchers for 12 rounds sticking to an in and out gameplan, i'm not convinced he can, he nearly got sparked off Maidana, Morales was much more comfortable.

Khan is quicker.........Not as lazy either..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Khan is quicker.........Not as lazy either..

Not as good either..

Don't even go there Truss

Balti you've hit the nail on the head, who's victory over Abraham means the most? Dirrell and do you know why because he was the one who set the blueprint up on how to beat him which both Ward and Froch later followed. Same with Malignaggi Khan knew how to beat him based on what had happened in the past, is the same true of Froch beating Pascal or Pascal beating Dawson and Diaconu?

Better fighter in my opinion......Marg is just an average fighter with durability and he tracked him down...

Cotto too lazy..

Never seen Khan outboxed........Like hearns it's all about catching the kid...If not then the jab, handspeed like Hearns will get you....

Thought Hatton would beat Cotto at 140..

BALTIMORA wrote:Towser, Cotto battered Malignaggi much worse. No stoppage, but more damage done. Khan's quicker with in-and-out movement but for handspeed I'm not sure there's much in it.

Cotto beat him 115-112...you make it sound one sided...Khan won all the rounds unlike the overrated quitter Cotto.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Never seen Khan outboxed........Like hearns it's all about catching the kid...If not then the jab, handspeed like Hearns will get you....

Thought Hatton would beat Cotto at 140..

Always thought Hatton wins even at 147...Cotto can't handle pressure very well.

Something missing with Miguel....

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Towser, Cotto battered Malignaggi much worse. No stoppage, but more damage done. Khan's quicker with in-and-out movement but for handspeed I'm not sure there's much in it.

Cotto beat him 115-112...you make it sound one sided...Khan won all the rounds unlike the overrated quitter Cotto.

Sounds like someone's on the wum again Balti, did Khan break his jaw and floor him?

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Something missing with Miguel....

A warrior's heart

Cotto is many things but a quitter isn't one of them and he beat a better version of Malignaggi who with diminishing speed was always going to be outboxed with ease by Khan, it's a style thing.

We are all wumming mate.....Your the only serious poster on here..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Never seen Khan outboxed........Like hearns it's all about catching the kid...If not then the jab, handspeed like Hearns will get you....

Thought Hatton would beat Cotto at 140..

Like Hearns? oh god it gets better

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Don't even go there Truss

Balti you've hit the nail on the head, who's victory over Abraham means the most? Dirrell and do you know why because he was the one who set the blueprint up on how to beat him which both Ward and Froch later followed. Same with Malignaggi Khan knew how to beat him based on what had happened in the past, is the same true of Froch beating Pascal or Pascal beating Dawson and Diaconu?

I'm still not 100% decided on Dirrell's 'win' over Abraham. He was way ahead on the cards, but he'd allowed Abraham back in, and wasn't looking too good after the KD which wasn't called. A great, impressive performance, but one which lacked the finesse that comes with experience.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Cotto is many things but a quitter isn't one of them and he beat a better version of Malignaggi who with diminishing speed was always going to be outboxed with ease by Khan, it's a style thing.

He'll be bored, so will wum, he brings Cotto up even if you were talking about buying a new TV set, talks Cotto making lies up, Windy has to come on and warn us when he doesn't want to then the kid is over the moon - because he's on the wum

Young_Towzer wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Towser, Cotto battered Malignaggi much worse. No stoppage, but more damage done. Khan's quicker with in-and-out movement but for handspeed I'm not sure there's much in it.

Cotto beat him 115-112...you make it sound one sided...Khan won all the rounds unlike the overrated quitter Cotto.

Sounds like someone's on the wum again Balti, did Khan break his jaw and floor him?

115-112 close fight...if your basing it on damage done then you accept Haye Klitschko was even, Clottey beat Cotto.

Broke Malignaggi jaw apparently yet Cotto could barely beat him.

Balti, Chavez may have beaten Taylor but Meldrick did a bloody good job setting the blueprint for his eventual downfall

Having a difference of opinion does not make someone a WUM

Like Hearns in the way he's got the tools to outbox..

Never said he was as good..

Eastside is a good site I've heard Towser..

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Towser, Cotto battered Malignaggi much worse. No stoppage, but more damage done. Khan's quicker with in-and-out movement but for handspeed I'm not sure there's much in it.

Cotto beat him 115-112...you make it sound one sided...Khan won all the rounds unlike the overrated quitter Cotto.

I'm not talking about scorecards, I'm talking about physical damage. Khan stopped him but didn't damage him as badly. Like Marg vs Pacquiao and Marg vs Mosley. Mosley stopped him but Pacquiao damaged him much worse.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Cotto is many things but a quitter isn't one of them and he beat a better version of Malignaggi who with diminishing speed was always going to be outboxed with ease by Khan, it's a style thing.

He quit against Margarito! He is a quitter like Chagaev etc. When the going gets tough Cotto goes running and quitting.

Do you think this kid is D4???? with a new password..

Just as irritating isn't he..

BALTIMORA wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Towser, Cotto battered Malignaggi much worse. No stoppage, but more damage done. Khan's quicker with in-and-out movement but for handspeed I'm not sure there's much in it.

Cotto beat him 115-112...you make it sound one sided...Khan won all the rounds unlike the overrated quitter Cotto.

I'm not talking about scorecards, I'm talking about physical damage. Khan stopped him but didn't damage him as badly. Like Marg vs Pacquiao and Marg vs Mosley. Mosley stopped him but Pacquiao damaged him much worse.

Fair enough...I apologise for the misunderstanding.

Can't see Hatton quitting like that..

Got heart or you haven't....

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Cotto is many things but a quitter isn't one of them and he beat a better version of Malignaggi who with diminishing speed was always going to be outboxed with ease by Khan, it's a style thing.

He really struck me as a quitter when he had that horrible cut against Clottey, Pacquiao but soldiered through, they do say though it's easy to call a pro a quitter behind a computer desk....

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Balti, Chavez may have beaten Taylor but Meldrick did a bloody good job setting the blueprint for his eventual downfall

Having a difference of opinion does not make someone a WUM

I didn't call you one mate. I'm not saying Dirrell's performance was less impressive, but it was still a flawed performance. I'll admit I can't stand Dirrell though.

The genius of PBF wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Cotto is many things but a quitter isn't one of them and he beat a better version of Malignaggi who with diminishing speed was always going to be outboxed with ease by Khan, it's a style thing.

He quit against Margarito! He is a quitter like Chagaev etc. When the going gets tough Cotto goes running and quitting.

No he didn't quit, i'll admit Duran quit against Leonard but Cotto did not quit, a quitter wouldn't have got in the position he was in, a brutal brutal beating that left him a bloody mess

BALTIMORA wrote:

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Balti, Chavez may have beaten Taylor but Meldrick did a bloody good job setting the blueprint for his eventual downfall

Having a difference of opinion does not make someone a WUM

I didn't call you one mate. I'm not saying Dirrell's performance was less impressive, but it was still a flawed performance. I'll admit I can't stand Dirrell though.

Didn't mean you Balti, meant the others

It was flawed but after the Froch disapointment was a great turnaround in fortunes

There are different ways of quitting...He lost his stomach for the fight in my opinion..

Truss he got beaten to a virtual standstill, a quitter would have got out quicker than he did

Fortunately i'm off out, do play nice guys

Think everybody knew how to beat Julio.......Just needed someone with the balls and the skill to do it......

A younger Camacho would've beat him I think....Very underrated the great hector was...

Rosario wanted to quit against Chavez after 6 rounds but just surrendered and took a hiding instead....

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Do you think this kid is D4???? with a new password..

Just as irritating isn't he..

Can a mod/admin etc verify i'm not d4? i know you cannot disagree with trussman in his own mind but please verify? cheers.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Rosario wanted to quit against Chavez after 6 rounds but just surrendered and took a hiding instead....

Did Cotto quit when Torres floored him?
When Pacquiao was the better man after a bright start?
When he couldn't see out of his eyes against Clottey?
mmmmmmm
Is Tszyu a quitter?
Curry?
bit erm Hypocritical as they say in the 'Real world'

As I try to tell you all. Stop playing so rough or someone is gonna start crying

You're a wum if you try to debate...

I think that's the problem..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You're a wum if you try to debate...

I think that's the problem..

Not at all, Truss.

You know full well that I love your boxing input and always have. Heaven knows we've bumped heads a few times, but we've always ( with just one or two exceptions, ) been respectful to each other.

That's all I'm asking everybody to do now. Knock lumps out of each other's arguments, but leave the personal stuff, whether direct or implied, off the table.

Thanks.

Yeah well iv tried my best to educate you all

Guess I failed...

I agree Windy

Trussman has insulted me on personal and national levels on many occasions but I let him off because thats the kind of good natured guy I am

You're a true gentleman, Steffan.

HumanWindmill wrote:You're a true gentleman, Steffan.

Much like your good self then

Steffan wrote:I agree Windy

Trussman has insulted me on personal and national levels on many occasions but I let him off because thats the kind of good natured guy I am

Not as though anyone would do out about it anyway my good Welsh friend, the guy is less at danger of being pulled up than a Mod

Young_Towzer wrote:

Steffan wrote:I agree Windy

Trussman has insulted me on personal and national levels on many occasions but I let him off because thats the kind of good natured guy I am

Not as though anyone would do out about it anyway my good Welsh friend, the guy is less at danger of being pulled up than a Mod

I always try to be even handed and fair, Steven, and if I were seen to be anything other then the other mods or admins would jump in.

If I had my way, everybody would get along even if they passionately disagreed about just about every boxing subject. In the real world that can't happen but we can, at the very least, establish and respect borders.

HumanWindmill wrote:

Young_Towzer wrote:

Steffan wrote:I agree Windy

Trussman has insulted me on personal and national levels on many occasions but I let him off because thats the kind of good natured guy I am

Not as though anyone would do out about it anyway my good Welsh friend, the guy is less at danger of being pulled up than a Mod

I always try to be even handed and fair, Steven, and if I were seen to be anything other then the other mods or admins would jump in.

If I had my way, everybody would get along even if they passionately disagreed about just about every boxing subject. In the real world that can't happen but we can, at the very least, establish and respect borders.

As someone who has been the target of national abuse, baiting, and attempted cyber bullying I agree

Love your speech Windy...a touch of JFK's ask what you can do for your country....

Politics awaits......

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Love your speech Windy...a touch of JFK's ask what you can do for your country....

Politics awaits......

Ha !

I get plenty of practice here, mate.

what's with the cotto insults