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Post by Shifty Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:00 pm

SPRINGBOKS superstar Schalk Burger has emerged as an injury doubt for the world champions’ defence of their crown in New Zealand.

Burger would be a huge World Cup loss to South Africa who open their Pool D campaign against Wales in Wellington on September 11.

The Springboks flanker is likely to miss most of the upcoming Tri-Nations after undergoing surgery to his hand on Sunday.

The Stormers skipper did not come out for the second half of his side’s Super Rugby semi-final defeat to the Crusaders at Newlands last weekend.

Burger dislocated his thumb and damaged ligaments in his right hand and has already undergone an operation.

Allister Coetzee, the Stormers coach, confirmed that Burger has been operated on and was expected to be sidelined for six to eight weeks.

“Schalk was operated on Sunday morning,” confirmed Coetzee.

“He will be out for six to eight weeks and definitely be ready for the Rugby World Cup.”
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Post by Shifty Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:01 pm

Hopefully he wont be playing against Wales in the World Cup opener!
He's a menace on the field!
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Post by munkian Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:03 pm

AlynDavies wrote:Hopefully he wont be playing against Wales in the World Cup opener!
He's a menace on the field!

Maybe he'll be less likely to gouge with a freshly operated on hand, the man is an animal and should have been heavily cited.
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Post by funnyExiledScot Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:23 pm

To be honest, SA have a glut of possibilities in the back row, and could use Smith, Brussouw and Kankowski instead, with Spies on the bench.

I wouldn't get too excited.

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Post by Guest Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:33 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:To be honest, SA have a glut of possibilities in the back row, and could use Smith, Brussouw and Kankowski instead, with Spies on the bench.

I wouldn't get too excited.

Correct.

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Post by munkian Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:39 pm

Unfortunately true, full of fat headed boorish eye gougers
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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:47 pm

Risca Rev wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:To be honest, SA have a glut of possibilities in the back row, and could use Smith, Brussouw and Kankowski instead, with Spies on the bench.

I wouldn't get too excited.

Correct.

Very true.

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Post by Geordie Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:50 pm

Many would prefer Brussow over Burger......

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:56 pm

What has happened to Broussow post injury?

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Post by MBTGOG Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:58 pm

As,

Everytime he comes back, he looks like he's never been out. But he just keeps breaking down.


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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:07 pm

:yikes: Would love to have seen McCaw, Broussow, Pocock, and others battling it out - i think that there are a number of v strong 7s around at the moment

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Post by Geordie Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:13 pm

Do you think out and out 7's are still a critical part of the game?

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Post by nottins_jones Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:20 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:
funnyExiledScot wrote:To be honest, SA have a glut of possibilities in the back row, and could use Smith, Brussouw and Kankowski instead, with Spies on the bench.

I wouldn't get too excited.

Correct.

Very true.

Exceptionally true and the list doesn't stop at Spies.

“He will be out for six to eight weeks and definitely be ready for the Rugby World Cup.”

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know about your non-article?
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Post by Sam Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:23 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Many would prefer Brussow over Burger......
I would... If I was South African, but because Im english I'd prefer Burger :P

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:56 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:Do you think out and out 7's are still a critical part of the game?

Geordie, Depends whether you're talking about the particular skill set traditionally associated with a 7, or about the particular individuals mentioned? I personally an a fan of a traditional 7, am always happy when my teams play one, and am even happier when the oppo select a more 6.5 type openside

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Post by Biltong Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:23 am

Juan smith and Brussouw are both recovering, seeing that they play as team mates at the cheetahs, they will be a very good combination. I would like to see willem Alberts at 8 with these two.

The combination just makes sense, both alberts and Smith are very strong ball carriers, has high workrate and will compliment each other, add to that Brussouw, who himself is a decent ball carrier, but a terrier on the ball.

Perhaps our best combination at 6,7,8
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:32 am

Biltong, that is a strong combination, and the description of Brussouw (apologies for earlier spelling glitches, I knew it had an extra vowel somewhere!) as a terrior is very apt - his ability to rip the ball clean from tackled players is the best I've ever seen - huge upper body strength and great technique. Am delighted that Rosco Rennie has been working hard on this aspect of his game

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Post by Biltong Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:38 am

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Biltong, that is a strong combination, and the description of Brussouw (apologies for earlier spelling glitches, I knew it had an extra vowel somewhere!) as a terrior is very apt - his ability to rip the ball clean from tackled players is the best I've ever seen - huge upper body strength and great technique. Am delighted that Rosco Rennie has been working hard on this aspect of his game


Yeah, he may not have played a lot for the Cheetahs this season due to injuries, but he certainly had an ifluence on his team mates, what struck me about the cheetahs was that everyone was turning ver ball at ruck situation. Perhaps he shared a few secrets with them?
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:57 am

nottins_jones wrote:

“He will be out for six to eight weeks and definitely be ready for the Rugby World Cup.”

Doesn't that tell you all you need to know about your non-article?

nottins_jones, you beat me to it!

Don't tell me, Alyn - you lifted this from the Western Mail, didn't you? 🤦

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Post by johnpartle Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:26 pm

A blow to SA if he doesn't go at all, but in agreement with a number of others, I feel Brussow is the better player, so if it forces the Boks to start Brussow, with Schalk fully recovering in the wings over the beginning of the tournamnet, I feel SA will be better for it.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:35 pm

There is a very good chance that I am going to make a divvy of myself here but here goes ..... There is one Saffer back-rower I really like and rate (I have the name Danni Roussow in my head - is that right?) - he has a handful of caps but alsways seems to get overlooked. Apart from NZ and maybe Ireland, I think he woud walk into any other team's back-row

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Post by english warrior Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:41 pm

Shalke Burger is a great player and his loss is a massive blow to any team, but i fear that if South Africa were to put out their 3rd team against Wales, i would not bet against them, so wide is the gulf in class and depth between them!

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Post by TheGreyGhost Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:44 pm

Wales Grasp At Straw - hold the headlines!

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Post by boomeranga Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:34 am

johnpartle wrote:A blow to SA if he doesn't go at all, but in agreement with a number of others, I feel Brussow is the better player, so if it forces the Boks to start Brussow, with Schalk fully recovering in the wings over the beginning of the tournamnet, I feel SA will be better for it.

I agree John. We haven't seen Brussow and Smith for a while, but both have shown they do not need a long run to get back in form. If they start with an 8 that isn't named Spies, their back row will be a weapon. Schalk off the bench as well.

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Post by boomeranga Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:40 am

InjuredYetAgain wrote:There is a very good chance that I am going to make a divvy of myself here but here goes ..... There is one Saffer back-rower I really like and rate (I have the name Danni Roussow in my head - is that right?) - he has a handful of caps but alsways seems to get overlooked. Apart from NZ and maybe Ireland, I think he woud walk into any other team's back-row

Roussow could be right IYA. Big tough oh dear who seems to mainly play lock off the bench for the bulls (behind Botha, but I though their respective form for most of the year had them the wrong way round). Pretty sure he was the Bok 8 for RWC07. Kankowski is another possible, and he has less caps.

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Post by Biltong Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:20 am

boomeranga wrote:
InjuredYetAgain wrote:There is a very good chance that I am going to make a divvy of myself here but here goes ..... There is one Saffer back-rower I really like and rate (I have the name Danni Roussow in my head - is that right?) - he has a handful of caps but alsways seems to get overlooked. Apart from NZ and maybe Ireland, I think he woud walk into any other team's back-row

Roussow could be right IYA. Big tough oh dear who seems to mainly play lock off the bench for the bulls (behind Botha, but I though their respective form for most of the year had them the wrong way round). Pretty sure he was the Bok 8 for RWC07. Kankowski is another possible, and he has less caps.

Yes, Danie rossouw is a monster, it may surprise you that he has had 45 caps for the Springboks. The problem has always been that he came on as a subsitution many times. He adds a lot to the line out, and is a superb ball carrier, defender and has a high work rate. He became a utility forward because of the Bakkies Botha and Victor Matfield combination for the Bulls, and hence he played no 8 many times.
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