10 Reasons Why Cena Sucks

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:07 pm

Why cena and how he's booked(for the marks) grinds my gears.

1. He can't wrestle

I.e Can't throw punches and all the other moved he can't perform correctly

2. He doesn't sell

I.e He takes beats for 20 mins and wins in 2.

3. Promo work

I.e His mike work is crineworthy,he doesn't deliver it well

4. Trying to be funny

I.e When he on the stick he throws in some cheesy lines which half the audience dont get.

5. His merch

I.e the shirts,hats,armbands all cheesy

6. Hes Superman

I.e he beats everyone and majority of the time Buries them

7. He's homophobic

I.e when doing a promo he always references to gay people

8. Doesn't put people over

I.e Nobody comes out of a feud any better than before starting a feud

9. Acting skills

I.e He Trys and conveys emotion and story telling but has epic fails

10. Psychology

I.e Doesn't even know the meaning,zero psychology

But at least he works hard and nobody else does,I mean who else could fill his boots.

by Gregers Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:33 pm

I wouldnt agree with the promo bit, he is one of the best talkers in the business. When he's not fed rubbish from the writers. Case in point his rapping stuff, his stuff over the past few weeks.

He can wrestle, is he the best no. Is he the number one in the number one company, yes. I think he doesnt get the praise he should do.

He gets booked to look like superman and not put people over, that isnt his fault.

He is definitely not homophobic, thats a stupid comment

Typical IWC rubbish, sorry mate. I think you could do a 10 reasons why (enter name) sucks about everyone on the roster. Including CM Punk.

by DemonicTruthSpeaker Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:37 pm

1- Agreed.
2- It's the way he's booked.
3- Disagree. His role in the Vince / Punk / Cena promo last night was exceptional.
4- Agree. His 'comedy' promos are awful.
5- Merchandise is not his fault - it's not like he designs his own t-shirts / armbands / caps...
6- Again, that's the way he's booked, and follows standard WWE Babyface booking. Hogan was the same. Triple H was the same.
7- He's scripted to say such things. Punk and michael Cole also have said similar things in a non-scripted, public forum.
8- Edge. Cena made Edge a legit main-eventer in their extended run. R-Truth currently is making progress. Which by my reckoning, is two more Randy Orton and Batista managed between them.
9- Agreed.
10- Agreed.

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:40 pm

Sorry but all the reasons above are true. I don't care if its how he's booked,he still sucks for these reasons.

Basically saying to miz/riley should get a room is not being homophobic?
He's rubbish on the stick,the odds what he uses the tone of his voice and the delivery is poir.

Punks promo blew him away twice last night.

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:44 pm

Fed up of this excuse,it doesn't deter from the fact his on screen character absolutely sucks.

by Gregers Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:45 pm

I agree Zack Ryders on screen character does suck at the moment, hopefully the youtube thing will make it better... oh wait you wern't talking about Ryder?

Who then, Bryan?

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:49 pm

Ryder ain't no.1 guy in the company and hasn't held the wwe belt 10 times,your point?

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:51 pm

Couldn't you of kept this with your other discussion or are you on a mission to create as many 'i hate John Cena' threads as possible?

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:57 pm

Sorry boss won't step out of line next time.

If you ain't got anything to contribute to the thread can you refrain from commenting. Thanks

by DemonicTruthSpeaker Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:06 pm

Jeez, HitmanOwl, someone stolen your lunch or something?

Booking decisions are not Cena's fault - do you think he's going to ask Vince or whoever to change the booking becasue he doesn't want to win?

Merchandise is not Cena's fault. he's gets paid a royalty, so again, do you think he'll ask that they don't release a new t-shirt... in red? If people stopped buying them, WWE would stop releasing them. Not Cena's fault at all.

I competely agree that his comedy promo's are cringeworthy, but his serious promo's match up to anyone else in the company. If you can't appreciate that, then you clearly cannot judge anything in wrestling accurately!

by Scott is Back Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:14 pm

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:19 pm

when he's serious its cheesy.

all above still doesn't detract from the fact his I'm screen character sucks.

he is wearing that merch,he is not selling them moves,he does cut rubbish promos,he does beat 90% of his opponents and yes he does get booked to do these things thus making he on screen character is sh@t.

doesn't if the company books him this way.

by Shot 21 LCFC Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:30 pm

Im getting bored of all these Cena hating threads now...

by DemonicTruthSpeaker Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:47 pm

Shot 21 LCFC wrote:Im getting bored of all these Cena hating threads now...

I'd make the small point that mine is actually an 'Appreciation' thread.

by legendkillar Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:48 pm

End of the day Cena is fed sh!t from the company. Not the guy's fault. If the WWE weren't so PG and actually cut Cena some slack and give him something decent.

It is good CM Punk is getting something decent, by why they can't give Cena the same is beyond me.

by DemonicTruthSpeaker Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:53 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:when he's serious its cheesy.

all above still doesn't detract from the fact his I'm screen character sucks.

he is wearing that merch,he is not selling them moves,he does cut rubbish promos,he does beat 90% of his opponents and yes he does get booked to do these things thus making he on screen character is sh@t.

doesn't if the company books him this way.

So what do you think when CM Punk / Austin / Rock / DX come to the ring in their own merchandise then? I fail to see how you can use the fact his t-shirts sell as a reason to hate him! Do you also hate Austin and that cursed '3:16' thing he launched?

You remind me very much of a small child, who knows he's wrong and can't come up with anything more conclusive to debate that putting your fingers in your ears and squealing 'I'm right! You're wrong!'.

Also, I'm slightly mystified by that last sentence - what doesn't if the company books him this way? You'll start liking him if he loses more? As for the 'He beats 90% of his opponents!'... he's a main event babyface. of course he'll win more than he loses. Look at Batista - couldn;t stop winning as a good guy, goes down the fabled heel path, and he did more jobs than a hooker at a Premiership football club's Christmas party.

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:55 pm

People criticising Cena this week make me sick

It's not just Punk making this a hot feud.

by Gregers Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:57 pm

Very well said Demon

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:57 pm

Electric Demon wrote:People criticising Cena this week make me sick

It's not just Punk making this a hot feud.

Got a bit of a thing for Cena have we, Demon?? randy

by Mr H Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:00 pm

Electric Demon wrote:People criticising Cena this week make me sick

It's not just Punk making this a hot feud.

I agree, Vince is playing his part, Cena is third.

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:06 pm

Clarke James wrote:
Electric Demon wrote:People criticising Cena this week make me sick

It's not just Punk making this a hot feud.

Got a bit of a thing for Cena have we, Demon??

I've always defended Cena because he's great at what he's there to do.

And the past few weeks he's ramped his style up something special to keep up with Punk.

(And around Wrestlemania, I don't care how big The Rock is, how much people love him, and how "spine tingling" his return was - I can't stand that people can't admit that Cena beat him in the promos)

I don't mind criticism - it's the name of the forum game. But when credit isn't given where credit is due - it renders any criticism from those people past, present or future, null and void.

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:31 pm

a mark for cena just can't handle it.

So your cena is one of a kind,say any other wrestler was in his spot he wouldn't be able to do what cena does?

You can have your opinion and I have mine.

You could have Matt Damon dressed up as him,say what it says on the script and you wouldn't know it was him.

I'm going on what I see from cena on a week to week basis

Cena hasnt got one stand out quality,simple.

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:34 pm

Neither have you

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:36 pm

We're well aware you have your opinion, you've made 4 threads about it.

Jesus, i thought school's were still open?!

by Scott is Back Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:41 pm

HitmanOwl

Cena

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:42 pm

Target audience for cena is women and kids?

Anyone over the age of 16 male wearing cena merch is joke.

by DemonicTruthSpeaker Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:43 pm

Scott is Back wrote:HitmanOwl Cena

Post of the Day!

I'm always amused when someone can't back up their point, they just break open the old 'You're a mark!' argument.

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:47 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:Target audience for cena is women and kids?

Anyone over the age of 16 male wearing cena merch is joke.

What's that got to do with anything?

Your opinion is a joke because you can't give credit where it's due

by Scott is Back Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:48 pm

DemonicTruthSpeaker wrote:
Scott is Back wrote:HitmanOwl Cena

Post of the Day!

I'm always amused when someone can't back up their point, they just break open the old 'You're a mark!' argument.

This make's me so proud!

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:49 pm

Electric Demon wrote:
HitmanOwl wrote:Target audience for cena is women and kids?

Anyone over the age of 16 male wearing cena merch is joke.

What's that got to do with anything?

Your opinion is a joke because you can't give credit where it's due

He also can't back it up with any evidence or examples.

Poorly thought out argument. Next he'll be throwing out 'my dad's bigger than your dad'.

by slikolas Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:02 pm

I was going to do a 10 reasons why the opening post sucks, but I had way more than 10 all with valid a legitimate reasons. And I just don't have the time.

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:03 pm

If everyone contirbutes a few each we could have a poll?

by wwinterj Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:05 pm

10 Reasons Why Cena Sucks

1. I agree with this. His in ring skill is terrible. Nothing more to add to this.

2. I also agree here. It doesn't matter how he is booked he should still at least sell a move correctly. If he doesn't it doesn't just make him look bad but also the other guys he's wrestling.

3. His promo works certainly needs more work. He just states the Obvious and comes across as cheesy.

4. The kids understand. That's all that matters.....

5. I've seen better merchandise sure.

6. He does have a lot of wins but again this is to send the kids home happy. Not his fault personally if he's booked to win but he could sell the match more.

7. He wishes he was gay. That is why also kids find gay jokes funny.

8. Maybe not but Punk as a example certainly is coming of better is Cenas recent feud.

9. I agree. His movies suck to but hey a guy's gotta make a living.

10. Agreed

At the end of the day I don't hate cena but he does nothing no other guy could do if there Vinces golden boy. He's just there for the kids and that's why he acts like one and says things a kid would say. I mean just look at his in ring gear. That's somthing a 12 year old chav would ware. Most the people here defending him are no doubt kids. The rest well, I'm not sure what they are. Drool

by Lex-Express Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:05 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:Target audience for cena is women and kids?

Anyone over the age of 16 male wearing cena merch is joke.

Dont tell that to Lionblood...ive seen his facebook pictures lol

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:05 pm

Welcome back Slik

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:06 pm

Funny nobody answers your questions,cena your loverboy?

by Fernando Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:08 pm

your walking a very fine line hitman - homophobic jibes won't be tolerated

by slikolas Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:09 pm

Sup Demon. I must have been through a time machine or similar as apparently I've come back to 606 as a 12 year old according to winterJ. That or I watch a televison program that is openly aimed at children now, and as such the main star is the biggest way they can Target the audience for merchandise.

by Francis Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:09 pm

Anybody else get the feeling the Mr Owl is one of Cena's jilted ex-lovers?

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:09 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:7. He's homophobic

I.e when doing a promo he always references to gay people

HitmanOwl wrote:Funny nobody answers your questions,cena your loverboy?

by Francis Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:11 pm

Be careful Demon, his dads bigger than your dad...

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:12 pm

Electric Demon wrote:
HitmanOwl wrote:7. He's homophobic

I.e when doing a promo he always references to gay people

HitmanOwl wrote:Funny nobody answers your questions,cena your loverboy?

Can you hear that??????

Oh, it's ok, it's just Hitman's closet door closing!

by HitmanOwl Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:13 pm

At least some people get it. I think gaffer sums it up perfect.

by **Enforcer** Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:14 pm

Demon if you take off your Cena T-shirt and sweatband perhaps you're opinions will hold more weight Wink

by Fernando Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:14 pm

homophobic jibes won't be tolerated, if you keep it up guys i will lock it

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:15 pm

Enforcer wrote:Demon if you take off your Cena T-shirt and sweatband perhaps you're opinions will hold more weight

But then his moobs will be on show!!

by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:16 pm

Enforcer wrote:Demon if you take off your Cena T-shirt and sweatband perhaps you're opinions will hold more weight

But then I'd be naked???

And then I might get bummed

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:16 pm

HitmanOwl wrote:At least some people get it. I think gaffer sums it up perfect.

by Beer Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:17 pm

Electric Demon wrote:
Enforcer wrote:Demon if you take off your Cena T-shirt and sweatband perhaps you're opinions will hold more weight

But then I'd be naked???

And then I might get bummed

Guess what's coming.......

That's right....

randy

by **Enforcer** Tue Jul 12, 2011 4:17 pm

So you're currently sat at the computer wearing nothing but a Cena t-shirt and sweatband?

Where's the vomit smilie when you need one?

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