The US Open Draw

socal1976 wrote:Of course sportslover and Craig, there is no guarantee, I mean we could have an upset riddled draw like Canada. But again, Novak gets the worst of it from the outset. He isn't getting the benefit of his #1 seeding that is for sure. If he gets the second match on stupid saturday he is screwed with all the matches and the sore shoulder he is fighting. When are people going to recognize malfeasance. We are talking about 6 straight slams when his odds should be only 50 percent of getting Roger?

CaledonianCraig wrote:The thing is socal, and I know you realise it as well, no matter what the draw from the semis onwards it was always going to get tough no matter who Novak got. Would you have been happier drawing defending champion Rafael Nadal? Don't see how and yes I know his form has dipped but the same can be said of Federer. Would you have been happier with Murray? Perhaps you would have but even then you'd have Federer or Nadal waiting in the Final. Whatever way you look at it it was going to be tough.

socal1976 wrote:The number #1 seed deserves the breaks but unfortunately again the #1 seed gets a tougher draw than the #4 seed Andy murray.

noleisthebest wrote:"The one thing before any of the aforementioned happens is - They have to get THAT FAR before any of it can, and there is no guarantee that will be the case."

you talk like you've never played a(ny) sport...I'd be amazed if Novak does not make it to the semi-final. As for the other three, Murray is the most fragile, then current Nadal then current Federer. candidates, but just look at all the other slams this year, that's where the chips are down and they all play full-on. It's called QUALITY....

laverfan wrote:If you want I can research who played the first SF and second SF each year. But do you see how tough it is to win (and win it more than once). Wink

wow wrote:This defies all the probabilities. Every time the draw is similar Nadal v Murray, Fed v Djoko. No matter whatever seedings are.

time please wrote:

laverfan wrote:If you want I can research who played the first SF and second SF each year. But do you see how tough it is to win (and win it more than once). Wink

That would be really interesting laver. Think Fed def played second semi in 2005 and 2009 and first in 2008, but can't remember the rest.

luciusmann wrote:Laverfan, I meant the Fed-Tsonga match @ Montreal, just me being a little forgetful! There's no way Berdych will get past Djokovic so the only significant opponent I see for Fed is Tsonga before the semis.

emancipator wrote:Oh SHUT IT Socal..

Your whining has reached ridiculous proportions.

You've done nothing but whine about the draw before it was made, since it was made, and no doubt will continue to do so until well after the tournament is over.

Your conspiracy theory is a rubbish theory with no proof whatsoever to substantiate it.

Whatever the draw, c'est la vie, get over it,

You sound like the cry baby in the playground that just wont stop CRYING.

socal1976 wrote:Why isn't Nadal required to play Federer in every single semi at a grandslam to be a legend? Federer is slumping now but this is 6th straight grandslam that Novak has gotten put into Roger's half. 3rd straight since he has stopped being the #3 player and become the number #2 or #1 player. Like I said Djokovic's accomplishments are multiplied due to the tough competition he has had from FEdal and the draw rigging that he has had to fight with the grandslam committee. Don't worry I am sure if Roger fades even more and Murray gets stronger than the tournament committee will start giving Novak Andy in his half pretending that now well it all evens out. Wrong it doesn't, it doesn't make up for 6 straight grandslams getting the short straw while Roger and Rafa are both still viable. At this point, Novak has already played Roger and Rafa 2 and half times as much as Andy has had to play them. 51 matches against Fedal and draw rigging on top of that to accomplish what he has, in short Djoko's 3 slams are really like 6 or 7. The draw rigging probably already has cost him the french open this year. That and the ridiculous scheduling and the unfortunate Fogi incident. Really, with a sore shoulder and staring down the barrel of the late match on stupid saturday this grandslam has practically been fixed from the outset and all the breaks given to Nadal and Murray, I can't really value their accomplishments as much if they do win it at this point. If anything the committee is gifting murray his first slam or in the alternate gifting Nadal his 11th slam.

Like I said Djokovic's accomplishments are multiplied due to the tough competition he has had from FEdal and the draw rigging that he has had to fight with the grandslam committee. Don't worry I am sure if Roger fades even more and Murray gets stronger than the tournament committee will start giving Novak Andy in his half pretending that now well it all evens out. Wrong it doesn't, it doesn't make up for 6 straight grandslams getting the short straw while Roger and Rafa are both still viable.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
Federer it seems will never meet Nadal in a semi, put that in your bookmark folks....

socal1976 wrote:Positevly 4th street, evidence has been provided by a Phd statistician showing the draw isn't random and therefore manufactured. Draw rigging has already cost novak the tainted RG championship of 2011, in the future I wonder how many more grandslams it costs him. So is it your contention that for Novak to deserve a grandslam he must be drawn against both GOAT candidates in every slam?

I was being a little sarcastic with the mulitiply Novak's grandslams by 2 thing. Maybe a little wummery on my part. But frankly, I do believe that a combination of draw rigging and poor scheduling contributed greatly to his demise at RG. I am not the only one who is questioning this and evidence has been provided on another thread.

legendkillar wrote:That guy with the PHD can kiss my ass. He ain't proved a god damn thing apart from adds and chances.

Luck of the draw as they say.