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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:40 pm

Better units I think Nick, not just about individuals a lot of the time. Look at Mujati this season, he's had trouble against most LH's but looks a world beater with Tonga and Hartley beside him

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:49 pm

Bonnaire - 'wilko cant handle the pressure'

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3818_7228203,00.html

Would love wilkinson to come back and say 'France can't beat Tonga, a side the Saxons beat by 40+ points...'

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:53 pm

anyone read greenwood's latest blog? Reckons England by 14 points, says having Flood and Wilko playing will pin the French right back and unleash our backthree and Tuilagi.

Says that Tuilagi has been causing defences all sorts of problems and imagine what he will do when England start spreading the ball wide and actually put him into gaps.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:45 am

Aus side to face SA:

1. Kepu
2. Moore
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8. Samo

9. Genia
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15. Beale

Rumours going around Bakkies is retiring from Int rugby after injuring his achillies. If so, total legend...one of fav locks ever.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:46 am

New Zealand:
15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11 Sonny Bill Williams, 10 Colin Slade, 9 Piri Weepu, 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (c), 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Brad Thorn, 4 Samuel Whitelock, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Tony Woodcock.

Replacements: 16 Andrew Hore, 17 Ben Franks, 18 Ali Williams, 19 Victor Vito, 20 Jimmy Cowan, 21 Aaron Cruden, 22 Isaia Toeava.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:51 am

SBW on the wing....jesus, hard call on Kahui, read Guidlford was injured also.

Can see Weepu/Slade really clicking, takes the pressure off goalkicking for the young lad (He's norm an 85%+ in S15 and ITM!?!?). Think Weepu manages better too although isn't as crisp as Cowen.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:01 am

No Kahui is harsh, and neither him nor Dagg on the bench?!?

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:02 am

Kahui and Dagg are both injured

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Oct 07, 2011 11:03 am

Ah....

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:14 pm

Guys what do people make of Julian Savea? Would be keen to get people's thoughts on him as he's got a lot of potential (8 tries in 12 games) and was world young player of the year in 2010.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:24 pm

Savea is a decent attacking threat, but lazy in defence Chris. He is also suspect under the high ball and in poor conditions would be a defensive liability for me.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:41 pm

Agree with Pete, good with ball in hand but not great in defence. Would get ripped to shreads some of the wingers in this league

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:57 pm

Do you think he'll get better, or offload job?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:04 pm

Difficult to say really, but from the outside lookin g in he doesn't seem like he has a great desire to knuckle down and to get to the very top of the game.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:10 pm

Who knows Chris, might take another few years, might not happen. There's a plethora of wing talent in NZ, Hosea Gear was 25/26 before he got Int recognition

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:12 pm

That;s the problem I have - if he did knuckle down then he could be absolute world class, but if he doesnt he's just a good club player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:15 pm

Same with many players I guess though, there's about 15 better wingers in NZ currently

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:29 pm

Tuilagi straight into the Leicester side, but Castro has got a dodgy hammy so not included.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:31 pm

I wonder why weren't allowed to select Losi and Ansbro then? Puzzling.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:33 pm

Dickinson and Vernon straight into Sale squad (on the bench) for Gloucester game

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Post by Driver Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:41 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:I wonder why weren't allowed to select Losi and Ansbro then? Puzzling.

Toby Booth is a great player manager and may want to reward the players playing well at the moment
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:45 pm

Oh, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have started either of them this week, but stnick said we weren't allowed to select them anyway.

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15. Tom Homer; 14. Topsy Ojo*; 13. Jonathan Joseph; 12. Steve Shingler; 11. Adam Thompstone; 10. Dan Bowden; 9. Darren Allinson;

1. Clarke Dermody* (Captain); 2. David Paice*; 3. Faan Rautenbach*; 4. Nick Kennedy*; 5. Bryn Evans*; 6. Declan Danaher; 7. Jamie Gibson; 8. Chris Hala'ufia*

Replacements : 16. James Buckland; 17. Max Lahiff; 18. Paulica Ion*; 19. David Sisi; 20. Alex Gray; 21. Guy Armitage; 22. Adrian Jarvis; 23. Paul Hodgson*

Pretty happy with that to be fair. At home we should have enough to get the TBP against a dogged but unimaginative Worcester outfit.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:51 pm

Wasps have named a near full strength team versus Bath this weekend - with Robinson back in the 10 shirt I fully expect a win. Just wish we had more than Payne and Broster - Castex looks good every time I see him, but never starts and we also had a young Argentinian we signed who doesnt get near match day squad yet.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:53 pm

Probably our best backrow. Corbs and Garvey only way you could improve that pack really.

I was told they werent allowed to be selected. strange if Tuilagi is playing as Tagicakibau is still in NZ or Samoa, although he is injured.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:56 pm

I'd have liked to see Danaher and Gibson the other way round stnick, but am guessing as they both can play 6 or 7 the numbers don't really matter and they'll share the responsibilities.
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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:59 pm

exactly

Danaher has always been a 6 whereas Gibson has time to develop.
Can see Gibson becoming a bit of a Moody and play as a 6.5.

Interested to see what sort of a team Booth will put out in the LV. Be good to see Spratt, Guy Armitage, Watson, Lahiff, Sandford get games, but also people like Ansbro, Sinclair and Ion.

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Post by Driver Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:06 pm

Pete/nick how is thompstone getting on he got a 8 in the rugby paper last week vs glaws
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:08 pm

I've only seen highlights of the game driver, but from what I saw and have heard from people who went to the game, our backline looked dangerous despite our pack getting a bit of a shoeing, and Thompstone provided some good go forward out wide.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:13 pm

in my opinion he hasnt been the same player since his bad injury. thats not to say he wont get back to that, but he used to be a great try scorer and played a bit like ashton, tracking well. he hasnt scored since his return but im sure once he gets one try his confidence will boost and should improve his performances.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:36 pm

stnick

people on The Craic saying that Hala'ufia and Rautenbach have both been citied from the Glaws game, but I can't find anything official on it. Any knowledge?
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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:52 pm

Faan got cited for illegally entering a ruck, pretty ridiculous citing he did barely anything wrong.

Hoff will probably get a ban, was a pretty sick tackle/flying headbutt/forearm smash. although, the fact that he is playing on sunday is a good sign as usually a team would 'lay off' a player if they expect him to be banned as it helps to reduce the length of the ban. and it may of been decided that a yellow was ok.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:56 pm

That is a nonsense one for Faan, but I think we all expected Hoff to get cited and banned. I did wonder when I saw him in the team for this week.

My understanding of the process is that the citing can only upheld by the panel if they deem it should have been a red, as the referee clearly saw it and dealt with it.

Would love to see what the referees report says about. I'll have no complaints if Hoff does get banned for it as it was a hefty and pretty reckless hit, but the fact that Morgan hasn't ended up injured as a result may help him if his argument is along the lines of 'it looked worse than it was'.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 3:59 pm

I'm gutted cos I really wanted to go on Sunday, but two of my daughters have got things that they need taking to in different locations so I have to take one and won't get back until about half two! Sad
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Post by Driver Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:02 pm

It's on Sky pete
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:05 pm

Yeah I know Driver, just wanted to actually go to the game, haven't managed to get to any so far this season due to work and family commitments.
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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:11 pm

the hearing for both of them is Monday.

I'm not going either, out on the p iss Saturday night and have football Sunday morning so cant be bothered to drive there on sunday afternoon, if it wasnt on TV i would. also my season ticket this year is in the guiness lounge which is full of screaming kids, dont fancy that with a hangover.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:12 pm

The following Saracens players are available, some will obviously require better deals than others.

George Chuter
Scott Lawson
Bob Casey
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:44 pm

rautenbach cited for Striking apparently

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:21 pm

Nick Evans prem player of the month Smile

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Post by prop_lyd Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:57 pm

Anyone else just seen how well Ben Morgan just played??!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:46 am

Entertaining first half. Sam Warburton been absolutely superb and giving Ireland's back row a schooling. Wales need to suck in more defenders and then send it wider to Shane and North when they get the ball quick. The defence will take it out of the Welsh though so could work against them.

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Post by Guest Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:51 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:rautenbach cited for Striking apparently

A sign that faan can actually move. I
Imagine Irish put a mirror under his nose to see if he is still breathing. Dreadful player. In o'reillys dusseldorf 07.50 packed with paddys and the cider is hard work at this time

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:09 am

wonderful try from Phillips

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:15 am

Ireland dominating breakdown and possession, Wales are just so clinical & defence superb.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:28 am

Welsh backrow have really stood up so far, been so clever the way they have played the Irish. Warburton and Lydiate have been awesome - the Irish have looked awful today.

Hopefully I wont get marked down for playing Phillips anymore :-)

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:39 am

Ho wmany people are signing Welsh players in the next window then?

Steven, you might have got the best deal going when you signed Warburton.

Kind of glad Wales won as if England go through have far more hope of us beating them. Now very nervous about the England game!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:44 am

Wouldn't say Ireland dominated the breakdown? Both sides won most of their own apart from a few turnovers from Warburton and BOD (SOB might have got one as well)

I reckon that was probably Wales' final in all honesty

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Post by Driver Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:45 am

Come on England!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:46 am

Awsome Welsh defensive play, got to credit Edwards with the way he had them set out. Think that won them the game in the first.

SOB was totally kept quiet, can't believe it! Warbs was good on defense but again was pretty quiet, esp at the breakdown where I didn't see him have any impact.

A couple of good games in 3 years doesn't me like Phillips lol. He still plays his own game and looks for contact too much.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:50 am

Phillips was sensational today, in wet conditions where you need a physical game then there is no one better.

I thought Warburton was incredible today, certainly not quiet mate - not sure what game you were watching as he was all over the park, slowing Irish ball and leading the Welsh brilliantly.

Nervous about this now...

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