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Post by Brady12 Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:36 pm

First topic message reminder :

Hopefully this will spark some debate, what do you like/dislike that goes against the general status quo....

ED please refrain from commenting... your man crush on Heath Slater has inspired this post.....

1987 - 1992 > Attitude Era

Triple H vs Taker Wrestlemania 27 was not a classic

The GTS is a terrible move often poorly executed

The greatest heel in WWE history is without doubt Vince McMahon


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Post by Brady12 Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:32 pm

I can understand you thinking (& perhaps people not even realising) the English bias but he's a complete natural on the stick....

I think given very limited experience & television exposure he did fantastically well in his fued with Cena last year - Even if by the end end of it all Nexus were booked as a joke next to Super-Cena

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Post by Mr H Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:56 pm

Wade Barrett is very good on the mic. He's crystal clear and very confident. Wade is without doubt the best English talker the WWE has seen. Miles better than Regal.

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Post by The Awesome Giz Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:57 pm

I have to admit wrestling is rubbish in general.

But I still love it.

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Post by Kay Fabe Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:02 pm

I'm not fussed about him being crystal clear, I can understand what he says, he just doesn't make me want to listen, I don't rate him

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Post by Brady12 Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:49 pm

No one has yet ellaborated on the fact HBK is over rated????

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:03 am

I have noticed a certain degree of pro british bias on these boards in the past, only a few years ago many were claiming that Barrett and McIntyre were the future of the WWE and that Regal should have been world champion, personally in terms of guys who could have made the very top in US wrestling only Chris Adams springs to mind for me, and in terms of the current crop of brits I don't see anyone changing that.

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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:54 am

I watch every minute of Raw, Smackdown and the PPVs and enjoy it.

Im looking forward to Kevin Nash getting back in the ring.

John Laurianitis is doing good in his role. ("dont make me take my jacket off" - classic)

Mr Kennedy should come back to the WWE.

I preferred the normal IC belt to the retro belt which Cody Rhodes revived.

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Post by Gregers Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:03 am

Punk wouldn't be in my top 10 wrestlers at the moment

My favourite Wrestlemanias are X8 and 21

I want legend killer randy Orton back

The pg era is far better than the attitude era

My favourite commentators are josh Matthews and Matt Striker

Daniel Bryan has the charisma of a table

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Post by DemonicTruthSpeaker Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:42 am

CM Punk should take all his t-shirts with 'Best In The World' written on them... and give them to Randy Orton.

I think Kofi Kingston should receive a main event push.


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Post by Gregers Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:52 am

The current best in the world is Dolph Ziggler

John Cena is without a doubt in the top 10 superstars of all time

Husky Harris will be WWE champion within 3 years


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Post by Shot 21 LCFC Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:21 am

"The pg era is far better than the attitude era"

Wow. Really? Wow.

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Post by DonIffy Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:23 am

I agree with Shot 21 LCFC that's taking things to far lol


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Post by Gregers Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:41 am

The attitude era wasn't actually that great and had a lot of stupid booking. The hand baby, katie vick etc.

It goes:
Ruthless Aggression
Pg
New Gen
Attitude

Imo

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Post by Mr H Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:09 am

Husky Harris will be WWE Champion within 3 years? Thats almost as likely as Heath Slater being IC champion next year.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:19 am

Husky Harris was one of the his that Cena said would make it big when they eventually full time come out of development. If Cena rates him then Vince will listen! His brother Bo Rotunda got good reviews too.

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Post by Brady12 Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:27 am

Mr H wrote:Husky Harris will be WWE Champion within 3 years? Thats almost as likely as Heath Slater being IC champion next year.

There the two most outlandish ones I've heard.... Husky Harris, he couldn't draw a stick man at the minute, to say he'll be World Champ in 3 years is bold to put it mildly

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Post by AberdeenSteve Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:31 am

I don't particularly rate Harris but like I said in a previous post, he got a good review from Cena so that must count for something.

If there was to be a monster heel or fat guy to next be champion it has to be Brodus Clay!

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:52 am

Mr H wrote:Husky Harris will be WWE Champion within 3 years? Thats almost as likely as Heath Slater being IC champion next year.

I said by Wrestlemania 2013.

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Post by Gregers Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:18 pm

Since moving back to FCW husky has improved no end. He's also only 24 which for someone with his ability is terrifying!

He will be world champ by 2014 or 2015 at the latest

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Post by Statto00 Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:27 pm

Gregers wrote:Since moving back to FCW husky has improved no end.
Where do you get to watch FCW and ROH? Is it just by trawling through YouTube?

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Post by Gregers Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:38 pm

FCW is YouTube mainly. Their shows are amazing tho.

ROH I have a free account on rohwrestling.com which allows you to watch the shows.

Imo FCW is the best show at the moment.

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Post by ADMIN Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:41 pm

I concur on that about FCW.
Dean Ambrose FTW!

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Post by Lex-Express Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:15 pm

Hero - Ambrose

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E.D - Slater

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Post by Adam D Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:20 pm

Lex-Express wrote:Hero - Ambrose

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E.D - Slater

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Hobo - The Ultimate Warrior

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:21 pm

Lex-Express wrote:Hero - Ambrose

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E.D - Slater

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Is this a simultaneous equation?

x = Brodus Clay

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Post by Kay Fabe Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:46 pm

Dr Gregory House MD wrote:I have noticed a certain degree of pro british bias on these boards in the past, only a few years ago many were claiming that Barrett and McIntyre were the future of the WWE and that Regal should have been world champion, personally in terms of guys who could have made the very top in US wrestling only Chris Adams springs to mind for me, and in terms of the current crop of brits I don't see anyone changing that.
Chris Adams is a great shout, he is one of my favourites, he was for me the best Brit but I think Nigel McGuinness/Desmond Wolfe runs him close and even he is miles ahead of Barrett when it comes to promoing

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Post by MtotheC Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:07 pm

Greggers i dont wanna single you out mate but:

"The current best in the world is Dolph Ziggler"

"John Cena is without a doubt in the top 10 superstars of all time"

"Husky Harris will be WWE champion within 3 years"

"The pg era is far better than the attitude era"

These four must be in the top draw of unpopular wrestling opinions atm, i think you are trying to be controversial Whistle

I seriously dont know where to begin, so i wont!

but i will say that imo husky has a big future in pro-wrestling, he needs to look at what Samo Joe has achieved and go along the same road in terms of gimmick, fighting style and attitude, i think he could be the wwe's version

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Post by Dr Gregory House MD Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:10 pm

the-gaffer wrote:
Dr Gregory House MD wrote:I have noticed a certain degree of pro british bias on these boards in the past, only a few years ago many were claiming that Barrett and McIntyre were the future of the WWE and that Regal should have been world champion, personally in terms of guys who could have made the very top in US wrestling only Chris Adams springs to mind for me, and in terms of the current crop of brits I don't see anyone changing that.
Chris Adams is a great shout, he is one of my favourites, he was for me the best Brit but I think Nigel McGuinness/Desmond Wolfe runs him close and even he is miles ahead of Barrett when it comes to promoing

Nigel Doh I knew something wasn't coming to mind when I wrote that last night, I agree McGuninness was a very complete package in terms of wrestling ability and probably could have softened his style if he had ever been given a chance in the 'E.

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Post by AberdeenSteve Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:15 pm

I feel we had the right to be overly excited when Barrett and McIntyre arrived in the WWE.

McIntyre, whilst his promo work could be improved, his in ring work has fantastic intensity to it and I honestly think with a manager he'd be brilliant in the WWE.

Barrett, I have explained previously is the complete package and I really enjoy watching him on Smackdown. His recent push is well deserved IMO.

Can't disagree that if McGuinness had been in the WWE he'd have been a top guy but I honestly think that Barrett has the tools to reach the top too.

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Post by MtotheC Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:21 pm

i maybe wrong but didnt McGuinness turn down the opportunity of working for wwe in favor of tna?

I think in recent/modern times he has been our best export

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Post by Kay Fabe Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:34 pm

The WWE didn't sign him after he failed a medical

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Post by Gregers Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:54 pm

MtotheC wrote:Greggers i dont wanna single you out mate but:

"The current best in the world is Dolph Ziggler"

"John Cena is without a doubt in the top 10 superstars of all time"

"Husky Harris will be WWE champion within 3 years"

"The pg era is far better than the attitude era"

These four must be in the top draw of unpopular wrestling opinions atm, i think you are trying to be controversial Whistle

I seriously dont know where to begin, so i wont!

but i will say that imo husky has a big future in pro-wrestling, he needs to look at what Samo Joe has achieved and go along the same road in terms of gimmick, fighting style and attitude, i think he could be the wwe's version

I honestly believe Dolph is the current best in the world.

Cena is in the top 10 of all time, or at least will be when he retires. Right place right time? Yes. But I do feel people ignore how good he actually is.

Husky will be champ in 3 years, mark my words

I've never got the love for the attitude era and actually having gone back and watched parts of it again I believe the pg era is on the whole better. My favourite era was the ruthless aggression one though.

Another one?

SmackDown has always been better than Raw...

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Post by MtotheC Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:58 pm

fairs squares gregers... atm smackdown is considerably better

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Post by Adam D Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:59 pm

Well, the most unpopular opinion, that I have held for some time and continue to support in the face of all the members of 606v2.

TNA is more enjoyable than WWE.

Bite me.

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Post by MtotheC's Wrasslin Biatch Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:21 pm

Great Technical Wrestling = Boring TV Show

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Post by Lex-Express Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:40 pm

Im with you on that one Hobo

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Post by MtotheC Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:06 am

I actually want the hardy brothers to succeed in their careers

TNA has a more talented roster than wwe, from lower and mid card through to main event, it's stronger overall

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Post by psycho-gooner Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:02 am

Randy Orton is boring now he's received the Cena treatment.

Sheamus' character just ooozes heel, him as a face doesnt make sense

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:29 am

Beat me to it psycho


Orton is so boring, I don't mind him getting wins but heel orton was 1000 times better than fan favourite

Christian should leave wwe, he deserves better than coming out as loser in feuds with orton and sheamus





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Post by Kay Fabe Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:31 pm

Christian losing World Title matches to Randy Orton sure beats the crap out of him jobbing out to Raven and Kaz in the midcard in TNA what he essentially ended up doing in his final year in TNA

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Post by BloscarPit09-ASK_HIM Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:11 pm

Andre the Giant vs Hulk Hogan WM3 was a terrible match

Stone Cold is now rather repetitive and boring whenever he makes an appearance

John Cena is capable of having brilliant matches when creative give him a chance

Michael Cole is now a better commentator than Jim Ross

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:19 pm

I'm a fan of Nash, Hall and Waltman and would love to see the all three of them back in the WWE (Yes I know that won't happen with Hall's state, but you know, this is what the thread is for)

I hope that the Undertaker's streak is never broken.

Mr Anderson should be TNA Champion at the moment.

If Rikishi and Maven returned to the WWE, I would cry through marking out.

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Post by TopoftheChops Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:45 am

I think the Miz will be the face of WWE by 2013.

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Post by Stonee21 Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:01 am

Dicey Reilly wrote:Shaun Michaels is overrated IMO


I have to disagree completely with this! In the 90's he was one of the greatest heels in history.

His matches were brilliant whether it be a singles one or a special match.
First person to compete in a HIAC and to many it is still the best HIAC.
His ladder matches especially with Razor over the IC title were brilliant as was the casket match with Taker.
He still managed to put in a fantastic showing against Austin at Wrestlemania even with a broken back.
Then he comes back after 4 years out with no ring rust and puts on a brutal street fight match with HHH.
Won the first Elimination Chamber.
The first ever man to start the Rumble and win, the first ever grand slam champion.
Stole the show with Flair in what should of been Flairs last match after taking a nasty bump on a table that never gave when he made impact.
Put on an even better match against Taker and in my opinion carried Taker in the second match which I feel is backed up further going on his showing against HHH.
He put people over regularly on his return and made them look good doing it like with Mr Kennedy, Cena, Orton, Angle, Jericho etc.
And finally was still going strong without any real signs of slowing down right up to his retirement, how many wrestlers so you see calling it quits at the right time?

For me all of these point show just how good he really was, it says something when the WWE know they can always count on you to always deliver a good match especially when you have had what many believed a career ending injury when you're in your mid 40's, the guy was just that good.

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Post by Statto00 Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:26 am

Stonee21 wrote:I have to disagree completely with this!

Isn't that the point of this thread? Rolling Eyes

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Post by AberdeenSteve Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:12 am

Leone wrote:I'm a fan of Nash, Hall and Waltman and would love to see the all three of them back in the WWE (Yes I know that won't happen with Hall's state, but you know, this is what the thread is for)

I hope that the Undertaker's streak is never broken.

Mr Anderson should be TNA Champion at the moment.

If Rikishi and Maven returned to the WWE, I would cry through marking out.


I think I would too Crying or Very sad

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Post by crippledtart Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:46 pm

the-gaffer wrote:The Million Dollar Man is seriously overrated, he was great in 1988 but after that he was never as entertaining, he wasn't bad but never understand when he's put on a 'shoulda been world champion' list

I agree. He was much better in his pre-WWF career. I think he could have been champion in 1988 but after his run with Hogan and Savage was over he settled into the upper midcard heel role well and that was where he belonged.

I will add to this list:

- Mr Perfect, Rick Rude and Jake Roberts were never at any point during any of their WWF careers good enough to represent the company as world champion, in my opinion

- I don't like Shawn Michaels. I think he's a great wrestler but I can't stand his wrestling persona or what I have witnessed of his actual personality (even the reformed version). I'll go as far as to say that I don't actually understand why people would like Shawn Michaels as a person! I find him that irritating.

- I think Scott Hall was an average wrestler and an average talker. He had charisma, but I don't think he had the charisma to be the number one star in a promotion

- I think Davey Boy Smith might have been the most boring wrestler who ever lived, and I believe that if he wasn't British most people on this board would barely remember him

- Finally, a positive one. I think that Eddie Guerrero was actually underrated as a performer and should have been an even bigger star than he was, and WWE should have made him the centrepiece character on Smackdown in 2003 and run with it, rather than waiting two years to give him a genuine main event push

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Post by AberdeenSteve Sun Nov 13, 2011 1:04 pm

I am enjoying the current Big Show v Mark Henry feud.

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Post by Bull Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:12 pm

Orton is Boring as a face turn him Heel!

I would like to see Taker v Orton ( legend Killer) at wrestle mania again

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Post by Stonee21 Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:40 pm

Statto00 wrote:
Stonee21 wrote:I have to disagree completely with this!

Isn't that the point of this thread? Rolling Eyes

Yes but no one else had argued against it and someone on this thread was surprised that no one had argued against it which was why I posted.

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