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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Fri 25 Nov 2011, 12:12 pm

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THOMOND PARK - 8.30pm - Live on BBC Alba

Edinburgh XXIII:

15 Chris Paterson

14 Sep Visser
13 Jim Thompson
12 James King
11 Tom Brown

10 Phil Godman
9 Mike Blair

1 Kyle Traynor
2 Steven Lawrie CAPTAIN
3 Jack Gilding
4 Sean Cox
5 Steven Turnbull
6 Netani Talei
7 Ross Rennie
8 Stuart McInally

Substitutes
16 Andrew Kelly
17 Robin Hislop
18 Lewis Niven
19 Esteban Lozada
20 Roddy Grant
21 Greig Laidlaw
22 Harry Leonard
23 Gregor Hunter

Matt Scott and Dumper Denton still injured, Ross Ford, Tim MacVisser (altho little brother Sepp plays) Le Jones, NDL and Grant Gilchrist rested from the pack after their heroics vs RM, Lozada takes a break on the bench with Turnbull packing down with the returning-after-ban Sean Cox, Andy Kelly back from injury, (good)Godman gets his chance returning from a long injury, Traynor and Gilding not the strongest front row, with Hislop and Niven as cover. Jim Thompson moves to OC to make way for Mossy, and Tom Brown moves to the wing for Jones. Youngsters Leonard and Hunter on the bench will hopefully get some more gametime to continue with their development OK


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Post by red_stag Sun 27 Nov 2011, 4:50 pm

Earls wont play til January
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Post by red_stag Sun 27 Nov 2011, 4:51 pm

Earls wont play til January
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Post by Thomond Sun 27 Nov 2011, 4:54 pm

I hear Earls won't play til January? Wink


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Post by BlueMuff Sun 27 Nov 2011, 5:19 pm

When is Jones back?

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Post by MBTGOG Sun 27 Nov 2011, 6:33 pm

Have seen the tries but don't have the time to watch the whole game. Can people tell me what they thought of O'Dea?


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Post by Thomond Sun 27 Nov 2011, 6:35 pm

Munsty, I posted a bit about him in the pub. He looked threatenign with the ball but didn't get a whole lot. Was solid definsively and his positioning was pretty good aswell. He looked to have a decent kicking game too.

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Post by valjester Sun 27 Nov 2011, 6:49 pm

red_stag wrote:Earls wont play til January

I thought he was only out for 3-4 weeks and that he was progressing well?

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Sun 27 Nov 2011, 7:32 pm

Poor young Jack Gilding was given a man-beasting by veteran Marcus Horan - don't think he managed parity even at a single scrum.

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Post by ME-109 Sun 27 Nov 2011, 10:49 pm

Odea was poor enough defensively (a little bit inexperienced) but attacling he looks very promising.

When Earls comes back he will go to oc as he is munster and irelands next best. The criticism of him is that he cant link with others but no one seems to remember a young bod couldn't pass a ball for love nor money but developed over time.

Why say the back three is between hurley, howlett, jones, zebo, murphy and earls when we have numerous combinations in midfield and the back three available.

Best backline for munster for me ( with options)
Jones/hurley/Murphy
Howlett/
Zebo/hurley
Earls/ mafi
Chambers/ barnes
Rog/ keatley
Tol/murray

Some good options, plus you have deasy, odea, and others coming through

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Post by red_stag Sun 27 Nov 2011, 10:54 pm

I used to think Deasy had a lot to offer now I dont see it. I think Hanrahan will cover 10 and 12 in two years or so when ROG is gone
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Post by ME-109 Sun 27 Nov 2011, 11:07 pm

Maybe stag but he is a very intelligent footballer, along the lines of john o'kelly, he will never be world class but still a handy squad player like billy holland

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Post by red_stag Sun 27 Nov 2011, 11:13 pm

Ah yea hes handy to have but I see him being 3rd choice #10 and about 5th choice fullback .
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Post by ME-109 Sun 27 Nov 2011, 11:15 pm

Dont disagree but he is a player who can do a job no matter where he is played

Also the backrow was very solid. I think we will see more of holland and butler this year

All about the squad. And a lot more positive than three weeks ago.. Life goes on in Munster..same as it always was, we might not have the underage, schools sides but we do have it where it counts

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Post by red_stag Sun 27 Nov 2011, 11:28 pm

Agree in full. Our depth is really excellent. No Flannery, Wallace, Earls or Jones but still beat Saints and win away in France.
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Post by funnyExiledScot Tue 29 Nov 2011, 2:50 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Poor young Jack Gilding was given a man-beasting by veteran Marcus Horan - don't think he managed parity even at a single scrum.


Sadly there's nothing behind Cross and Chunk at Edinburgh, so games in which they are rested will have to be played without a platform.

It's not as if Horan is a particularly devastating scrummager either.

I called the result but was disappointed with the scoreline. I thought there would be enough nous and experience in the Edinburgh line-up to compete more closely.

Looks like Munster are well stocked for the next generation.

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Post by asoreleftshoulder Tue 29 Nov 2011, 4:17 pm

DOD wrote:
When Earls comes back he will go to oc as he is munster and irelands next best. The criticism of him is that he cant link with others but no one seems to remember a young bod couldn't pass a ball for love nor money but developed over time.


I hope your wrong here,Earls can do a decent job at 13 but he's such a good winger I'd hate to see him moved again.

At the end of last season your back 3 of Earls,Howlett and Jones was electric,they were so dangerous on the counter attack.I'd love to see them reunited for a decent length of time they could do some real damage.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Tue 29 Nov 2011, 4:33 pm

I agree, not a big fan of Earls at 13. Ireland don't have a 12 to provide the required balance to have Earls at 13 in any case.

Personally I think he's such a good back three player I wouldn't move him.

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 29 Nov 2011, 4:39 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:
AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:Poor young Jack Gilding was given a man-beasting by veteran Marcus Horan - don't think he managed parity even at a single scrum.


Sadly there's nothing behind Cross and Chunk at Edinburgh, so games in which they are rested will have to be played without a platform.

It's not as if Horan is a particularly devastating scrummager either.

I called the result but was disappointed with the scoreline. I thought there would be enough nous and experience in the Edinburgh line-up to compete more closely.

Looks like Munster are well stocked for the next generation.
fES, watching back on the BBC Alba iPlayer, aside from the period when the two YCs were in force, there wasn't, arguably, a great deal between the two teams

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Post by pete (buachaill on eirne) Tue 29 Nov 2011, 4:49 pm

I agree with FES and Leftshouler, Earls at 13 would be a bad idea for Musnter and Ireland IMO

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