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Post by Driver Wed 30 Nov 2011, 11:09 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:50 pm

I'd like to see him in the Saxons myself, big miss that one

Shocking that Steve, can't believe 36 can't get in that side. Smith has been in great form tho

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:53 pm

36 has to leave Leicester to get his career going, as he's potentially a top class player but he's got to be 23 now? I think he'd do wonders at a club like Saints. Very clever player, bit like Greenwood but not as good a runner.

What England would give for Greenwood to be 25 again! He's the best English player I;ve seen play live - though would be a toss up between him and Richard Hill.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Dec 2011, 9:57 pm

Just finished his autobiography, good read. Sounds like a top fella

Great win that, Sarries were fantastic. Defence was unreal throughout

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:05 pm

16 tackles from Borthwick, 14 from Barritt........

Wait for it......

9 from Hodgson! (none missed!!)

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:20 pm

People make too much of Hodgson's defence - he's no worse than a lot of players, its just that everyone compared him to Wilko who tackled better than 99% of backrowers!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:25 pm

I have no issues with Hodgsons defence, he's as solid as most these days. Think it's Matt who thinks its a real weakness

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:47 pm

I've read Austin Healey's, Will Greenwoods' Matt Dawson's, Martin Johnson's and Jason Leonard's and they are all pretty good reads.

Got Clive Woodward's and Iam McGeechan's to get through.

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Post by Driver Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:50 pm

Dallaglio's is class - great book

Didn't enjoy Geechs as much as i thought i would
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:54 pm

Yeahh Dallagio's is good. Forgot about that one.

Actually I have read half of Geech's now i think about it but got stopped when came back to uni. Just up to the Lions bits.

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Post by Driver Fri 16 Dec 2011, 10:59 pm

I'v asked for Brian Moore's book for xmas so i'm hoping to get through that.

Splashdown by Chris Ashton is up there with My Grand Slam Year by Gavin Henson as awful ego inflaters
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 10:14 am

Saints Christmas Sale opens early...

PR Juan Pablo Orlandi (ARG) (3)
PR Sakaria Taulafo (Samoa) (1)
PR Nic Mayhew (E)
PR Ben Moon (E) (3)
PR Carl Hayman (NZ) (3)
PR Bob Baker (1 or 3)
FL Sione Kalamafoni (Tonga)
FL Liam Messam (NZ)
FL/N8 Luke Watson (South Africa)
N8 Simon Taylor (Scotland)
N8 Ryan Kankowski (South Africa)
SH Stuart Commins (SA/E)
FH Lionel Beauxis (French)
CE/FB Shane Geraghty (E)
CE Jean de Villiers (South Africa)
CE Willie Mason (Australia)
CE Casey Laulala (NZ)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)
WG Julian Savea (NZ)
WG/FB Rory Lamont (Scotland)

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 10:24 am

Predos:
London Irish - Racing Metro 92 - Irish by 12+
Leinster - Bath - Leinster by 8+
Leicester - Clermont Auvergne - Leicester by 7+ (Clermont too many changes)
Gloucester - Connacht - Gloucester by 10+

Northampton vs Castres - Saints by 10+
Toulouse vs Harlequins - Toulouse by 8+

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 12:40 pm

Looking forward to Tigers game, should be a cracker

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 12:44 pm

Reckon Tigers will win as Clermont havent taken their best side across the Channel - lot will depend on whether Youngs and Flood perform - a lot of pressure on Flood as Tuilagi/Smith combo doesnt work for me.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 12:57 pm

No it didn't click last week, Manu kept running the 13 channel and Flood had no go to ball. Looked transformed when 36 came on and Manu went back to 13.

I fancy Tigers by at least 7

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:03 pm

Trouble is that its hard for at 13 to play at 12, whilst its easier for a 12 to play at 13.

I dont get why they dont play Twelvetrees. Everytime I see the lad play he looks quality.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:06 pm

Totally agree, can't knock Manu for it. He's hardly had any game time there

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:28 pm

As I understand it is as strong as Clermont can go with the players available.

Hoping for a bit of niggle. Can see a red card coming. Saracencs Ospreys was on the edge.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:33 pm

I fancy Clermont to win btw.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:35 pm

Tigers scrum looks ominous....

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:39 pm

few shakey starts for Leicester.

Absolutely love Malzieu. Think he is absolutely top class. I'd have him and Clerc as French wings.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:46 pm

Floods kicking well so far

Tigers pack needs to do more and give youngs a platform

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:48 pm

Tuilagi is just class - think he's going to be world class!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:49 pm

That was better!

Great line from Tuilagi and gorgeous pass Flood. They need more up front though for def

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:50 pm

He could really kick on to be top draw, cracking player.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Dec 2011, 1:53 pm

Tuilagi's biggest test won't be getting to the top but staying there. People work players out and he needs to get around that obstace.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:00 pm

Waldroum playing really well so far, real scrappy game though

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:04 pm

Flood kicking percentage this year around 60% not good enough and will lose games.

Waldrom on fire and vosloo never has a bad game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:13 pm

Flood not kicking well at all, 2 tough kicks but he normally nails them

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:14 pm

We speal a lot about the Eng team but who do we reckon will be the French first choice in 6N?

My guess is

1. Unsure really. Depends on fitness.
2. Servat
3. Mas
4. Pierre
5. Pape
6. Dusatoir
7. Harinordiquy
8. Picamoles
9. Parra
10. Trinh-Duc
11. Clerc
12. Mermoz
13. Rougerie
14. Malzieu
15. Medard

Very handy side!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:16 pm

Barcella at 1, Fofana or Mermoz at 12. Loads of talent.

Great finish Clermont, Tigers really struggling now

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:19 pm

Bonnaire will start every time in the form of his life pIckles bench. Think Fofana may debut at 12

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:20 pm

Floods kicking percentage for the year is in the quade cooper nicky Robinson bracket.

Clermont good value for the lead

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:21 pm

I reckon Picamoles will be involved myself. Some serious players in the running. Reckon PSA will be a good coach as well!

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:22 pm

Time for picamoles to get the 8 shirt full time. Amazing last week. Bonnaire bench he covers across back row.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:22 pm

Picamoles in great form and a must start at 8 for me, I'd have Bonnaire on bench covering backrow

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:28 pm

Bonnaire was a star of the world cup so can't see them dropping him. Playing really well today as well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:42 pm

I'm not sure about star, he had a good WC though.

The thinking for me is Picamoles brings such a focus he must start at 8 and both Hari and Dusa are streets ahead of Bonnaire on the flanks.

Great work Youngs, Flood looking much better with the boot. Game on!

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:47 pm

Hamilton having a mare

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:49 pm

He's had a right funny season Hamilton. Normally one of the safest and consistent performers in the AP too, looked right off the boil

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 2:55 pm

Floods so annoying one minute he is controlling the game and the next he goes missing. The tigers pack need to give him more runners as his only option is manu at the moment. Haven't seen alesana Tuilagi come Looking for the ball once yet.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 3:01 pm

How did they balls that up!!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 3:07 pm

Gotta love Youngs when he attacks the fringes like today, such a threat

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 3:20 pm

Good game, Waldroum deserved motm. Best 8 in England by a fair distance for me.

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 3:32 pm

He is in some form

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 17 Dec 2011, 3:47 pm

What you guys make of:

6. Waldrom
7. Pocock
8. Joubert

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 3:54 pm

youngs is very good around the fringes, still looking for him to get back his form around the rest of his game, you can tell he's just shaking a bit of rust, he'll hit top form by 6Nations and that changes England a lot, as gives us such an edge in attack.

think we have to build the whole backline around youngs, tuilagi and foden - all three will be world class, ashton, sharples both great talents - just need a top class 10-12 combination. Flood showed his best and worst today - just wish he was more consistent as would be a great player then!

waldroum has always struck me as a player who is very good for his club, but could get a bit lost at international level. actually when you look at it there arent that many great no8s in the AP...I like Joubert but there arent any standouts really.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 17 Dec 2011, 4:06 pm

Think Waldroum is much more effective at 8 Luke.

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Post by Guest Sat 17 Dec 2011, 4:13 pm

Waldrom and Joubert are both out and out 8s for me.

Think Joubert is the better player and is a tremendous all
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 17 Dec 2011, 5:01 pm

didnt think Racing had any chance of beating Irish! Their kicking is a real threat though - wont even attempt a spelling of his name...

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