Cotto vs Alvarez?

by inman124 Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:10 am

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I think this fight could happen, light-middleweight unification. Cotto showed last night his boxing skills and i think he would cause Alvarez real problems nad beat him. Would be a massive step up in class for Saul, would Golden Boy risk him for a fight with Cotto?

by Imperial Ghosty Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:39 pm

prettyboykev wrote:Ghosty I don't get your point really mate we seem to be going round in circles.

Martinez isn't a champion at light middle.

All I'm saying is Martinez wasn't willing to give away a significant weight advantage on the night in a catchweight fight to a 46 year old man. Why should he expect Manny and Floyd not to use the weight excuse when he did it and he brings nothing to the table?

He gave away significant weight to Pavlik in his first fight at middleweight.

The main point is that Martinez, Pacquiao and Mayweather have all won titles at light middleweight so talk of fight between them is only natural whereas Martinez has yet to fight above middleweight. So expecting him to fight Hopkins is completely different to expecting Pacquiao or Mayweather to fight him at light middleweight, the weight isn't an issue its the fact he's better than anyone they've faced recently by a long long way.

by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:44 pm

Bob wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:Ghosty I don't get your point really mate we seem to be going round in circles.

Martinez isn't a champion at light middle.

All I'm saying is Martinez wasn't willing to give away a significant weight advantage on the night in a catchweight fight to a 46 year old man. Why should he expect Manny and Floyd not to use the weight excuse when he did it and he brings nothing to the table?

Ok, I'll simplify this for you::-

NOBODY PAYS TO SEE HOPKINS FIGHT, SO IT AINT A SUPERFIGHT.

Hopkins is still PPV Martinez has never been PPV so sorry mate your wrong! Laugh

by Bob Sun Dec 04, 2011 5:29 pm

prettyboykev wrote:
Bob wrote:
prettyboykev wrote:Ghosty I don't get your point really mate we seem to be going round in circles.

Martinez isn't a champion at light middle.

All I'm saying is Martinez wasn't willing to give away a significant weight advantage on the night in a catchweight fight to a 46 year old man. Why should he expect Manny and Floyd not to use the weight excuse when he did it and he brings nothing to the table?

Ok, I'll simplify this for you::-

NOBODY PAYS TO SEE HOPKINS FIGHT, SO IT AINT A SUPERFIGHT.

Hopkins is still PPV Martinez has never been PPV so sorry mate your wrong!

Hopkins V Dawson got 40,000 PPV buys. Superfights are generally in the million buys area. Martinez would make millions more fighting the guys above over Hopkins, and at 36 with time not on his side, I can't blame him.

by Guest Sun Dec 04, 2011 7:51 pm

88Chris05 wrote:Would like to see Cotto retire now personally, but if he does continue - which I think he will - the Alvarez fight seems the natural route to me, given that Cotto is still arguably the biggest PPV attraction in the sport outside of Mayweather and Pacquiao. Combine that with Alvarez's huge following and it makes for a serious spectacle.

Mind you, that would be a hard fight to make politically speaking. Golden Boy will be wanting to protect their prize asset, Arum probably knows that Cotto isn't the swashbuckling specimen he was back in 2007. As has been mentioned above, the chances are that we'll be left with second prize, which is Cotto versus Chavez Jr.

Both of those will sell big numbers with the Puerto Rican vs Mexican aspect adding spice, could be a changing of the guard situation too.

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