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Post by Driver Tue 03 Jan 2012, 3:56 pm

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 15 Jan 2012, 9:15 pm

Got the following available

HK Chris Whitehead (E)
PR Juan Pablo Orlandi (ARG) (3)
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PR Nic Mayhew (E)
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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 16 Jan 2012, 9:38 am

Cheers for doing the results SJE, will try to get everything updated on table tomorrow.
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Post by stnick88 Mon 16 Jan 2012, 12:39 pm

I might be wrong, but think the current seedings for HC are....

1 Gloucester
2 Leicester
3 Sale
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Post by Guest Mon 16 Jan 2012, 12:45 pm

Gloucester vs Toulouse at home if it stays this way. Tasty game on paper. I think Gloucester will beat them at home this Friday. Don't think Toulouse have looked great in this years HC

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 12:51 pm

Apart from away to Quins, they were mentally strong in that one.

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Post by Guest Mon 16 Jan 2012, 12:55 pm

Also depends on what team we put our. personally i would give our big names a rest and throw in some youngsters and dross like Dan Murphy

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 12:57 pm

Not a fan of Murphy then Matt lol...like to see May at 13

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Post by Guest Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:00 pm

Murphy is some unit but has been simply shocking for us. not surprising that he was never first choice at irish who hardly have a great scrummaging unit.

May at 13 is good to watch and against fritz would be interesting.

We are also keen to offload EFS in the summer apparently so indication that we are backing May as a 12.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:02 pm

Really rate May but not quite sure about him at 12(not seen him there I don't think).

Seems a bit of a waste of his gas

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Post by stnick88 Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:05 pm

murphy is poor.
wouldnt of even made the bench for us this season as would of been behind corbisiero, dermody and lahiff
to be fair we have some good loosehads, but only Ion as a decent tighthead as Faan is a lump.

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Post by Guest Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:06 pm

totally agree pooly. why waste the quickest player around at 12. i can understand they want his ability and passing there but for me he is not big enough yet either. yes he tackles well but why do you want him doing that.

Personally i can see trinder maybe moving to 12 and may 13. trinder is very strong and has a huge boot that could be utilised there

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:17 pm

Everything with May points to 13 tbh, great talent. Hasnt looked out of place at any level I've seen him. I'd have shot him straight in EPS and looked to tweak him/tease into Int rugby.

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Post by Driver Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:24 pm

I'd of started him against Italy on the wing then dropped him and told him to force his way back into the side. Happens at every level.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:27 pm

Be a great bench option, I'd be looking at Sharples to nail a place this 6N on the wing, wonder if he'll be threw straight in

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:41 pm

Throw a player in and then drop him?? That is exactly what a young kid needs after his international debut.

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Post by Driver Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:45 pm

It's a big test of character more than anything else Steve and Wales at Twickenham i think he'd be handy as a game changer from the bench.

I remeber the Billingham coach Chris Hyndman saying he made his Saints debut on the wing and was dropped by Wayne Smith the week after and told to train harder than he every had before to earn his spot in the team and it took him about 5 months to get another start.
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Post by Guest Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:47 pm

Did not do much for Chris hyndnam did it?

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Post by Driver Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:50 pm

He was in and out of Saints team for a while but he still lived up here and i think he's dad passed away and he's Mam wasn't in the best health so he took early retirement?

Sad news about Selorm Keudey.
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Post by Driver Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:53 pm

http://www.northamptonsaints.co.uk/news/4884.php
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Post by Driver Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:55 pm

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/features/former_saint_hyndman_fighting_his_way_back_1_933479


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 16 Jan 2012, 1:55 pm

Really think we should look at finding who the future stars of 2015 will be and getting them involved in the trainining sessions now with the main squad - May should be in the training squad with England, and if he surprises and impresses them then they could give him some game time from the bench.

There are a lot of good youngsters coming through that will be around for 2015 and could have a big role for us there - do the Saxons train with main England squad at all, if so May, Trinder, Launchbury, Gibson and Garvey are all there - can see each of those being around for the 2015 WC.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 16 Jan 2012, 2:34 pm

irish are in talks with george ford
all this talking to new fly halves worries me that bowden is gonna be off.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 16 Jan 2012, 3:08 pm

Hmmm I thought Ford would have been happy at Leicester.

Yeah it is absolutely awful news about Selorm Kuadey. Absolutely quality player was kept on for about 5 years even though he was injured for so long.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 16 Jan 2012, 3:24 pm

not guaranteed he is coming to us just early talks
sure he will talk to a few as well, same with gopperth.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 16 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

Would be a great signing for you if you could get him - I dont think Leicester have very good backs coaches, they are great with forwards, but they don't really help the young backs come through properly.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 5:32 pm

Yea I was just thinking that...

Manu, Youngs, 36, Harrison, Ford, Flood(to a certain point)

Leicester really are poor at bringing through young backs.

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Post by Driver Mon 16 Jan 2012, 5:57 pm

Have a few players available for cash

Efion Lewis Roberts £5m
Marty Holah £5m
Kameli Ratavou £5m
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 16 Jan 2012, 6:07 pm

Pooly - watch how they play the game though, I'm not saying they havent got youngsters, its just that the youngsters don't get the best coaching there as the wrong team is often picked and they don't play sensible rugby with tactics that play to the strengths of their backs.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 16 Jan 2012, 6:13 pm

I don't understand your point, Tigers play good winning rugby the majority of the time. Sure Welford has seen the most tries in the prem this season

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 9:07 am

Good article on Calum Clark in the Guardian -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/jan/15/northampton-calum-clark-england-scarlets

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 12:40 pm

hooray 22 fit players to pick from - varndell out for 12 weeks

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_7438503,00.html

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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 12:55 pm

i thought our injury list was bad, but yours is worse!


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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 12:58 pm

We are emergency loaning players from the championship left right and centre at the moment Nick - arent fielding 'a' or u20 teams as simply don't have the players.

Hopefully we will get a few more back soon, as seriously struggling to name a team right now. I think we also have Birkett, Haughton and a few others playing with injuries and wouldnt be playing if we werent in such a crisis.

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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 1:05 pm

We've got Joseph back now.
Tagicakibau and Bowden are a couple of weeks away
Sinclair, Hala'ufia, Danaher wont be back for a couple of months at least
Ansbro could be out for the season

Not ideal.

Cant wait to have Tagicakibau back, adds so much to our attack when he is fully fit.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 1:30 pm

Just having Losi on the pitch create4s space for our other backs, as teams are more wary of his attacking threat than that of any of our other players.
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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 2:10 pm

JJ will thrive on that.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:04 pm

What's JJ's best position?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:35 pm

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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 4:36 pm

outside centre
played wing last season but think that was just to bed him in to the AP

got good pace and very good at gassing people on the outside.
did it v Sale and v Worcester this season before he got injured.

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 17 Jan 2012, 8:21 pm

Guys, not sure if the runners have time but, any chance we could have the predicted seedings for the amlin so I know if I stand a chance of being a top seed please?
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 8:33 pm

Prop a BP win would stand you in good chance of a top place seeding atm - all depends on other results though, as I think 3 of us have 19 points and 3 of us have 20points - so all to play for mate!

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 8:39 pm

Should be 24 points and 25 points - good to see English clubs dominating in Europe...if only it was because of the English players though.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jan 2012, 8:43 pm

I'll get all tables up to date tomorrow morning guys.
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 17 Jan 2012, 8:46 pm

Pete - just to make it easier for you, my team are on 30 points angel

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Post by Driver Tue 17 Jan 2012, 10:02 pm

Some doubt over the future of Toulon

http://www.espnscrum.com/france-top-14-2011-12/rugby/story/157731.html
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Post by prop_lyd Tue 17 Jan 2012, 10:33 pm

Awesome cheers Chris!! Just so I know to aim for a 5 point win!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 18 Jan 2012, 1:45 pm

Euro pool tables are now up to date.

As it stands Heino seedings are...

1. Gloucester
2. Sale Sharks
3. Leicester Tigers
4. Saracens
5. Newcastle Falcons
6. London Irish
7. Toulouse
8. Munster

with Ulster, Edinburgh and Leinster dropping into the Amlin, where the current seedings are...

1. Worcester Warriors
2. Northampton Saints
3. Bath Rugby
4. Exeter Chiefs
5. London Wasps
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Post by prop_lyd Wed 18 Jan 2012, 4:28 pm

Ok cheers Pete Ok!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jan 2012, 7:17 pm

Can't believe Fitzy isn't in Ire 6 Nations squad:

http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/rugby/news/article/-/12650304/no-room-for-fitzgerald-in-irish-six-nations-squad/?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jan 2012, 7:20 pm

Roger Wilson signs for Ulster:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby/wilson-set-for-return-in-ulster-signing-coup-16105322.html?

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