Ireland v Wales score prediction?

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What does everyone think the score will be when Ireland host Wales at the Aviva in just over 3 weeks time?

Wales have won twice in a row against Ireland which was quite frankly a miracle and hasn't happened since 1574. Ireland will do anything not to lose 3 in a row.

Wales struggle with expectation and everyone talking about them retaining their world cup form is going to be a hindrance rather than a positive. The 2010 match in Croke Park was one of the worst Welsh performances in recent years and think we could be in for a repeat.

Ireland 35-14 Wales

My new flatmate is Spanish and he listens to some right Gash

Harry's Game (Clannad) sang entirely in Irish made the Top 5 in the English charts.

Clannad were also responsible for the theme of Robin Hood etc.

And talking about Ulster bands/women - what about Enya - has sold 75 million records and the No. 1 "new age' artist of the 2000's according to Billboard* Just 2nd to U2 as a musical exporter.

*Taken from wiki!

SecretFly wrote:Why! - Why do you do this to us, bigballbag!!!?

Stylistically, two quite different sides, but ability-wise - there is just so little in it that it's infuriating trying to divide them into scores.

Wales could be at the beginning of a few years of dominance over the Irish. They might have really worked us out to the extent that it doesn't really matter how Kidney and co reacts to New Zealand. I think if Wales win this convincingly then that's the case. There's just no answer to them in the cabinet for a year or two.

But ... if Ireland win raggedly, there is still hope that we might lift ourselves out of the muddle we seem to be in for the last few years. Ireland are slow starters, even when they are in good form - so a 'just win' mightn't be all so bad.

Ireland 31 - Wales 26

A 3-year old child could work us out. How do you think Gatland shafted Kidney with so much ease?

And Gatland is no genius either.

Sin é wrote:Harry's Game (Clannad) sang entirely in Irish made the Top 5 in the English charts.

Clannad were also responsible for the theme of Robin Hood etc.

And talking about Ulster bands/women - what about Enya - has sold 75 million records and the No. 1 "new age' artist of the 2000's according to Billboard* Just 2nd to U2 as a musical exporter.

*Taken from wiki!

Enya is music for suicide victims. Must be a lot of dead people.

Give me Daniel O' Donnell anyday. He Rocks. And he makes nice tae.

Ireland by 20. It will be a Silence of the Lambs.

Gibson wrote:
A 3-year old child could work us out.

I'm a good deal older than 3 and I'm still bamboozled.

But yeah, maybe the kindergarteners know the deal...maybe they're all laughing at us doubters and saying in the jibberish tongue they use: "Idiots. Wait until they catch the vertical half-cross swallow loop with symetrical spin. Then they'll know what was in Declan's heart. Then they'll know...Everything!"

Gibson wrote:Ireland by 20. It will be a Silence of the Lambs.

Gibson wrote:

SecretFly wrote:Why! - Why do you do this to us, bigballbag!!!?

Stylistically, two quite different sides, but ability-wise - there is just so little in it that it's infuriating trying to divide them into scores.

Wales could be at the beginning of a few years of dominance over the Irish. They might have really worked us out to the extent that it doesn't really matter how Kidney and co reacts to New Zealand. I think if Wales win this convincingly then that's the case. There's just no answer to them in the cabinet for a year or two.

But ... if Ireland win raggedly, there is still hope that we might lift ourselves out of the muddle we seem to be in for the last few years. Ireland are slow starters, even when they are in good form - so a 'just win' mightn't be all so bad.

Ireland 31 - Wales 26

A 3-year old child could work us out. How do you think Gatland shafted Kidney with so much ease?

And Gatland is no genius either.

Unfortunately, I have to entirely agree with Gibson. We have such a basic/outdated game plan. We will never reach our full potential if Kidney doesn't think outside the (munster orientated) box.

Sin é wrote:Harry's Game (Clannad) sang entirely in Irish made the Top 5 in the English charts.

Clannad were also responsible for the theme of Robin Hood etc.

And talking about Ulster bands/women - what about Enya - has sold 75 million records and the No. 1 "new age' artist of the 2000's according to Billboard* Just 2nd to U2 as a musical exporter.

*Taken from wiki!

I have a feeling that the girl from Clanard's sister was the one in Enya...

munkian wrote:

roddersm wrote:Think the Pogues got a mention above...then theres the dubliners, snow patrol, the cranberries, damien rice, bell x1, therapy?, Ash, Sinead O'Connor, Boyzone, Westlife, Daniel O'Donnell, cyprus hill.....

Cypress Hill- the Hispanic East Coast rap group What you smoking homes ? Do you mean House of Pain ?

....guess I'm not down with the kids these days....

I used to be with it, then they changed what IT was...

Going back about 30 posts, classical music out of Ireland: James Galway.

Luke Kelly.

That is all.

Rory Gallagher with Taste.

One of the best bands to ever come from Ireland, yet so unheard of compared to the likes of U2 etc - My Bloody Valentine. Inventors of the shoegaze genre, if you haven't heard them, please listen to their album Loveless which is one of the best albums to ever be created

Gibson wrote:Rory Gallagher with Taste.

And this, obviously

I think that John Field, one of Chopins contemporary's, or even influences, certainly an originators of the Piano Nocturne, was also Irish. He genuinely is a master classical composer.

Nice one Maesteg. Had a good read up on that.

I mentioned earlier that is it likely that the Beatles, a little known liverpool based pop band, were 3/4s Irish decent.

With the mention of Irish influenced hip/hop above made me think of the amount Americans of Irish decent famous in modern music.

Googling it I found there was quite a few. Here are a few of them.

Christina Aguilera
Jeff Buckley
Tim Buckley
Mariah Carey
Ken Casey
David Cassidy
Eva Cassidy
Kurt Cobain
Judy Collins
Harry Connick, Jr.
Alice Cooper (Vincent Furnier)
Bing Crosby
David Crosby
John Denver
Flea (Red Hot Chilli Peppers bass player)
John Fogerty
Jerry Garcia
Huey Lewis
Don McLean
Barry Manilow
Liza Minnelli
Jim Morrison (The Doors)
Pink (Alecia Moore)
Iggy Pop (James Newell)
Bruce Springsteen
Gwen Stefani

Gibson wrote:Nice one Maesteg. Had a good read up on that.

I listen to BBC Radio 2, 3 and 4 far more than radio 1... But I do like Radio 6 too was a big John Peel fan.

John Peel introduced me to most of my music as a youff. Loved im. Sadly missed. Legend.

Nobody's mentioned the Cranberries. So I will. The Cranberries.

Ned's Atomic Dustbins, your arguments are invalid.

Gibson wrote:John Peel introduced me to most of my music as a youff. Loved im. Sadly missed. Legend.

Spawned masses of alternative music fans throughout the world. I met him once at the BBC, he always seemed surprised how awestruck people he met were on his acquaintance.

He described himself as a music fetishist... I liked that.

Feckless Rogue wrote:Nobody's mentioned the Cranberries. So I will. The Cranberries.

Zombie is one pretty epic song

Hothouse Flowers, theyve got more musical talent in their little fingers..............could never understand why they didnt make it bigger, saw them at glasonbury last year and they were on fire!!

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Feckless Rogue wrote:Nobody's mentioned the Cranberries. So I will. The Cranberries.

Zombie is one pretty epic song

Have you heard the god awful cover of it by some generic arse of an R&B singer. My wife had to physically restrain me from nutting the tv to make it stop.

Ash...!

Not big here but huge in America. When in the states I often wonder what a song is that I hadnt heard on TV adverts or in movies and it is often Ash

Is it true there's a big Welsh language music scene that nobody outside Wales knows about? Weren't the Super Furry Animals originally a Welsh language band?

Sweet Jeysus, Rory Gallagher - BRUTE force and ignorance

Sweet Jeysus, Rory Gallagher - BRUTE force and ignorance

Ps the Manics and the Phonics are among my favourite bands ever. Muse and the Fratellis too, like a musical 4 nations here!

Look lads, lets all forget the spread in the game and get down de Pub in Dublin, drink pints, get rat-arsed, play some sounds and talk endlessly about music.

We'll leave the game on in the background.

Match? Ah sure we'll catch the result on twitter or something.

Here Gibbo, John Lennon was rubbish.
(pulls pin, lobs grenade and steps away gingerly)

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Feckless Rogue wrote:Nobody's mentioned the Cranberries. So I will. The Cranberries.

Zombie is one pretty epic song

I mentioned the cranberries... and Ash...has anyone mentioned Shane Ward?.....

roddersm wrote:has anyone mentioned Shane Ward?.....

You have...and that's enough mischief out of you for one day, Rodders!

Gibson wrote:John Peel introduced me to most of my music as a youff. Loved im. Sadly missed. Legend.

The fact that Peel did so much to promote Captain Beefheart is one reason (among many) that the man should be celebrated as a hero of his time

Mickado wrote:Match? Ah sure we'll catch the result on twitter or something.

Here Gibbo, John Lennon was rubbish.
(pulls pin, lobs grenade and steps away gingerly)

You make sure you go to confession Micko. Jeezuz, that's downright, musical - Blasphemy man.

Ebony and feicin Ivory... yeah roysh.

SecretFly wrote:

roddersm wrote:has anyone mentioned Shane Ward?.....

You have...and that's enough mischief out of you for one day, Rodders!

SafeAsMilk wrote:

Gibson wrote:John Peel introduced me to most of my music as a youff. Loved im. Sadly missed. Legend.

The fact that Peel did so much to promote Captain Beefheart is one reason (among many) that the man should be celebrated as a hero of his time

Amen to that Milk. Peel was a visionary. Copied by so many. Jools Holland being one.

Maesteg. "He had a musical fetish"

Old Grey Whistle Test and Whispering Bob Harris played their parts too.

Feck it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqRHr5pEIFU

To quote a quoter on Youtits.


Missing ingredients of today's music.....

Bucket full of speed
At least 3 days of not sleeping
A lot of alcohol
Total creativity
Freedom
Balls

etcetc...

TheDutchHippie 2 weeks ago 2

And John Peels favourite song was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtUw6lxcis

...another tick for the Irish

Old Grey Whistle Test. The memories. I remember often watching it in a household of young twentysomething hippies - cousins of mine (I was much younger!!!) But I always felt soooo cool, baby. And surprised myself that I actually dug some of the vibes they were wafting in between the weed and the cords.

BTW. Ireland by 25.

Gibbo, that's not true. I wrote a song while stoned last year. It's called "The John player blues".

It's garbage, but at least it's true!

The John Player Blues.

Love it.

Ran out of fags at 2 in the morning and turned it into musical pain yeah? You genius.

Wish I could do that. Play it out of my system. I just go frantic and try to find an emergency spliff I hid when I was last stoned.

After an hour or so, I remember I've smoked it during another emergency. Not good.


Must be great to have natural talent. And a memory.

Is this a Rugby fred, Fred?

Ireland by 18, now that Trimble is nailed on as Bowe's successor.

Ah Rav man, they disallowed Trimble's virtual try then? I had us by 25.

And counting.

Just for my bud Gatts.

Just for you Gibbo. Not virtual but real "class"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbuFsNeOq8A&feature=player_embedded#!

Ireland 10 - 22 Wales.

Warbs to make Ferris O'Brien Heaslip look like amateurs.

Morgan. Good call. Totally silly, but it shows individuality and blind ambition.

Who's yer favourite Welsh and Irish bands? We've since moved on to higher things.

I blame Maesteg.

I added a bit of the classical too, mate...!

There is another Irish Soul Singer on the tip of my tongue...! Cant remember the name..

Jackie DeShannon... Amazing singer and song/writer, Irish parents.

One of my favourites was "Put a little love in your heart".