Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
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Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Team Sheets and tactics due by COB Thur
Predictions open Fri. Results due Sun/Mon
Ospreys v Dragons
London Wasps v Exeter Chiefs
Light Rain Showers, 7 Degrees, 13mph Winds
London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry
16. Andy Titterell 17. Charlie Beech 18. James Slipper 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Rocky Elsom 21. James Honeyben 22. Steven Myler 23. Tom Williams
Tactics
High intensity and physical, forward orientated game.
Look to our forwards to carry hard and get us onto the front foot where we can bring our strike runners into the game.
Our big centers will suck in Exeter defenders and create space elsewhere for us to exploit.
Look to dominate the collision area and get over the gain line.
Jones to kick in behind Exeter wingers to keep them pinned back in their own half where we can pressurise them.
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – driver - RIP 606
16. Neil Clark 17.Brett Sturgess 18.Dave Wilson 19. Simon Shaw 20.Johnnie Beattie 21.Haydn Thomas 22.Ronan O'Gara 23.Horace Aguella
- Keep the ball in the tight and grind wasps down using the boots of Slade , Tindall and Pisi to ping Wasps in there half.
- Use our scrummaging front row to keep the scrum up and driving on when it's Wasps feed.
- Cowen to dictate the tempo and test the Wasps line with snipes , service and high hanging box kicks.
- Cowen and Slade will play what is in front of them and use what they have outside them with Tindall making the headway in the backs and Fitz, Arty and Balshaw running into the wide channels.
Saracens v Worcester Warriors
Light Rain Showers, 7 Degrees, 13mph Winds
Saracens
Manager – Ozzy3213
16. Scott Lawson 17. Max Lahiff 18. Phil Swainston 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Luke Narraway 21. Francois Hougaard 22. Nevin Spence 23. Patric Lambie
Tactics
Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.
In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. If the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.
In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.
At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.
We will look to really attack the scrum, both in attack and defence. We will not be looking to drop the scrum at all, and Thierry Dusautoir in his role as captain will be talking to the referee constantly to ensure that he is aware that we want to scrummage. We will look to be aggressive in this area throughout.
Worcester Warriors
Manager – prop_lyd
16. Richardt Strauss 17. George Porter 18. Chris Budgen 19. Danie Russouw 20. Ben McCalman 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Morne Steyn 23. Sam Vesty
Tactics
*We have picked a big team to look to counter them upfront.
*Robinson will pull the strings from 10 and look to pin them back.
*We have a pack full of jumpers who will put pressure on their lineout.
*Front row to look for scrum advantage.
*Backrow to be all over the place with Morgan making the hard yards.
*Quick ball at all times for McCabe to get on the front foot.
*Shane and Garvey to look for work and Paterson to look to put pressurising kicks out and take points when possible.
*Use bench as and when.
*Play attractive rugby but try to bring them down to our level.
*Defend blitz-banana with Kelleher looking to snipe on loose balls and also to run when gaps are there.
Bath Rugby v Northampton Saints
Light Rain Showers, 7 Degrees 11mph Winds
Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
16. Jon Golding 17. Kevin Mealamu 18. Davit Kubrashvilli 19. Louis Deacon 20. James Haskell 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Dominick Waldouck 23. Kurtley Beale
Tactics
Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris
Subs: 16. Mike Haywood 17. Matt Stevens 18. Thomas Domingo 19. Dan Lydiate 20. Bradley Davies 21. Joe Simpson 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Matt Hopper
Tactics:
* strong forward orientated game with a strong scrum and will look to attack the Bath scrum. We Willnusenthe line out as a platform to attack Bath with Albecete, Lawes, Wiliams and Parisse all options. Will look for quick off the top ball to release our backs.
* very strong defensive team, picked Lawes and Qera in backrow to knock Bath ball runners down before they get a head of steam.
* Strong at breakdown and will target this area in a similar vein to how Leinser/Munster do - hitting them at pace and clearing people out the way. Have Mike Phillips and Manu Tuilagi who can add to this.
* Look to dictate tempo of the game through the pack and be more physical than Bath - control ball, work through phases and then attack at pace with the backs - Giteau and fofana combination will be very good. All back three are on top form and Daly has been nailing some wonder tries of late! Can score from anywhere and will attack Bath at every opportunity.
* target attacks at two points Hodgson's channel with big ball carriers to get us order the gain line and then target Anthiny Allen who isn't a natural 13 and could be prone to defensive lapses with fast attacks.
* keep scoreboard ticking over and have Daly to take shots at goal from 45metres + out
Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks
Sunny Intervals, 6 Degrees, 14mph Winds
[quote="Sgt_Pooly"]Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly
16. Tom Lindsay 17. Owen Franks 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Ed Slater 20. Guy Mercer 21. Jonny Arr 22. Nick Evans 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper
Tactics
- Fast, intense, attacking rugby
- Use set piece as a platform to unlease backline
- Target breakdown and Pretorious to attack with turnover ball, Brussow/Hore/Brown to slow Sale attacks
- Big carries from Thorn/Brown/Faletau to draw in Sale defence and create gaps for JOC
- JOC to rotate as 1st reciever with Flood and give 2nd playmaking option
- Steyn to come into the line and target Sale 10/12 channel with physical threat
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
16. Imolek 17. Sharman 18. Kruger 19. Jones 20. Kvesic 21. Bezy 22. Goode 23. Earls
General Game Plan
On attack, we will look to control possession with our strong carrying game. We will look to our big carriers to get over the gain line and where possible offload to support runners breaking the defensive line and keeping our forward momentum going. If running the ball is not on we will look to the boots of Spencer, Cruden and Barkley to put us in the right areas.
On defence, we will use a blitz defence coming up at pace looking to isolate the ball carrier before he gets to the gain line stopping any momentum and allowing us to hit the breakdown hard. Spencer will act as a sweeper to cover any grubbers behind the line while our back three will sit deep ready to run back any loose kicks.
At the breakdown, if the ball looks available we will look to seriously commit numbers to clear the ruck allowing POM and Todd to come in and secure us turnover ball. At all other times we will commit 1 or 2 to the breakdown and look to counter ruck legally slowing down Falcons ball allowing our defensive line more time to set.
At scrum time we will look to hold the bind up and get the ball straight out to Palu at the back of the scrum. With 5 jumping options and a reliable thrower at hook we will look to attack from the lineout. We will look to mix things up bringing the ball down into the maul or playing the ball of the top and spreading it through the backs.
Harlequins v Leicester Tigers
Light Rain Showers, 8 Degrees, 12mph Winds
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
16. Chris Brooker 17. Matias Aguero 18. Ruadirhi Murphy 19. George Skivington 20. Jamie Gibson 21. Jano Vermaak 22. Rory Clegg 23. Gonazalo Canale
Tactics
Use experienced and powerful pack to secure set piece ball and then unleash backs. Young exciting half backs and centres to feed the experienced finishers outwide.
Quick tempo key to our game with forwards carrying hard and punching holes and getting us quick ball to send wide.
Forwards to disrupt on opposition ball and make the ball available to opposition slow. Aim to put in big hits around the breakdown where carriers will be static.
Very strong scrummaging front row is backed up by a big second row. Aim to put in big pressure hear. Fearns, Henry and Wallace all very competent at breakdown and will look to hurt opposition hear.
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
16. Gethin Jenkins 17. Lee Mears 18. Johnny Harris 19. Tom Denton 20. Jordan Crane 21. Chris Cusiter 22. Dave Walder 23. Casey Laulala
Tactics
- Game is built around our powerful setpiece, intelligent midfield and flying back three. We will use the scrum and lineout as weapons.
- Attack the lineout as much as we can using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and James. Croft to be our banker ball, but we will also use Joubert, Manoa and Pape.
- Call for scrums when we can if we are getting the advantage we expect to. Joubert to look to control from the base.
- Look to Joubert, Manoa, Pape, Everard, Sheridan, Moore and Croft to give us real go-forward with their carrying.
- Use Tuilagi/Manoa off the shoulder of the half back's crashing down the 10/12 channel.
- Everard is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Quins. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.
- Yachvili and James are given license to play the game as they see it. We do ask that they use our lineout ability to put pressure on Quins, so a kicking game will be employed, but if they see an opportunity to attack out wide - that is their call.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. All have good boots to rely on if it isn't on or they are isolated, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Early on Yachvili to kick all penalites within range, but we won't necessarily go for the 3 points as the game progresses. O'Driscoll to make the call dependant on the success of the lineout.
Scarlets v London Irish
Heavy Rain Showers, 8 Degrees, 16mph Winds
Scarlets
Manager – Nigel Davies
16 Emyr Phillips 17 Rhodri Jones 18 Rhys M. Thomas 19 Dominic Day 20 Richie Pugh 21 Rhodri Williams 22 Daniel Newton 23 Lee Rees
Tactics
London Irish
Manager – stnick88
16. Darren Fearn 17. James Buckland 18. Soane Tonga'uhia 19. Nick Kennedy 20. Kieren Roche 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Matthew Tait 23. Juan Martin Hernandez
We have picked a powerful team full of experienced internationals and hungry youth players to steam roll the Scarlets. They are missing a bag ful of first teamers including the spine of their team in Rees, Morgan, Shingler, Priestland, Jones.
We will look for domination upfront to allow our backs to run in the tries. We will look to turn over ball as much as possible and get over the gain line frequently to put Scarlets on the back foot.
Morgan will play what is infront of him and look for sniping runs and to get Basson, Yarde and Watson in space.
Morgan to kick all pens for goal and go for touch if out of range. Pienaar and Hernandez on in 2nd half to control proceedings and see the game out
Gloucester Rugby v Cardiff Blues
Light Rain Showers, 8 Degrees, 13mph Winds
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
16 Payne 17 George 18 Harden 19 Robson 20 Bonnaire 21 Genia 22 Mills 23 JSD
Glaws tactics
As usual high tempo forwards win the battle and create platform to attack for the backs. huge scrummaging effort and great clean set pieces. Look to use centres runnig hard up the middle to create space for backrow.
Bench to take game away to BP
Cardiff Blues
Manager – Justin Burnell
16 Marc Breeze 17 Jamie Corsi 18 Tom Davies 19 Matthew Screech 20 Ellis Jenkins 21 Lewis Jones 22 Lewis Williams 23 Owen Williams
Tactics
Predictions open Fri. Results due Sun/Mon
Ospreys v Dragons
London Wasps v Exeter Chiefs
Light Rain Showers, 7 Degrees, 13mph Winds
London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry
01. Perry Freshwater | 09. Martin Roberts |
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau | 10. Stephen Jones (k) |
03. CJ Van Der Linde | |
04. Steve Mafi | 11. Ugo Monye |
05. Richard Birkett | 12. James Downey |
06. Tom Johnson | 13. Matt Banahan |
07. Deon Stegmann | 14. Takudzwa Ngwenya |
08. Simon Taylor | 15. Chris Wyles |
16. Andy Titterell 17. Charlie Beech 18. James Slipper 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Rocky Elsom 21. James Honeyben 22. Steven Myler 23. Tom Williams
Tactics
High intensity and physical, forward orientated game.
Look to our forwards to carry hard and get us onto the front foot where we can bring our strike runners into the game.
Our big centers will suck in Exeter defenders and create space elsewhere for us to exploit.
Look to dominate the collision area and get over the gain line.
Jones to kick in behind Exeter wingers to keep them pinned back in their own half where we can pressurise them.
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – driver - RIP 606
01. Wyatt Crockett | 09. Jimmy Cowen |
02. Damian Valey | 10.Colin Slade |
03. Davit Zirkashvilli | |
04. Flip Van Der Merwe | 11. Luke Fitzgerald |
05. James Hudson | 12. Mike Tindall |
06. Ben Skirving | 13. George Pisi |
07. Lewis Moody | 14. Vasily Artemyev |
08. Nick Easter (c) | 15. Iain Balshaw |
16. Neil Clark 17.Brett Sturgess 18.Dave Wilson 19. Simon Shaw 20.Johnnie Beattie 21.Haydn Thomas 22.Ronan O'Gara 23.Horace Aguella
- Keep the ball in the tight and grind wasps down using the boots of Slade , Tindall and Pisi to ping Wasps in there half.
- Use our scrummaging front row to keep the scrum up and driving on when it's Wasps feed.
- Cowen to dictate the tempo and test the Wasps line with snipes , service and high hanging box kicks.
- Cowen and Slade will play what is in front of them and use what they have outside them with Tindall making the headway in the backs and Fitz, Arty and Balshaw running into the wide channels.
Saracens v Worcester Warriors
Light Rain Showers, 7 Degrees, 13mph Winds
Saracens
Manager – Ozzy3213
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Morgan Parra |
02. Gary Botha | 10. Francois Trinh-Duc |
03. Adam Jones | |
04. Dave Attwood | 11. James Short |
05. Rynhardt Elstadt | 12. Seilala Mapusua |
06. Alessandro Zanni | 13. Owen Farrell |
07. Thierry Dusautoir (c) | 14. Andrew Trimble |
08. Alex Gray | 15. Alex Goode |
16. Scott Lawson 17. Max Lahiff 18. Phil Swainston 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Luke Narraway 21. Francois Hougaard 22. Nevin Spence 23. Patric Lambie
Tactics
Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.
In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. If the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.
In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.
At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.
We will look to really attack the scrum, both in attack and defence. We will not be looking to drop the scrum at all, and Thierry Dusautoir in his role as captain will be talking to the referee constantly to ensure that he is aware that we want to scrummage. We will look to be aggressive in this area throughout.
Worcester Warriors
Manager – prop_lyd
01. David Flatman | 09. Byron Kelleher |
02. Michael Mayhew | 10. Nicky Robinson |
03. BJ Botha | |
04. Jim Hamilton | 11. Marcel Garvey |
05. Ollie Kohn | 12. Pat McCabe |
06. Kearnen Myall | 13. Jon Clarke |
07. Craig Newby (c) | 14. Shane Williams |
08. Ben Morgan | 15. Chris Paterson (k) |
16. Richardt Strauss 17. George Porter 18. Chris Budgen 19. Danie Russouw 20. Ben McCalman 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Morne Steyn 23. Sam Vesty
Tactics
*We have picked a big team to look to counter them upfront.
*Robinson will pull the strings from 10 and look to pin them back.
*We have a pack full of jumpers who will put pressure on their lineout.
*Front row to look for scrum advantage.
*Backrow to be all over the place with Morgan making the hard yards.
*Quick ball at all times for McCabe to get on the front foot.
*Shane and Garvey to look for work and Paterson to look to put pressurising kicks out and take points when possible.
*Use bench as and when.
*Play attractive rugby but try to bring them down to our level.
*Defend blitz-banana with Kelleher looking to snipe on loose balls and also to run when gaps are there.
Bath Rugby v Northampton Saints
Light Rain Showers, 7 Degrees 11mph Winds
Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
01. Cian Healy | 09.Fourie Du Preez |
02. Joe Ward | 10. Charlie Hodgson |
03. Euan Murray | |
04. Donnacha O’Callaghan | 11. George North |
05.Tim Swinson | 12. Maxime Mermoz |
06Sean O’Brien | 13. Anthony Allen |
07.Will Skinner | 14.Aurelien Rougerie |
08. JMF Lobbe | 15. Maxime Medard |
Tactics
- 10 wins in 11 games have left us with great momentum and feeling confident. With one of these wins over the opposition, away from home, we feel we have a huge psychological edge.
- We feel we can really get an advantage at scrum time with Healy and Murray looking to get a strong hit in. If we experience success in the scrum we will look to take that option
- Our backrow is one filled with carriers who we feel can really get over the gain line and make good yards. In Skinner we have a player who can cause real problems at the breakdown and we will look to slow Saints ball down by getting numbers down.
- Look to put pressure on Giteau who is not the same player he once was.
- FDP will be looking to put pressure on Saints with his box kicking abilities. He will look to put the ball in behind the bath wingers. Unless we experience real success we will only use this seldomly. JMF Lobbe will lead the chase.
- Our back five are deadly with the ball and we will really look to get them involved. North, Rougerie, Allen and Mermoz will all be used to make good yards with their runs. We will look to get Medard into one on one opportunities as we feel he has the beating of most players in the world.
- Our bench can really add to our team in the second half. We have strong scrummagers, good carriers and players capable of magic.
Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit_Chris
01.Matt Mullen | 09. Mike Phillips |
02.Dylan Hartley | 10.Matt Giteau (k) |
03.Carl Hayman | |
04. Ali Williams | 11.Siti Siviatu |
05. Patricio Albacete (c) | 12.Wesley Fofana |
06. Courtney Lawes | 13.Manu Tuilagi |
07.Akapusa Qera | 14.Elliot Daly |
08.Sergio Parisse | 15. Ben Foden |
Subs: 16. Mike Haywood 17. Matt Stevens 18. Thomas Domingo 19. Dan Lydiate 20. Bradley Davies 21. Joe Simpson 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Matt Hopper
Tactics:
* strong forward orientated game with a strong scrum and will look to attack the Bath scrum. We Willnusenthe line out as a platform to attack Bath with Albecete, Lawes, Wiliams and Parisse all options. Will look for quick off the top ball to release our backs.
* very strong defensive team, picked Lawes and Qera in backrow to knock Bath ball runners down before they get a head of steam.
* Strong at breakdown and will target this area in a similar vein to how Leinser/Munster do - hitting them at pace and clearing people out the way. Have Mike Phillips and Manu Tuilagi who can add to this.
* Look to dictate tempo of the game through the pack and be more physical than Bath - control ball, work through phases and then attack at pace with the backs - Giteau and fofana combination will be very good. All back three are on top form and Daly has been nailing some wonder tries of late! Can score from anywhere and will attack Bath at every opportunity.
* target attacks at two points Hodgson's channel with big ball carriers to get us order the gain line and then target Anthiny Allen who isn't a natural 13 and could be prone to defensive lapses with fast attacks.
* keep scoreboard ticking over and have Daly to take shots at goal from 45metres + out
Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks
Sunny Intervals, 6 Degrees, 14mph Winds
[quote="Sgt_Pooly"]Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly
01. Alex Waller | 09. Sarel Pretorious |
02. Andrew Hore | 10. Toby Flood |
03. Craig Mitchell | |
04. Brad Thorn(c) | 11. Miles Benjamin |
05. Geoff Parling | 12. James O’Connor |
06. Kelly Brown | 13. Ben Williams |
07. Heinrich Brussow | 14. Ben Smith |
08. Toby Faletau | 15. Fran Steyn |
16. Tom Lindsay 17. Owen Franks 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Ed Slater 20. Guy Mercer 21. Jonny Arr 22. Nick Evans 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper
Tactics
- Fast, intense, attacking rugby
- Use set piece as a platform to unlease backline
- Target breakdown and Pretorious to attack with turnover ball, Brussow/Hore/Brown to slow Sale attacks
- Big carries from Thorn/Brown/Faletau to draw in Sale defence and create gaps for JOC
- JOC to rotate as 1st reciever with Flood and give 2nd playmaking option
- Steyn to come into the line and target Sale 10/12 channel with physical threat
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
01. Nathan Catt | 09. Ben Spencer |
02. Guilleme Guirado | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. Neemia Tialata | |
04. Stephen Sykes | 11. Sam Smith |
05. Christian Day | 12. Olly Barkley |
06. Peter O'Mahony | 13. Yann David |
07. Matt Todd | 14. Lelia Masaga |
08. Wycliffe Palu | 15. Nick Abendanoon |
16. Imolek 17. Sharman 18. Kruger 19. Jones 20. Kvesic 21. Bezy 22. Goode 23. Earls
General Game Plan
On attack, we will look to control possession with our strong carrying game. We will look to our big carriers to get over the gain line and where possible offload to support runners breaking the defensive line and keeping our forward momentum going. If running the ball is not on we will look to the boots of Spencer, Cruden and Barkley to put us in the right areas.
On defence, we will use a blitz defence coming up at pace looking to isolate the ball carrier before he gets to the gain line stopping any momentum and allowing us to hit the breakdown hard. Spencer will act as a sweeper to cover any grubbers behind the line while our back three will sit deep ready to run back any loose kicks.
At the breakdown, if the ball looks available we will look to seriously commit numbers to clear the ruck allowing POM and Todd to come in and secure us turnover ball. At all other times we will commit 1 or 2 to the breakdown and look to counter ruck legally slowing down Falcons ball allowing our defensive line more time to set.
At scrum time we will look to hold the bind up and get the ball straight out to Palu at the back of the scrum. With 5 jumping options and a reliable thrower at hook we will look to attack from the lineout. We will look to mix things up bringing the ball down into the maul or playing the ball of the top and spreading it through the backs.
Harlequins v Leicester Tigers
Light Rain Showers, 8 Degrees, 12mph Winds
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
01. Ceri Jones | 09. Karl Dickson |
02. Fabio Ongaro | 10. Freddie Burns (k) |
03. Brian Mujati | |
04. Erik Lund | 11. Cedric Heymans |
05. Charlie Matthews | 12. George Lowe |
06. Carl Fearns | 13. Johann Sadie |
07. Luke Wallace | 14. Joe Rokocoko |
08. Chris Henry (c) | 15. Peter Hynes |
16. Chris Brooker 17. Matias Aguero 18. Ruadirhi Murphy 19. George Skivington 20. Jamie Gibson 21. Jano Vermaak 22. Rory Clegg 23. Gonazalo Canale
Tactics
Use experienced and powerful pack to secure set piece ball and then unleash backs. Young exciting half backs and centres to feed the experienced finishers outwide.
Quick tempo key to our game with forwards carrying hard and punching holes and getting us quick ball to send wide.
Forwards to disrupt on opposition ball and make the ball available to opposition slow. Aim to put in big hits around the breakdown where carriers will be static.
Very strong scrummaging front row is backed up by a big second row. Aim to put in big pressure hear. Fearns, Henry and Wallace all very competent at breakdown and will look to hurt opposition hear.
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
01. Andrew Sheridan | 09. Dimitri Yachvili (k) |
02. Stephen Moore | 10. Brock James |
03. Dan Cole | |
04. Samu Manoa | 11. Alesana Tuilagi |
05. Pascal Pape | 12. Yannick Jauzion |
06. Tom Croft | 13. Brian O'Driscoll (c) |
07. Matt Everard | 14. Vincent Clerc |
08. Ernst Joubert | 15. Rob Miller |
Tactics
- Game is built around our powerful setpiece, intelligent midfield and flying back three. We will use the scrum and lineout as weapons.
- Attack the lineout as much as we can using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and James. Croft to be our banker ball, but we will also use Joubert, Manoa and Pape.
- Call for scrums when we can if we are getting the advantage we expect to. Joubert to look to control from the base.
- Look to Joubert, Manoa, Pape, Everard, Sheridan, Moore and Croft to give us real go-forward with their carrying.
- Use Tuilagi/Manoa off the shoulder of the half back's crashing down the 10/12 channel.
- Everard is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Quins. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.
- Yachvili and James are given license to play the game as they see it. We do ask that they use our lineout ability to put pressure on Quins, so a kicking game will be employed, but if they see an opportunity to attack out wide - that is their call.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. All have good boots to rely on if it isn't on or they are isolated, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Early on Yachvili to kick all penalites within range, but we won't necessarily go for the 3 points as the game progresses. O'Driscoll to make the call dependant on the success of the lineout.
Scarlets v London Irish
Heavy Rain Showers, 8 Degrees, 16mph Winds
Scarlets
Manager – Nigel Davies
01. Phil John | 09. Gareth Davies |
02. Kirby Myhill | 10. Aled Thomas |
03. Simon Gardiner | |
04. Sione Timani | 11. Dale Ford |
05. Damian Welch | 12. Adam Warren |
06. Mathew Gilbert | 13. Sean Lamont |
07. Jonathan Edwards | 14. Liam Williams |
08. Kieran Murphy | 15. Dan Evans |
16 Emyr Phillips 17 Rhodri Jones 18 Rhys M. Thomas 19 Dominic Day 20 Richie Pugh 21 Rhodri Williams 22 Daniel Newton 23 Lee Rees
Tactics
London Irish
Manager – stnick88
01. Jean Baptiste Poux | 09. Julien Dupuy |
02. Rory Best | 10. Matthew Morgan |
03. WP Nel | |
04. Dean Mumm | 11. Marland Yarde |
05. Mouritz Botha | 12. Mathieu Bastereaud |
06. David Sisi | 13. Gonzalo Tiesi |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. Bjorn Basson |
08. Xavier Rush | 15. Anthony Watson |
16. Darren Fearn 17. James Buckland 18. Soane Tonga'uhia 19. Nick Kennedy 20. Kieren Roche 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Matthew Tait 23. Juan Martin Hernandez
We have picked a powerful team full of experienced internationals and hungry youth players to steam roll the Scarlets. They are missing a bag ful of first teamers including the spine of their team in Rees, Morgan, Shingler, Priestland, Jones.
We will look for domination upfront to allow our backs to run in the tries. We will look to turn over ball as much as possible and get over the gain line frequently to put Scarlets on the back foot.
Morgan will play what is infront of him and look for sniping runs and to get Basson, Yarde and Watson in space.
Morgan to kick all pens for goal and go for touch if out of range. Pienaar and Hernandez on in 2nd half to control proceedings and see the game out
Gloucester Rugby v Cardiff Blues
Light Rain Showers, 8 Degrees, 13mph Winds
Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt
01. Coonie Ousthuizen | 09. Lewis |
02. Adriaan Strauss | 10. Donald |
03. Julian White | |
04. James Hanks | 11. Vainokolo |
05. Palmer | 12. Hape |
06. Fasivalu | 13. Tuitopu |
07. Hazell | 14. May |
08. Johnson | 15. Muliana |
16 Payne 17 George 18 Harden 19 Robson 20 Bonnaire 21 Genia 22 Mills 23 JSD
Glaws tactics
As usual high tempo forwards win the battle and create platform to attack for the backs. huge scrummaging effort and great clean set pieces. Look to use centres runnig hard up the middle to create space for backrow.
Bench to take game away to BP
Cardiff Blues
Manager – Justin Burnell
01. Nathan Trevett | 09. Rhys Downes |
02. Ryan Tyrrell | 10. Rhys Patchell |
03. Ryan Harford | |
04. Cory Hill | 11. Harry Robinson |
05. James Down | 12. Cory Allen |
06. Josh Navidi | 13. Adam Thomas |
07. Rhys Shellard | 14. Richard Mustoe |
08. Luke Hamilton | 15. Dan Fish |
16 Marc Breeze 17 Jamie Corsi 18 Tom Davies 19 Matthew Screech 20 Ellis Jenkins 21 Lewis Jones 22 Lewis Williams 23 Owen Williams
Tactics
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
1. Coonie ousthuizen
2 Adriaan Strauss
3. Julian White
4 James Hanks
5 Tom Palmer
6 Fasivalu
7 Hazell
8 AJ
9 Lewis
10 Donald
11 Vainokolo
12 Hape
13 Tuitopu
14 May
15 Muliana
16 Payne
17 George
18 Harden
19 Robson
20 Bonnaire
21 Genia
22 Mills
23 JSD
Glaws tactics
As usual high tempo forwards win the battle and create platform to attack for the backs. huge scrummaging effort and great clean set pieces. Look to use centres runnig hard up the middle to create space for backrow.
Bench to take game away to BP
2 Adriaan Strauss
3. Julian White
4 James Hanks
5 Tom Palmer
6 Fasivalu
7 Hazell
8 AJ
9 Lewis
10 Donald
11 Vainokolo
12 Hape
13 Tuitopu
14 May
15 Muliana
16 Payne
17 George
18 Harden
19 Robson
20 Bonnaire
21 Genia
22 Mills
23 JSD
Glaws tactics
As usual high tempo forwards win the battle and create platform to attack for the backs. huge scrummaging effort and great clean set pieces. Look to use centres runnig hard up the middle to create space for backrow.
Bench to take game away to BP
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Armytryev 4 tries in 2 games since joining Exeter - Signing of the season i would say!
Anyway here's the team
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – driver - RIP 606
16. Neil Clark 17.Brett Sturgess 18.Dave Wilson 19. Simon Shaw 20.Johnnie Beattie 21.Haydn Thomas 22.Ronan O'Gara 23.Horace Aguella
- Keep the ball in the tight and grind wasps down using the boots of Slade , Tindall and Pisi to ping Wasps in there half.
- Use our scrummaging front row to keep the scrum up and driving on when it's Wasps feed.
- Cowen to dictate the tempo and test the Wasps line with snipes , service and high hanging box kicks.
- Cowen and Slade will play what is in front of them and use what they have outside them with Tindall making the headway in the backs and Fitz, Arty and Balshaw running into the wide channels.
Anyway here's the team
Exeter Chiefs
Manager – driver - RIP 606
01. Wyatt Crockett | 09. Jimmy Cowen |
02. Damian Valey | 10.Colin Slade |
03. Davit Zirkashvilli | |
04. Flip Van Der Merwe | 11. Luke Fitzgerald |
05. James Hudson | 12. Mike Tindall |
06. Ben Skirving | 13. George Pisi |
07. Lewis Moody | 14. Vasily Artemyev |
08. Nick Easter (c) | 15. Iain Balshaw |
16. Neil Clark 17.Brett Sturgess 18.Dave Wilson 19. Simon Shaw 20.Johnnie Beattie 21.Haydn Thomas 22.Ronan O'Gara 23.Horace Aguella
- Keep the ball in the tight and grind wasps down using the boots of Slade , Tindall and Pisi to ping Wasps in there half.
- Use our scrummaging front row to keep the scrum up and driving on when it's Wasps feed.
- Cowen to dictate the tempo and test the Wasps line with snipes , service and high hanging box kicks.
- Cowen and Slade will play what is in front of them and use what they have outside them with Tindall making the headway in the backs and Fitz, Arty and Balshaw running into the wide channels.
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Driver- Posts : 11038
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Do we still have different EQ rules in the Anglo Welsh cup?
Steven_Sharks- Posts : 7528
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Nope its just 10 with 5 starters
Driver- Posts : 11038
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Welsh opposition and conditions up
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
16. Chris Brooker 17. Matias Aguero 18. Ruadirhi Murphy 19. George Skivington 20. Jamie Gibson 21. Jano Vermaak 22. Rory Clegg 23. Gonazalo Canale
Tactics
Use experienced and powerful pack to secure set piece ball and then unleash backs. Young exciting half backs and centres to feed the experienced finishers outwide.
Quick tempo key to our game with forwards carrying hard and punching holes and getting us quick ball to send wide.
Forwards to disrupt on opposition ball and make the ball available to opposition slow. Aim to put in big hits around the breakdown where carriers will be static.
Very strong scrummaging front row is backed up by a big second row. Aim to put in big pressure hear. Fearns, Henry and Wallace all very competent at breakdown and will look to hurt opposition hear.
Manager – Steven_Sharks
01. Ceri Jones | 09. Karl Dickson |
02. Fabio Ongaro | 10. Freddie Burns (k) |
03. Brian Mujati | |
04. Erik Lund | 11. Cedric Heymans |
05. Charlie Matthews | 12. George Lowe |
06. Carl Fearns | 13. Johann Sadie |
07. Luke Wallace | 14. Joe Rokocoko |
08. Chris Henry (c) | 15. Peter Hynes |
16. Chris Brooker 17. Matias Aguero 18. Ruadirhi Murphy 19. George Skivington 20. Jamie Gibson 21. Jano Vermaak 22. Rory Clegg 23. Gonazalo Canale
Tactics
Use experienced and powerful pack to secure set piece ball and then unleash backs. Young exciting half backs and centres to feed the experienced finishers outwide.
Quick tempo key to our game with forwards carrying hard and punching holes and getting us quick ball to send wide.
Forwards to disrupt on opposition ball and make the ball available to opposition slow. Aim to put in big hits around the breakdown where carriers will be static.
Very strong scrummaging front row is backed up by a big second row. Aim to put in big pressure hear. Fearns, Henry and Wallace all very competent at breakdown and will look to hurt opposition hear.
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Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
16. Imolek 17. Sharman 18. Kruger 19. Jones 20. Kvesic 21. Bezy 22. Goode 23. Earls
General Game Plan
On attack, we will look to control possession with our strong carrying game. We will look to our big carriers to get over the gain line and where possible offload to support runners breaking the defensive line and keeping our forward momentum going. If running the ball is not on we will look to the boots of Spencer, Cruden and Barkley to put us in the right areas.
On defence, we will use a blitz defence coming up at pace looking to isolate the ball carrier before he gets to the gain line stopping any momentum and allowing us to hit the breakdown hard. Spencer will act as a sweeper to cover any grubbers behind the line while our back three will sit deep ready to run back any loose kicks.
At the breakdown, if the ball looks available we will look to seriously commit numbers to clear the ruck allowing POM and Todd to come in and secure us turnover ball. At all other times we will commit 1 or 2 to the breakdown and look to counter ruck legally slowing down Falcons ball allowing our defensive line more time to set.
At scrum time we will look to hold the bind up and get the ball straight out to Palu at the back of the scrum. With 5 jumping options and a reliable thrower at hook we will look to attack from the lineout. We will look to mix things up bringing the ball down into the maul or playing the ball of the top and spreading it through the backs.
Manager – SJE
01. Nathan Catt | 09. Ben Spencer |
02. Guilleme Guirado | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. Neemia Tialata | |
04. Stephen Sykes | 11. Sam Smith |
05. Christian Day | 12. Olly Barkley |
06. Peter O'Mahony | 13. Yann David |
07. Matt Todd | 14. Lelia Masaga |
08. Wycliffe Palu | 15. Nick Abendanoon |
16. Imolek 17. Sharman 18. Kruger 19. Jones 20. Kvesic 21. Bezy 22. Goode 23. Earls
General Game Plan
On attack, we will look to control possession with our strong carrying game. We will look to our big carriers to get over the gain line and where possible offload to support runners breaking the defensive line and keeping our forward momentum going. If running the ball is not on we will look to the boots of Spencer, Cruden and Barkley to put us in the right areas.
On defence, we will use a blitz defence coming up at pace looking to isolate the ball carrier before he gets to the gain line stopping any momentum and allowing us to hit the breakdown hard. Spencer will act as a sweeper to cover any grubbers behind the line while our back three will sit deep ready to run back any loose kicks.
At the breakdown, if the ball looks available we will look to seriously commit numbers to clear the ruck allowing POM and Todd to come in and secure us turnover ball. At all other times we will commit 1 or 2 to the breakdown and look to counter ruck legally slowing down Falcons ball allowing our defensive line more time to set.
At scrum time we will look to hold the bind up and get the ball straight out to Palu at the back of the scrum. With 5 jumping options and a reliable thrower at hook we will look to attack from the lineout. We will look to mix things up bringing the ball down into the maul or playing the ball of the top and spreading it through the backs.
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London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry
16. Andy Titterell 17. Charlie Beech 18. James Slipper 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Rocky Elsom 21. James Honeyben 22. Steven Myler 23. Tom Williams
Tactics
High intensity and physical, forward orientated game.
Look to our forwards to carry hard and get us onto the front foot where we can bring our strike runners into the game.
Our big centers will suck in Exeter defenders and create space elsewhere for us to exploit.
Look to dominate the collision area and get over the gain line.
Jones to kick in behind Exeter wingers to keep them pinned back in their own half where we can pressurise them.
Manager – ‘Arry
01. Perry Freshwater | 09. Martin Roberts |
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau | 10. Stephen Jones (k) |
03. CJ Van Der Linde | |
04. Steve Mafi | 11. Ugo Monye |
05. Richard Birkett | 12. James Downey |
06. Tom Johnson | 13. Matt Banahan |
07. Deon Stegmann | 14. Takudzwa Ngwenya |
08. Simon Taylor | 15. Chris Wyles |
16. Andy Titterell 17. Charlie Beech 18. James Slipper 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Rocky Elsom 21. James Honeyben 22. Steven Myler 23. Tom Williams
Tactics
High intensity and physical, forward orientated game.
Look to our forwards to carry hard and get us onto the front foot where we can bring our strike runners into the game.
Our big centers will suck in Exeter defenders and create space elsewhere for us to exploit.
Look to dominate the collision area and get over the gain line.
Jones to kick in behind Exeter wingers to keep them pinned back in their own half where we can pressurise them.
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Bath Rugby
Manager – inthefastlane
16. Jon Golding 17. Kevin Mealamu 18. Davit Kubrashvilli 19. Louis Deacon 20. James Haskell 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Dominick Waldouck 23. Kurtley Beale
Tactics
Manager – inthefastlane
01. Cian Healy | 09.Fourie Du Preez |
02. Joe Ward | 10. Charlie Hodgson |
03. Euan Murray | |
04. Donnacha O’Callaghan | 11. George North |
05.Tim Swinson | 12. Maxime Mermoz |
06Sean O’Brien | 13. Anthony Allen |
07.Will Skinner | 14.Aurelien Rougerie |
08. JMF Lobbe | 15. Maxime Medard |
Tactics
- 10 wins in 11 games have left us with great momentum and feeling confident. With one of these wins over the opposition, away from home, we feel we have a huge psychological edge.
- We feel we can really get an advantage at scrum time with Healy and Murray looking to get a strong hit in. If we experience success in the scrum we will look to take that option
- Our backrow is one filled with carriers who we feel can really get over the gain line and make good yards. In Skinner we have a player who can cause real problems at the breakdown and we will look to slow Saints ball down by getting numbers down.
- Look to put pressure on Giteau who is not the same player he once was.
- FDP will be looking to put pressure on Saints with his box kicking abilities. He will look to put the ball in behind the bath wingers. Unless we experience real success we will only use this seldomly. JMF Lobbe will lead the chase.
- Our back five are deadly with the ball and we will really look to get them involved. North, Rougerie, Allen and Mermoz will all be used to make good yards with their runs. We will look to get Medard into one on one opportunities as we feel he has the beating of most players in the world.
- Our bench can really add to our team in the second half. We have strong scrummagers, good carriers and players capable of magic.
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
shouldnt i be playing cardiff, and gloucester playing scarlets?
stnick88- Posts : 5345
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Guys as international players are away with their international teams etc, does this mean that they are now unavailable for selection?
Also last year or the year before last was there a rule where you had to have 'x' number of players under 23 or something in this cup or am i confused with another competition we ran?
Also last year or the year before last was there a rule where you had to have 'x' number of players under 23 or something in this cup or am i confused with another competition we ran?
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Available until Monday next week
Driver- Posts : 11038
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
ok cool - will probably be using this competition as a way to bring through some youngsters.
dammit_chris- Posts : 8685
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Nick,
ESPN have it down as Glaws-Cardiff and Irish-Scarlets and I made this fixture page when the games were first schedued
ESPN have it down as Glaws-Cardiff and Irish-Scarlets and I made this fixture page when the games were first schedued
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
yeh but i have so far played newcastle and quins who are in cardiffs group. scarlets are in my group with leicester and sale and i havent played those two so why would I now play scarlets? thought u played teams who are in a different group.
stnick88- Posts : 5345
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Havent a clue how they work the Anglo Welsh out mate I've just taken the fixtures as they were given
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Leicester Tigers have named their side to play Quins this week.
Tigers manager LukeLovesLuka continues to rotate his squad, as he names a completely different XV for the second week running.
Tigers are a side in some seriuos form, having won 10 of their last 11 games, and the side named to play Quins at the Stoop suggests they are intent on keeping that run going.
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
16. Gethin Jenkins 17. Lee Mears 18. Johnny Harris 19. Tom Denton 20. Jordan Crane 21. Chris Cusiter 22. Dave Walder 23. Casey Laulala
Tactics
- Game is built around our powerful setpiece, intelligent midfield and flying back three. We will use the scrum and lineout as weapons.
- Attack the lineout as much as we can using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and James. Croft to be our banker ball, but we will also use Joubert, Manoa and Pape.
- Call for scrums when we can if we are getting the advantage we expect to. Joubert to look to control from the base.
- Look to Joubert, Manoa, Pape, Everard, Sheridan, Moore and Croft to give us real go-forward with their carrying.
- Use Tuilagi/Manoa off the shoulder of the half back's crashing down the 10/12 channel.
- Everard is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Quins. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.
- Yachvili and James are given license to play the game as they see it. We do ask that they use our lineout ability to put pressure on Quins, so a kicking game will be employed, but if they see an opportunity to attack out wide - that is their call.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. All have good boots to rely on if it isn't on or they are isolated, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Early on Yachvili to kick all penalites within range, but we won't necessarily go for the 3 points as the game progresses. O'Driscoll to make the call dependant on the success of the lineout.
Tigers manager LukeLovesLuka continues to rotate his squad, as he names a completely different XV for the second week running.
Tigers are a side in some seriuos form, having won 10 of their last 11 games, and the side named to play Quins at the Stoop suggests they are intent on keeping that run going.
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
01. Andrew Sheridan | 09. Dimitri Yachvili (k) |
02. Stephen Moore | 10. Brock James |
03. Dan Cole | |
04. Samu Manoa | 11. Alesana Tuilagi |
05. Pascal Pape | 12. Yannick Jauzion |
06. Tom Croft | 13. Brian O'Driscoll (c) |
07. Matt Everard | 14. Vincent Clerc |
08. Ernst Joubert | 15. Rob Miller |
Tactics
- Game is built around our powerful setpiece, intelligent midfield and flying back three. We will use the scrum and lineout as weapons.
- Attack the lineout as much as we can using the tactical kicking of Yachvili and James. Croft to be our banker ball, but we will also use Joubert, Manoa and Pape.
- Call for scrums when we can if we are getting the advantage we expect to. Joubert to look to control from the base.
- Look to Joubert, Manoa, Pape, Everard, Sheridan, Moore and Croft to give us real go-forward with their carrying.
- Use Tuilagi/Manoa off the shoulder of the half back's crashing down the 10/12 channel.
- Everard is the man charged with reaching the breakdown first, securing first phase possession for us and pilfering the possession of Quins. We will always look to attack quickly off turnover ball.
- Yachvili and James are given license to play the game as they see it. We do ask that they use our lineout ability to put pressure on Quins, so a kicking game will be employed, but if they see an opportunity to attack out wide - that is their call.
- Our back three are encouraged to do what they do best - counter attacking and running the ball back. All have good boots to rely on if it isn't on or they are isolated, but the counter is what we ask them to look for.
- Early on Yachvili to kick all penalites within range, but we won't necessarily go for the 3 points as the game progresses. O'Driscoll to make the call dependant on the success of the lineout.
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Irish are definitely playing the Scarlets this week.
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
I know that, all I'm saying is that so far I have played Quins and Newcastle who are in the same group as Cardiff Blues. So I assumed I would be playing them this week. Scarlets are in my pool and so far I have played no teams in my pool.
Gloucester have played Sale and Leicester so far who are in my pool not theirs, and are now playing Scarlets who are in their group.
I thought I played all the teams from that pool and not any from my own pool.
I may be wrong.
Gloucester have played Sale and Leicester so far who are in my pool not theirs, and are now playing Scarlets who are in their group.
I thought I played all the teams from that pool and not any from my own pool.
I may be wrong.
stnick88- Posts : 5345
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
It's the pool tables on here that are wrong. Scarlets should be in pool 3 and the Blues in pool 2.
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
ah, that would make sense, cheers for that pete.
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Saracens make 13 changes to the matchday 23 that beat Treviso last week.
Saracens
Manager – Ozzy3213
16. Scott Lawson 17. Max Lahiff 18. Phil Swainston 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Luke Narraway 21. Francois Hougaard 22. Nevin Spence 23. Patric Lambie
Tactics
Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.
In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. If the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.
In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.
At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.
We will look to really attack the scrum, both in attack and defence. We will not be looking to drop the scrum at all, and Thierry Dusautoir in his role as captain will be talking to the referee constantly to ensure that he is aware that we want to scrummage. We will look to be aggressive in this area throughout.
Saracens
Manager – Ozzy3213
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Morgan Parra |
02. Gary Botha | 10. Francois Trinh-Duc |
03. Adam Jones | |
04. Dave Attwood | 11. James Short |
05. Rynhardt Elstadt | 12. Seilala Mapusua |
06. Alessandro Zanni | 13. Owen Farrell |
07. Thierry Dusautoir (c) | 14. Andrew Trimble |
08. Alex Gray | 15. Alex Goode |
16. Scott Lawson 17. Max Lahiff 18. Phil Swainston 19. Graham Kitchener 20. Luke Narraway 21. Francois Hougaard 22. Nevin Spence 23. Patric Lambie
Tactics
Our generic gameplan revolves around a high intensity attacking and defensive game.
In attack our primary gameplan is always to control possession and run the ball, utilising big carriers attacking gaps in the line, and looking to offload to support runners to continue getting over the gainline and keep the ball alive. If the offload is not on, we will take the contact and look to recycle quickly at the breakdown. If running the ball is not on we will uitilise the kicking game of one of our backs to take us into the right area of the pitch.
In defence we will look to blitz, with our scrum half sweeping behind the defensive line. Key for us is line speed, getting up to make the tackle before the ball carrier hits the gainline, and confidence and trust in the man next to you in the defensive line, meaning we will not jump out or get pulled to far away from the next defender leaving gaps that can be exploited.
At the breakdown, we will not overcommit players. If the ball is not there to be won, then we will commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow it down whilst maintaining a strong defensive line across the pitch. If the ball looks like it is there to be won, we will look to get more numbers there quickly, with the first 1 or 2 players immediately rucking past the ball to clear the opposition players who are trying to get hands on it, and the next man in will then look to get it out quickly for us to counter attack on turnover ball.
We will look to really attack the scrum, both in attack and defence. We will not be looking to drop the scrum at all, and Thierry Dusautoir in his role as captain will be talking to the referee constantly to ensure that he is aware that we want to scrummage. We will look to be aggressive in this area throughout.
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Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly
16. Tom Lindsay 17. Owen Franks 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Ed Slater 20. Guy Mercer 21. Jonny Arr 22. Nick Evans 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper
Tactics
- Fast, intense, attacking rugby
- Use set piece as a platform to unlease backline
- Target breakdown and Pretorious to attack with turnover ball, Brussow/Hore/Brown to slow Sale attacks
- Big carries from Thorn/Brown/Faletau to draw in Sale defence and create gaps for JOC
- JOC to rotate as 1st reciever with Flood and give 2nd playmaking option
- Steyn to come into the line and target Sale 10/12 channel with physical threat
Manager – Sgt Pooly
01. Alex Waller | 09. Sarel Pretorious |
02. Andrew Hore | 10. Toby Flood |
03. Craig Mitchell | |
04. Brad Thorn(c) | 11. Miles Benjamin |
05. Geoff Parling | 12. James O’Connor |
06. Kelly Brown | 13. Ben Williams |
07. Heinrich Brussow | 14. Ben Smith |
08. Toby Faletau | 15. Fran Steyn |
16. Tom Lindsay 17. Owen Franks 18. Boris Stankovich 19. Ed Slater 20. Guy Mercer 21. Jonny Arr 22. Nick Evans 23. Adam Ashley-Cooper
Tactics
- Fast, intense, attacking rugby
- Use set piece as a platform to unlease backline
- Target breakdown and Pretorious to attack with turnover ball, Brussow/Hore/Brown to slow Sale attacks
- Big carries from Thorn/Brown/Faletau to draw in Sale defence and create gaps for JOC
- JOC to rotate as 1st reciever with Flood and give 2nd playmaking option
- Steyn to come into the line and target Sale 10/12 channel with physical threat
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Northampton Saints Team
Manager Dammit Chris
Subs: 16. Mike Haywood 17. Matt Stevens 18. Thomas Domingo 19. Dan Lydiate 20. Bradley Davies 21. Joe Simpson 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Matt Hopper
Tactics:
* strong forward orientated game with a strong scrum and will look to attack the Bath scrum. We Willnusenthe line out as a platform to attack Bath with Albecete, Lawes, Wiliams and Parisse all options. Will look for quick off the top ball to release our backs.
* very strong defensive team, picked Lawes and Qera in backrow to knock Bath ball runners down before they get a head of steam.
* Strong at breakdown and will target this area in a similar vein to how Leinser/Munster do - hitting them at pace and clearing people out the way. Have Mike Phillips and Manu Tuilagi who can add to this.
* Look to dictate tempo of the game through the pack and be more physical than Bath - control ball, work through phases and then attack at pace with the backs - Giteau and fofana combination will be very good. All back three are on top form and Daly has been nailing some wonder tries of late! Can score from anywhere and will attack Bath at every opportunity.
* target attacks at two points Hodgson's channel with big ball carriers to get us order the gain line and then target Anthiny Allen who isn't a natural 13 and could be prone to defensive lapses with fast attacks.
* keep scoreboard ticking over and have Daly to take shots at goal from 45metres + out
Manager Dammit Chris
01.Matt Mullen | 09. Mike Phillips |
02.Dylan Hartley | 10.Matt Giteau (k) |
03.Carl Hayman | |
04. Ali Williams | 11.Siti Siviatu |
05. Patricio Albacete (c) | 12.Wesley Fofana |
06. Courtney Lawes | 13.Manu Tuilagi |
07.Akapusa Qera | 14.Elliot Daly |
08.Sergio Parisse | 15. Ben Foden |
Subs: 16. Mike Haywood 17. Matt Stevens 18. Thomas Domingo 19. Dan Lydiate 20. Bradley Davies 21. Joe Simpson 22. Danny Cipriani 23. Matt Hopper
Tactics:
* strong forward orientated game with a strong scrum and will look to attack the Bath scrum. We Willnusenthe line out as a platform to attack Bath with Albecete, Lawes, Wiliams and Parisse all options. Will look for quick off the top ball to release our backs.
* very strong defensive team, picked Lawes and Qera in backrow to knock Bath ball runners down before they get a head of steam.
* Strong at breakdown and will target this area in a similar vein to how Leinser/Munster do - hitting them at pace and clearing people out the way. Have Mike Phillips and Manu Tuilagi who can add to this.
* Look to dictate tempo of the game through the pack and be more physical than Bath - control ball, work through phases and then attack at pace with the backs - Giteau and fofana combination will be very good. All back three are on top form and Daly has been nailing some wonder tries of late! Can score from anywhere and will attack Bath at every opportunity.
* target attacks at two points Hodgson's channel with big ball carriers to get us order the gain line and then target Anthiny Allen who isn't a natural 13 and could be prone to defensive lapses with fast attacks.
* keep scoreboard ticking over and have Daly to take shots at goal from 45metres + out
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dammit_chris- Posts : 8685
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
London Irish
Manager – stnick88
16. Darren Fearn 17. James Buckland 18. Soane Tonga'uhia 19. Nick Kennedy 20. Kieren Roche 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Matthew Tait 23. Juan Martin Hernandez
We have picked a powerful team full of experienced internationals and hungry youth players to steam roll the Scarlets. They are missing a bag ful of first teamers including the spine of their team in Rees, Morgan, Shingler, Priestland, Jones.
We will look for domination upfront to allow our backs to run in the tries. We will look to turn over ball as much as possible and get over the gain line frequently to put Scarlets on the back foot.
Morgan will play what is infront of him and look for sniping runs and to get Basson, Yarde and Watson in space.
Morgan to kick all pens for goal and go for touch if out of range. Pienaar and Hernandez on in 2nd half to control proceedings and see the game out
Manager – stnick88
01. Jean Baptiste Poux | 09. Julien Dupuy |
02. Rory Best | 10. Matthew Morgan |
03. WP Nel | |
04. Dean Mumm | 11. Marland Yarde |
05. Mouritz Botha | 12. Mathieu Bastereaud |
06. David Sisi | 13. Gonzalo Tiesi |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. Bjorn Basson |
08. Xavier Rush | 15. Anthony Watson |
16. Darren Fearn 17. James Buckland 18. Soane Tonga'uhia 19. Nick Kennedy 20. Kieren Roche 21. Ruan Pienaar 22. Matthew Tait 23. Juan Martin Hernandez
We have picked a powerful team full of experienced internationals and hungry youth players to steam roll the Scarlets. They are missing a bag ful of first teamers including the spine of their team in Rees, Morgan, Shingler, Priestland, Jones.
We will look for domination upfront to allow our backs to run in the tries. We will look to turn over ball as much as possible and get over the gain line frequently to put Scarlets on the back foot.
Morgan will play what is infront of him and look for sniping runs and to get Basson, Yarde and Watson in space.
Morgan to kick all pens for goal and go for touch if out of range. Pienaar and Hernandez on in 2nd half to control proceedings and see the game out
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stnick88- Posts : 5345
Join date : 2011-05-10
Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
01. David Flatman | 09. Byron Kelleher |
02. Michael Mayhew | 10. Nicky Robinson |
03. BJ Botha | |
04. Jim Hamilton | 11. Marcel Garvey |
05. Ollie Kohn | 12. Pat McCabe |
06. Kearnen Myall | 13. Jon Clarke |
07. Craig Newby (c) | 14. Shane Williams |
08. Ben Morgan | 15. Chris Paterson (k) |
16. Richardt Strauss 17. George Porter 18. Chris Budgen 19. Danie Russouw 20. Ben McCalman 21. Dwayne Peel 22. Morne Steyn 23. Sam Vesty
Tactics
*We have picked a big team to look to counter them upfront.
*Robinson will pull the strings from 10 and look to pin them back.
*We have a pack full of jumpers who will put pressure on their lineout.
*Front row to look for scrum advantage.
*Backrow to be all over the place with Morgan making the hard yards.
*Quick ball at all times for McCabe to get on the front foot.
*Shane and Garvey to look for work and Paterson to look to put pressurising kicks out and take points when possible.
*Use bench as and when.
*Play attractive rugby but try to bring them down to our level.
*Defend blitz-banana with Kelleher looking to snipe on loose balls and also to run when gaps are there.
prop_lyd- Posts : 10387
Join date : 2011-01-28
Age : 36
Location : Rogerstone, Wales
Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Will do some basic tactics first thing tomorrow morning guys - got meetings starting now and then a swanky awards do in the City so don't expect to be on at all today.
dammit_chris- Posts : 8685
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Think I may struggle to predict until sat eve/sunday sorry guys
prop_lyd- Posts : 10387
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Age : 36
Location : Rogerstone, Wales
Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Predictions open
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
Join date : 2011-05-10
Age : 36
Location : Limerick
Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
London Wasps 15 - 17 Exeter Chiefs
Packs about even. Scrum will be a good contest with some powerful and experienced scrummagers. More creation in the Exeter backs and I don't think the Wasps crash ball will be particularly successful against to solid Exeter centres. Ngwenya the danger man for Wasps and a very astute signing.
Saracens 24 - 20 Worcester
Marginal scrum advantage to Saracens with Jones getting joy out of Flatman. I think Myall will take some ball off Saracens at the lineout and the 2nd row's will have a titanic clash with experience v youth. Dusatoir to have a some joy in the back row. Backs are fairly even across the board.
Bath 26 - 27 Northampton
Scrum to Saints just about and they have the better lineout as well. Lawes isn't a 6 and will count against Saints with a strong Bath back row. Packs just about go to Saints overall. Not much give in the backs at all with some world class players on show. This is a very tough game to call.
Newcastle 21 - 19 Sale
Scrum goes to Sale I think with looseheads even but Tialata stronger than Mitchell. Locks are also even as they are tough to separate. Back rows are even with the Sale back row is perfectly balanced. Half backs just to Newcastle but not much between them. Good game.
Scarlets 6 - 26 London Irish
Bit of a thrashing here. Scarlets missing a lot of good rugby players and it costs them. Good Irish side with some good young players involved.
Gloucester 32 - 3 Cardiff Blues
Same story. Blues severely weakened and its cost them big time.
Packs about even. Scrum will be a good contest with some powerful and experienced scrummagers. More creation in the Exeter backs and I don't think the Wasps crash ball will be particularly successful against to solid Exeter centres. Ngwenya the danger man for Wasps and a very astute signing.
Saracens 24 - 20 Worcester
Marginal scrum advantage to Saracens with Jones getting joy out of Flatman. I think Myall will take some ball off Saracens at the lineout and the 2nd row's will have a titanic clash with experience v youth. Dusatoir to have a some joy in the back row. Backs are fairly even across the board.
Bath 26 - 27 Northampton
Scrum to Saints just about and they have the better lineout as well. Lawes isn't a 6 and will count against Saints with a strong Bath back row. Packs just about go to Saints overall. Not much give in the backs at all with some world class players on show. This is a very tough game to call.
Newcastle 21 - 19 Sale
Scrum goes to Sale I think with looseheads even but Tialata stronger than Mitchell. Locks are also even as they are tough to separate. Back rows are even with the Sale back row is perfectly balanced. Half backs just to Newcastle but not much between them. Good game.
Scarlets 6 - 26 London Irish
Bit of a thrashing here. Scarlets missing a lot of good rugby players and it costs them. Good Irish side with some good young players involved.
Gloucester 32 - 3 Cardiff Blues
Same story. Blues severely weakened and its cost them big time.
Steven_Sharks- Posts : 7528
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
i dont think i could lost my game if i put the backs in the forwards and vice versa. worst cardiff side i have ever seen
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
I don't recognise most players and I know more about the Blues than I do most other Pro12 sides.
Steven_Sharks- Posts : 7528
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Location : Chester/Manchester
Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Saracens 30 Worcester 23
Bath 20 Northamton 14
Newcastle 23 Sale Sharks 20
Quins 15 Leicester 16
Scarlets 20 London Irish 22
Gloucester 70 Cardiff Blues 6
Bath 20 Northamton 14
Newcastle 23 Sale Sharks 20
Quins 15 Leicester 16
Scarlets 20 London Irish 22
Gloucester 70 Cardiff Blues 6
Driver- Posts : 11038
Join date : 2011-04-20
Age : 33
Location : Hartlepool
Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
London Wasps 15-20 Exeter Chiefs
Good even scrum battle but theres a bit more to the Chiefs side in the back 5 of the pack and they should get on top in the forwards and with some good form and a bit nore spark in the backs should win this one.
Saracens 23-18 Worcester Warriors
Sarries with an edge throughout the pack should see more of the ball here. Backlines are tight with Worcester stronger in midfield but Sarries in the back 3. Sarries halfbacks will do more with the ball they get though and should take this one.
Bath Rugby 28-21 Northampton Saints
Fairly even pack battle here. Bath with the stronger halfbacks and a very dangerous back 3. Saints midfield will see a lot of ball but Bath at home with th stronger halfbacks should see this one through.
Harlequins 14-16 Leicester Tigers
Very strong Tigers outfit on show should get an edge at scrum time and at the breakdown. Youth v Experience somewhat in the backs but Tigers should take this one with the pack on show and Yach pulling the strings
Scarlets 9-26 London Irish
Way too much on show from Irish here in key positions and they should see a comfortable day in Wales
Gloucester Rugby 34-12 Cardiff Blues
Same as Irish game.
Good even scrum battle but theres a bit more to the Chiefs side in the back 5 of the pack and they should get on top in the forwards and with some good form and a bit nore spark in the backs should win this one.
Saracens 23-18 Worcester Warriors
Sarries with an edge throughout the pack should see more of the ball here. Backlines are tight with Worcester stronger in midfield but Sarries in the back 3. Sarries halfbacks will do more with the ball they get though and should take this one.
Bath Rugby 28-21 Northampton Saints
Fairly even pack battle here. Bath with the stronger halfbacks and a very dangerous back 3. Saints midfield will see a lot of ball but Bath at home with th stronger halfbacks should see this one through.
Harlequins 14-16 Leicester Tigers
Very strong Tigers outfit on show should get an edge at scrum time and at the breakdown. Youth v Experience somewhat in the backs but Tigers should take this one with the pack on show and Yach pulling the strings
Scarlets 9-26 London Irish
Way too much on show from Irish here in key positions and they should see a comfortable day in Wales
Gloucester Rugby 34-12 Cardiff Blues
Same as Irish game.
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Wasps 22-24 Exeter
Good game this one and some good match ups. Think Exeter have a little more physicallity in the pack and will give their halfbacks some good clean ball. Tight one but Exeter sneak through.
Saracens 25-21 Worcester
I think Sarries just have the edge in the pack and that will give them good front ball to attack with. Some form issues in both sides but Sarries are strong at home and come away with the win.
Bath 26-23 Northampton
Really tight game, scrum battle edges to Bath with Hayman's lack of form and lacking a bit of grunt in the engine room. Very strong lineout options for Saints though and they'll have joy here. I love Saints midfield but Bath's run them close and have the better halfbacks/back 3/bench on show to sneak it.
Harlequins 15-22 Leicester Tigers
Tigers front 5 are a class above and have some serious power to push Quins around. Close backrows and some real quality on show. Tigers backs a level up, not sure of Lowe at 12 and up against Yannick will struggle. Luke taking this a lot more seriously than Steve I think and they'll contol this.
Scarlets 12-28 Irish
Little early for Morgan to be thrown in but he'll get an armchair ride throughout.
Gloucester 55-6 Blues
i can't see anything but a total floor wiping here.
Good game this one and some good match ups. Think Exeter have a little more physicallity in the pack and will give their halfbacks some good clean ball. Tight one but Exeter sneak through.
Saracens 25-21 Worcester
I think Sarries just have the edge in the pack and that will give them good front ball to attack with. Some form issues in both sides but Sarries are strong at home and come away with the win.
Bath 26-23 Northampton
Really tight game, scrum battle edges to Bath with Hayman's lack of form and lacking a bit of grunt in the engine room. Very strong lineout options for Saints though and they'll have joy here. I love Saints midfield but Bath's run them close and have the better halfbacks/back 3/bench on show to sneak it.
Harlequins 15-22 Leicester Tigers
Tigers front 5 are a class above and have some serious power to push Quins around. Close backrows and some real quality on show. Tigers backs a level up, not sure of Lowe at 12 and up against Yannick will struggle. Luke taking this a lot more seriously than Steve I think and they'll contol this.
Scarlets 12-28 Irish
Little early for Morgan to be thrown in but he'll get an armchair ride throughout.
Gloucester 55-6 Blues
i can't see anything but a total floor wiping here.
Sgt_Pooly- Posts : 36294
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Wasps v Exeter
- Close game, tight upfront. think the chiefs half backs is a good combo and could edge it for them. pisi and balshaw on good form in the back line.
20-22
Saracens v Worcester
- Sarries have mixed it up well, with youth and experience and class. Think they can get the upper hand upfront and allow Mapusua and Farrell front foot ball to thrive off.
25-21
Bath v Saints
- Both teams going in strong here. Class throughout. Cannot separate sorry.
28-28
Falcons v Sale
- Another top game here in the LV, tough to separate but at home think Falcons pack sneak it with a great backrow. Bit more class in falcons back line wins them the game.
25-22
Quins v Tigers
- Tigers have put out the stronger outfit and have more spark in their side. Quins youngsters will be looking to impress though and at home it will be tight.
15-17
Gloucester 69-3 Cardiff
- yep.
- Close game, tight upfront. think the chiefs half backs is a good combo and could edge it for them. pisi and balshaw on good form in the back line.
20-22
Saracens v Worcester
- Sarries have mixed it up well, with youth and experience and class. Think they can get the upper hand upfront and allow Mapusua and Farrell front foot ball to thrive off.
25-21
Bath v Saints
- Both teams going in strong here. Class throughout. Cannot separate sorry.
28-28
Falcons v Sale
- Another top game here in the LV, tough to separate but at home think Falcons pack sneak it with a great backrow. Bit more class in falcons back line wins them the game.
25-22
Quins v Tigers
- Tigers have put out the stronger outfit and have more spark in their side. Quins youngsters will be looking to impress though and at home it will be tight.
15-17
Gloucester 69-3 Cardiff
- yep.
stnick88- Posts : 5345
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Wasps 19 - 15 Exeter
Two teams setting their stalls up very similar, think Stephen Jones could well be the deciding factor here as both sets of packs very similar, would give the slight edge in dynamism to Wasps - but not sure how either team will get through the oppositions defence, espc the midfield. So its down to the boot and game management - exp of Jones edges it.
Saracens 27 - 23 Worcester
Very good sides put out by both, think Sarries edge it in terms of more threat in the backline. Cant quite see where that spark of magic will come from for Worcester to get tries, but very good pack will cause Sarries some problems.
Falcons 27 - 24 Sale
Tough to call, but the match day squad overall edges to Pooly and he's got some great subs to bring on and change the game. O'Connor is a special talent and playing him at 12 is going to cause a lot of teams a lot of problems, though not sure the balance is quite there yet in that back line, so will be close as SJE's team probably gel together more but lack the class of some of Pooly's players.
Quins 29 - 31 Tigers
Interesting one this - don't think Tigers will be that impressive at the breakdown, which gets this game close because I think if they had some better dark arts people they could have got a bigger win here, but a youthful and eager Quins team will up their game and I think actually get the upper hand at the breakdown because of the combinations. There is just a bit too much power in the pack and some very strong runners out wide for Tigers who are obviously taking this cup v seriously.
Gloucester 58 - 5 Cardiff
See any comments from Mat's team in Europe for explanation.
Scarlets 9 - 28 Irish
Too much power and Scarlets will get run ragged in second half.
Two teams setting their stalls up very similar, think Stephen Jones could well be the deciding factor here as both sets of packs very similar, would give the slight edge in dynamism to Wasps - but not sure how either team will get through the oppositions defence, espc the midfield. So its down to the boot and game management - exp of Jones edges it.
Saracens 27 - 23 Worcester
Very good sides put out by both, think Sarries edge it in terms of more threat in the backline. Cant quite see where that spark of magic will come from for Worcester to get tries, but very good pack will cause Sarries some problems.
Falcons 27 - 24 Sale
Tough to call, but the match day squad overall edges to Pooly and he's got some great subs to bring on and change the game. O'Connor is a special talent and playing him at 12 is going to cause a lot of teams a lot of problems, though not sure the balance is quite there yet in that back line, so will be close as SJE's team probably gel together more but lack the class of some of Pooly's players.
Quins 29 - 31 Tigers
Interesting one this - don't think Tigers will be that impressive at the breakdown, which gets this game close because I think if they had some better dark arts people they could have got a bigger win here, but a youthful and eager Quins team will up their game and I think actually get the upper hand at the breakdown because of the combinations. There is just a bit too much power in the pack and some very strong runners out wide for Tigers who are obviously taking this cup v seriously.
Gloucester 58 - 5 Cardiff
See any comments from Mat's team in Europe for explanation.
Scarlets 9 - 28 Irish
Too much power and Scarlets will get run ragged in second half.
dammit_chris- Posts : 8685
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
London Wasps 20 - 18 Exeter Chiefs
Massive battle up front. Slight edge to Wasps. Packs in general quite even, particularly back five. CHiefs take the HB's, but are hindered by Tindall. Nice back line from Wasps, Chiefs great form back three. Home advantage and slight set piece upperhand sees Wasps take this.
Saracens 25 - 19 Worcester
Scrum advantage to Sarries with Jones getting on top of Flatman. Back rows very tight, maybe just edge to Worcester with a nice unit. HB's to Sarries with the combo, but beyond there fairly even. At home Sarries have enough.
Bath 26 - 27 Northampton
Tight in the scrum, edge to Saints maybe but only just. Better second row as well, and real athletic back row. But Bath have some huge carriers. One apiece in the HB's, with Saints taking the centres and Bath the back three. I think Saints have picked a strong enough side to nick the win here.
Newcastle 25 - 20 Sale
Slight edge to Sale in the scrum. Locks are about even, but Newcastle's back row is very dangerous and gets the upperhand for me. HB's are really difficult to call, maybe edge to Newcastle. But behind that Newcastle the stronger for me. Comfortable in the end.
Scarlets 9 - 39 London Irish
Gloucester 47 - 6 Cardiff Blues
Last two terribly one-sided.
Massive battle up front. Slight edge to Wasps. Packs in general quite even, particularly back five. CHiefs take the HB's, but are hindered by Tindall. Nice back line from Wasps, Chiefs great form back three. Home advantage and slight set piece upperhand sees Wasps take this.
Saracens 25 - 19 Worcester
Scrum advantage to Sarries with Jones getting on top of Flatman. Back rows very tight, maybe just edge to Worcester with a nice unit. HB's to Sarries with the combo, but beyond there fairly even. At home Sarries have enough.
Bath 26 - 27 Northampton
Tight in the scrum, edge to Saints maybe but only just. Better second row as well, and real athletic back row. But Bath have some huge carriers. One apiece in the HB's, with Saints taking the centres and Bath the back three. I think Saints have picked a strong enough side to nick the win here.
Newcastle 25 - 20 Sale
Slight edge to Sale in the scrum. Locks are about even, but Newcastle's back row is very dangerous and gets the upperhand for me. HB's are really difficult to call, maybe edge to Newcastle. But behind that Newcastle the stronger for me. Comfortable in the end.
Scarlets 9 - 39 London Irish
Gloucester 47 - 6 Cardiff Blues
Last two terribly one-sided.
LukeLovesLuka- Posts : 5865
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Wasps 20–24 Exeter
Absolutely monster battle in the scrum. Think Exeter have a little bit extra in the back row and the backs. Both have good benches but feel that Exeter have more players who can close out the game.
Saracens 28-26 Warriors
Saracens have picked a beastly set of forwards and world class half backs which gives them the edge. Think Warriors stay in it with their grinding and their bench pulls it back near the end.
Newcastle 25–19 Sale
Think a key factor in this game will be Brussow. Think he will win a lot of ball for Newcastle who can use their backs to really dominate.
Quins 16-23 Tigers
Think Luke is taking this quite seriously and can really see them picking up quite a straight-forward win.
Scarlets 8-32 Irish
Irish coast this.
Gloucester 49-6 Cardiff
Gloucester coast this.
Absolutely monster battle in the scrum. Think Exeter have a little bit extra in the back row and the backs. Both have good benches but feel that Exeter have more players who can close out the game.
Saracens 28-26 Warriors
Saracens have picked a beastly set of forwards and world class half backs which gives them the edge. Think Warriors stay in it with their grinding and their bench pulls it back near the end.
Newcastle 25–19 Sale
Think a key factor in this game will be Brussow. Think he will win a lot of ball for Newcastle who can use their backs to really dominate.
Quins 16-23 Tigers
Think Luke is taking this quite seriously and can really see them picking up quite a straight-forward win.
Scarlets 8-32 Irish
Irish coast this.
Gloucester 49-6 Cardiff
Gloucester coast this.
CJB- Posts : 5762
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Saracens 24 - 21 Worcester Warriors
Newcastle 19 - 18 Sale Sharks
Quins 28 - 29 Leicester Tigers
Bath 24 - 25 Northampton Saints
Scarlets 10 - 20 Tigers
Gloucester 49 - 9 Cardiff
Newcastle 19 - 18 Sale Sharks
Quins 28 - 29 Leicester Tigers
Bath 24 - 25 Northampton Saints
Scarlets 10 - 20 Tigers
Gloucester 49 - 9 Cardiff
'Arry Spurs- Posts : 1051
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Saracens 24 - 21 Worcester Warriors warriors will compete yet struggle to score tries
Newcastle 19 - 16 Sale Sharks sale edge scrum falcons bench seal the game
Quins 28 - 29 Leicester Tigers tigers experience edges it. Yachvilli controls.
Bath 24 - 25 Northampton Saints saints edge it in last minute. Good options
For both teams Saints clean out bath lineout
Scarlets 10 - 50 Irish one way traffic
Wasps 21-21 Exeter hard to call Exeter have some players like pisi who will cause problems
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Ospreys v Dragons
London Wasps 21-25 Exeter Chiefs
Tries: Monye, Mafi
Conversations: Jones
Penalties: Jones (3)
Tries: Easter, Fitzgerald (2)
Conversations: Slade (2)
Penalties: Slade (2)
Saracens 36-21 Worcester Warriors
Tries: Gray, Trimble, Goode, Spencer
Conversations: Parra (2)
Penalties: Parra (4)
Tries: Williams, Morgan, McCabe
Conversations: Robinson (3)
Penalties:
Bath Rugby 28-28 Northampton Saints
Tries: North
Conversations: Hodgson
Penalties: Hodgson (7)
Tries: Fofana
Conversations: Giteau
Penalties: Giteau (7)
Newcastle Falcons 31-20 Sale Sharks
Tries: Smith (2), Brown, JOC
Conversations: Flood (4)
Penalties: Flood
Tries: Smith, O'Mahony
Conversations: Cruden (2)
Penalties: Cruden (2)
Harlequins 20-31 Leicester Tigers
Tries: Fearns, Rocokoko
Conversations: Burns (2)
Penalties: Burns (2)
Tries: Clerc, Croft, Tuilagi, Mears
Conversations: Yachvili (4)
Penalties: Yachvili
Scarlets 10-39 London Irish
Tries: Ford
Conversations: Thomas
Penalties: Thomas
Tries: Sisi, Nel, Basson (2), Tiesi
Conversations: Dupuy (4)
Penalties: Dupuy (2)
Gloucester Rugby 60-6 Cardiff Blues
Tries: Johnson (2), May, Hape, Fasivalu, Ousthuizen, JSD (2)
Conversations: Donald (7)
Penalties: Donald (2)
Tries:
Conversations:
Penalties: Patchell (2)
London Wasps 21-25 Exeter Chiefs
Tries: Monye, Mafi
Conversations: Jones
Penalties: Jones (3)
Tries: Easter, Fitzgerald (2)
Conversations: Slade (2)
Penalties: Slade (2)
Saracens 36-21 Worcester Warriors
Tries: Gray, Trimble, Goode, Spencer
Conversations: Parra (2)
Penalties: Parra (4)
Tries: Williams, Morgan, McCabe
Conversations: Robinson (3)
Penalties:
Bath Rugby 28-28 Northampton Saints
Tries: North
Conversations: Hodgson
Penalties: Hodgson (7)
Tries: Fofana
Conversations: Giteau
Penalties: Giteau (7)
Newcastle Falcons 31-20 Sale Sharks
Tries: Smith (2), Brown, JOC
Conversations: Flood (4)
Penalties: Flood
Tries: Smith, O'Mahony
Conversations: Cruden (2)
Penalties: Cruden (2)
Harlequins 20-31 Leicester Tigers
Tries: Fearns, Rocokoko
Conversations: Burns (2)
Penalties: Burns (2)
Tries: Clerc, Croft, Tuilagi, Mears
Conversations: Yachvili (4)
Penalties: Yachvili
Scarlets 10-39 London Irish
Tries: Ford
Conversations: Thomas
Penalties: Thomas
Tries: Sisi, Nel, Basson (2), Tiesi
Conversations: Dupuy (4)
Penalties: Dupuy (2)
Gloucester Rugby 60-6 Cardiff Blues
Tries: Johnson (2), May, Hape, Fasivalu, Ousthuizen, JSD (2)
Conversations: Donald (7)
Penalties: Donald (2)
Tries:
Conversations:
Penalties: Patchell (2)
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
No bonus for Pete and Prop. Half bonus for Driver and Arry. Full bonus everyone else
SirJohnnyEnglish- Posts : 8536
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Re: Anglo Welsh Cup Round 3
Yeah sorry guys....think I put I'd struggle to predict till now?! Just had a hectic weekend....ended up working after rugby today!!
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