so north is actually english!!

oh man- how did we miss him!!

does anyone know why he picked wales.

his father is english and he was born in england!!

and i also heard that his mother was from anglessy!!- i thought welsh hated people from anglessey and call them mutants- well they did when i was in the pubs around bangor anyway!

You quick aren't you? This has been done to death. Ian Evans is a Saffa as well.

North was trying to trace his roots to SA, we burnt the records.

Born in England but spent all his life at 'home' in North Wales. Welsh speaker, only 1 choice really. Also born in England were Jon Daviesb and Alex Cuthbert, Warburton would also qualify as his parents are English but he's a clever boy so again only 1 choice.

HammerofThunor wrote:You quick aren't you? This has been done to death. Ian Evans is a Saffa as well.

i am not bothered about the sfafa- just the player that could have played for england- gutted because i think he is awesome

doctornickolas wrote:Born in England but spent all his life at 'home' in North Wales. Welsh speaker, only 1 choice really. Also born in England were Jon Daviesb and Alex Cuthbert, Warburton would also qualify as his parents are English but he's a clever boy so again only 1 choice.

i suppose if he lived all his life in wales - fair play to him- its the natural and best choice. abit gutted mind- the welsh have a gooden there

And charteris was born in Cornwall, but that's more welsh than English anyway, proper Celt.

Wrong on all accounts... he was born in England to Welsh parents, though but after a few months after his birth they moved to Hong Kong for 5 years, then moved back to Wales.

He was asked if he would of ever considered playing for England before the World Cup and his answer was "no".


Half the Welsh team was born in England, it is nort unusual for young Welsh people to go to England for work and education as there is little in Wales, then come home when children are home for family support. The net result is a lot of young Welsh people are born in England to Welsh parents. It is very common.

it makes a change i suppose from hearing about the england cricket team every 30 seconds of the day

doctornickolas wrote:Born in England but spent all his life at 'home' in North Wales. Welsh speaker, only 1 choice really. Also born in England were Jon Daviesb and Alex Cuthbert, Warburton would also qualify as his parents are English but he's a clever boy so again only 1 choice.

That's a lie. He lived in Norfolk before moving to Wales. Lying makes baby jesus cry.

EDIT: Norfolk. Hong Kong. Same diff

AlynDavies wrote:Wrong on all accounts... he was born in England to Welsh parents, but after a few months after his birth they moved to Hong Kong for 5 years, then moved back to Wales.

He was asked if he would of ever considered playing for England before the World Cup and his answer was "no".

oh no his dad is english= well thats what everything on the internet says anyway

what does it matter. He is weslh and represents wales.

You could most likely trace half the international players of the home unions to another country.

biltonbong can you please remember that comment when we are discussing english(saffa) cricket!!

thats a nice saffa

mystiroakey wrote:oh no his dad is english= well thats what everything on the internet says anyway

Hmmm his Wiki page seems to have changed since I last read it...

Ok lets split him in half, you can have the english bits... and Wales can have the Welsh bits... so clearly Wales get the rugby talent and personality.

well he had a quality game today- you can all say thanks to his englsh father

mystiroakey wrote:biltonbong can you please remember that comment when we are discussing english(saffa) cricket!!

thats a nice saffa

Mate you are talking to the wrong guy, it has never bothered me in the least.

North wouldnt have played for England anyway, he would have been overlooked for the likes of Cueto and then left to rot in the premiership after having a cap for the Saxons

England can sod off we just let you have Ben Morgan off us

Cough! that one was a bit ropey...

North is English!

Mouritz Botha - South African
Brad Barritt - South African
Mike Catt - South African
Lesley Vainikolo - Samoan
Dylan Hartley - New Zealander
Matt Stevens - South African
Shontayne Hape - New Zealander
Riki Flutey - New Zealander
Hendrie Fourie - South African

In other words concentrate on something else!

biltongbek wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:biltonbong can you please remember that comment when we are discussing english(saffa) cricket!!

thats a nice saffa

Mate you are talking to the wrong guy, it has never bothered me in the least.

can you chuck over a few more batsman then- we could do with the next batch- maybe they are clones you posted us that have a shorter shelf life

If I recall right, he lived a lengthy period of twelve weeks in England after his birth, then moved to Hong Kong and has lived in Anglesey from the age of three.

People from Anglesey are mutants, did North look at all human to you today?

MaxImise2012 wrote:North is English!

Mouritz Botha - South African
Brad Barritt - South African
Mike Catt - South African
Lesley Vainikolo - Samoan
Dylan Hartley - New Zealander
Matt Stevens - South African
Shontayne Hape - New Zealander
Riki Flutey - New Zealander
Hendrie Fourie - South African

In other words concentrate on something else!

Only three of those are involved in the squad now. Do we really want to go down the 'foreign players from past' when Wales and Scotland are the only two sides I know that have ever actually cheated over it?

Also Lesley is a kiwi born in Tonga (to kiwi parents). The islands are not interchangeable you know.

Oakey, Not yet mate, you have to come to the end of the shelf life of those you have at the moment.

We are looking for two ourselves at the moment, once that has been solved we can continue to work on the transfer agreement, just make sure your cricket board start putting some money into our feeder system as well, the Rand isn't that strong at the moment, a few billion pounds will be the right thing to do.

Just watching the LV. Tom Biggs looks like such a girl with his wavy blond hair

a few billion quid might be worth it if one could play spin!!

Manu Tuilagi - Samoan

Do you want me to keep going?!!

Of course Wales and Scotland do it! Everyone does. Therefore it's a moot point. So why don't you just discuss North the player and his attributes. He's got nothing to do with England really.

mystiroakey wrote:a few billion quid might be worth it if one could play spin!!

Now, now, no need to get picky. You take what you get, if you complain, we can always stop the feeder system.

Let's not forget Manu Tuilagi...great English name, that one. Was due to be deported for overstaying on a 6 month holiday visa, until he "decided" that he was English and someone (probably Peter Wheeler!!) pulled a few strings at the Immigration Board...

Let's not forget Manu Tuilagi...great English name, that one. Was due to be deported for overstaying on a 6 month holiday visa, until he "decided" that he was English and someone (probably Peter Wheeler!!) pulled a few strings at the Immigration Board...

Even in the Saxons- a developmental team we have Ryan Lamb (NZ)

Thomas Waldrom - New Zealand again

Why don't England just stop playing New Zealand. It's embarrassing. You're obviously not going to beat them with a load of their cast offs. They must be laughing, and South Africa!

your all missing the point.

tuiliga is good - so we got him
north is good - so i want him
morgan is gash- why have we got him?

mystiroakey wrote:your all missing the point.

morgan is gash- why have we got him?

Someone thought he was worth a shot, they should have thought of several shots.

MaxImise2012 wrote:Even in the Saxons- a developmental team we have Ryan Lamb (NZ)

Err... Ryan Lamb was born in Gloucester.

So he was. My mistake!

mystiroakey wrote:your all missing the point.

tuiliga is good - so we got him
north is good - so i want him
morgan is gash- why have we got him?

Morgan is not gash. Hes probably the only decent 8 you've got. And Gatland seemed to rate him highly enough that he was going to include him in the Welsh squad. We could use him in Wales.

hope your right gowales

If your opinion has been formed by what Welsh fans have told you after he swore his allegiance to English... do i have to say much else? Its pretty typical of Welsh posters to say "oh we didn't need him anyway".
As a non anti-english person i can say that Morgan is a very talented and powerful player.

MaxImise2012 wrote:Of course Wales and Scotland do it! Everyone does. Therefore it's a moot point. So why don't you just discuss North the player and his attributes. He's got nothing to do with England really.

You missed the point. Wales and Scotland cheated. They break the rules. They played ineligible players. No-one else has been doing that.

gowales wrote:If your opinion has been formed by what Welsh fans have told you after he swore his allegiance to English... do i have to say much else? Its pretty typical of Welsh posters to say "oh we didn't need him anyway".
As a non anti-english person i can say that Morgan is a very talented and powerful player.

good stuff!

George North is Welsh. He speaks Welsh, he sounds Welsh. He is Welsh.
Accent is the biggest indicator of nationality. Not birth.
Even Falatau has a Welsh accent.

The Welsh team is effectively an extended club side. That is why we punch above our weight.
Perhaps this is Irelands greatest weakness. Despite dominating the HC, they are effectively a combination of two nations.

"Accent is the biggest indicator of nationality. Not birth. "

birth is immaterial to most- however parentage can play a massive part as well as were you lived for the majority of your youth(accent is a good way of putting it i suppose)

Has a RUGBY GOD got a nationality................. isn't the NORTH GOD everywhere

I think he was forged in the fires of hell, and blessed in heaven ............ and was delivered to planet Earth to make us all happified

I think where you feel like your from is the biggest indicator of nationality.

flyhalffactory wrote:Has a RUGBY GOD got a nationality................. isn't the NORTH GOD everywhere

No, but you can see the North Star from just about everywhere.

gowales wrote:I think where you feel like your from is the biggest indicator of nationality.

yeah thats for sure, and north fits that catergry.

shame about the mercenary types, but they will never stop, and nations will never stop trying to nationalise others

It's unbelieveable is how young he is, what a rugby future we all get to enjoy, from all nations. With genuine skillful rugby players like North coming through, the game is looking good, thats what matters.

Hopefully he can stay injury free. The way he throws his body around i fear he could get regular niggles.

Yes Welsh but our future is being butchered by Robinson and Townsend - the total w**ks