so north is actually english!!

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oh man- how did we miss him!!

does anyone know why he picked wales.

his father is english and he was born in england!!

and i also heard that his mother was from anglessy!!- i thought welsh hated people from anglessey and call them mutants- well they did when i was in the pubs around bangor anyway!

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:Yes Welsh but our future is being butchered by Robinson and Townsend - the total w**ks

I am in the envious position of being a welsh fella in edinburgh, yesterday was not good for the scots, i want you to do well though, the positives you can take i think is that the chances are being created, if you can just take them - not next week though!

So do people consider George North Welsh because a) he has a Welsh parents or b)because he lived the majority of his life in Wales? or is it the combination of both??

If it is a) then it baffles me when people consider Ian Evans (SA), Dan Lydiate (Eng), Aaron Shingler (Eng), Jonathan Davies (England) and Alex Cuthbert (Eng) all welsh BUT don't consider Dylan Hartley, Matt Stevens, Joe Simspon, Brad Barritt and Charlie Sharples English even though one or BOTH of their parents are English?????

If it's b) then Dylan, Alex Corbisiero, Joe, Manu Tuilagi and Charlie Sharples should be considered English because not only did they live in England for a long time but they actually went through the english rugby system, which I think is very important for the RFU to consider when selecting a team.

Also, the whole notion that England is poaching New Zealand is non-sense because the only one in the team who's born in NZ is Dylan and as I mentioned he has an English mother, and according to him a very posh grandmother, and went through the english rugby system not the NZ one.

In Conclusion, if George North is 100% Welsh then England is 96.9% English, which is actually 25% more English then people assume.

faraway, just want to clear something up for. When you're on the wind up you are allowed to be as hypocritical as you want. There are very very few people who think that North is Welsh but Corbisiero is a yank. And they are idiots. Best to be ignored or joined in with but certainly not taken seriously

faraway wrote:So do people consider George North Welsh because a) he has a Welsh parents or b)because he lived the majority of his life in Wales? or is it the combination of both??

If it is a) then it baffles me when people consider Ian Evans (SA), Dan Lydiate (Eng), Aaron Shingler (Eng), Jonathan Davies (England) and Alex Cuthbert (Eng) all welsh BUT don't consider Dylan Hartley, Matt Stevens, Joe Simspon, Brad Barritt and Charlie Sharples English even though one or BOTH of their parents are English?????

If it's b) then Dylan, Alex Corbisiero, Joe, Manu Tuilagi and Charlie Sharples should be considered English because not only did they live in England for a long time but they actually went through the english rugby system, which I think is very important for the RFU to consider when selecting a team.

Also, the whole notion that England is poaching New Zealand is non-sense because the only one in the team who's born in NZ is Dylan and as I mentioned he has an English mother, and according to him a very posh grandmother, and went through the english rugby system not the NZ one.

In Conclusion, if George North is 100% Welsh then England is 96.9% English, which is actually 25% more English then people assume.

i started this thread based on the fact that i only just realised north has some english roots and the fcat that i think he is a very good player and would love to have him playing for england.

however he choose wales. if he had choose england , we would just have arguments the other way, dual nationals cannot win.

north isnt 100% weslh at all- however he is 100% entitled to play for wales, just like he is 100% entitled to play for england if he choose that route.

the problems we have arnt about players like north, from my point of view its from players that may get a chance to play for a team just because one of there granparents is of another nationality- and that person really has no links to that country. I think if you have lived in a country and gone through a certain system with that country its also fair play!

Im sure in another life if North got signed up by Sale instead of Scarlets and England came knocking with the Welsh showing little interest. He wouldn't have minded playing for England.

Messymesina wrote:Perhaps this is Irelands greatest weakness. Despite dominating the HC, they are effectively a combination of two nations.

Eh?

gowales wrote:Im sure in another life if North got signed up by Sale instead of Scarlets and England came knocking with the Welsh showing little interest. He wouldn't have minded playing for England.

He would have said no, I know George very well and if you ever meet him just ask him about the tattoo

Even if Wales had no interest in him at all?

ok if his dads work was in england he would have probally choose england.

anyway its immaterial-he grew up in wales he feels welsh and that that!

good on him and good luck. I might actually care about the lions abit more if he is playing- he is some talent

gowales wrote:Even if Wales had no interest in him at all?

Let's be realistic here players with his talent do not get ignored Wales would cap him just to stop anybody else getting him.

mystiroakey wrote:oh man- how did we miss him!!

does anyone know why he picked wales.

his father is english and he was born in england!!

and i also heard that his mother was from anglessy!!- i thought welsh hated people from anglessey and call them mutants- well they did when i was in the pubs around bangor anyway!

Joe Calzaghe was born in England as well...

faraway wrote:So do people consider George North Welsh because a) he has a Welsh parents or b)because he lived the majority of his life in Wales? or is it the combination of both??

If it is a) then it baffles me when people consider Ian Evans (SA), Dan Lydiate (Eng), Aaron Shingler (Eng), Jonathan Davies (England) and Alex Cuthbert (Eng) all welsh BUT don't consider Dylan Hartley, Matt Stevens, Joe Simspon, Brad Barritt and Charlie Sharples English even though one or BOTH of their parents are English?????

If it's b) then Dylan, Alex Corbisiero, Joe, Manu Tuilagi and Charlie Sharples should be considered English because not only did they live in England for a long time but they actually went through the english rugby system, which I think is very important for the RFU to consider when selecting a team.

Also, the whole notion that England is poaching New Zealand is non-sense because the only one in the team who's born in NZ is Dylan and as I mentioned he has an English mother, and according to him a very posh grandmother, and went through the english rugby system not the NZ one.

In Conclusion, if George North is 100% Welsh then England is 96.9% English, which is actually 25% more English then people assume.

Sharples is definitely English, his brother goes to my Uni

In another world Lomu's dad wouldve taken a job down the coalmines in aber, and the legend wouldve played in red!

Ps Morgan is going to be running the English back row soon enough, he is such a powerhouse, he's like Easter but with pace and power, and less soft!