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Bath Rugby	Bathite
Exeter Chiefs	Ozzy
Gloucester	Prop
Harlequins	Driver
Leicester Tigers	Pooly
London Irish	Pull
London Wasps	Nick
Newcastle Falcons	Flux
Northampton Saints	Johnny
Sale Sharks	Ollie
Saracens	Luke
Worcester Warriors	ITFL

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Why does every draw get a bonus point?

I think technically it is only 1 point for a draw and a bonus point for being within 7. So, by definition each draw is worth two points. Sorry for the confusion

It's 2 points for a draw mate, no bonus point for being within 7. There is a clue.....

(losing) bonus point

Note to self.....don't let Bathite do the table updates lol

whatever

Pooly, any danger of answering my foreign U21 question or are you ignoring it?

What question?

Are foreign U21s open?

Nope

I'll be looking to do a U21 signing at some point but not yet.

Here it says the score was Falcons score was 24 - 18, and on the page it was 24 -17?!

How are doing the U21 foriegns? Are using someone's favourite D-word to pick them, or just like the current foriegns?

No need to worry they arnt happening anytime soon

It was 24-17

Thanks pooly, just wanted to check.

After some cash fellas

He says after signing Danny Care!

Fine by me!

Yep, fine by me as well

Tom Lindsey
Joe Grey
Rob Buchanan

Mark Lambert (TH/LH)
Joe Marler (LH)
Kyle Synklare
Kieran Brookes (LH/HK/TH)

George Robson
Ollie Kohn
George Skivington
Charlie Matthews
Tom Denton

Chris Robshaw
Will Skinner
Nick Easter
Matt Kvesic
Connor Clifford

Danny Cipriani

Andy Short
Riki Flutey
Tom Casson
Sam Stuart



Elliot Daly
Sam Smith
Tom Williams


Ollie Lindsay-Hague


All EQ and are capabale of stepping into 1st team action as of next season!

This has been in the pipeline for a few weeks Bathite.

There's basically no change except in the HC, I want this competition to be really competitive and see the EQ rule as a way to do this.

It would be unfair of me to up the AP EQ limit without everyone getting a chance to decide if it'll work for them.

Only messing, you said I was easy to wind up! Pretty unfortunate timing I'd say though!

Guys

Won't be on that much other next 2 days i)Have my SIA paper exams and conflict management to do tomorrow followed by physio on the night so if i'm on it will be about 10 and ii) I'v got a all day physical intervention course on Thursday and rugby coaching on the night. So if don't be making any drastic deals without me ;-)

Fancy knocking up this weeks team thread Bathite, I know you're keen to get involved and Flux could do with a week off.

Oh, I see how it is...

Yeah can do, not until after work though, about 8ish

You don't mind do you Sam? Lol

Always good to have backup options!

Haha, no of course not, was only joshing.

Fluxy - sent you a PM mate.

Pooly - will do league table tonight. Are the budgets after predo budgets? I might release some and have enough for a foreign...

Disappointed I lost to Wasps.. going through the sides I thought at least 10 of my players were stronger individually and I had a better bench. I guess home advantage and more settled players went for them?

Your bench didn't have a hooker on pull, and I don't tend to go on individuals, more on how people would fit together as a team. Just having good inviduals is not enough, or the Ospreys would have been Heineken Cup champions by now.

Agree with those sentiments Ozzy. I also weight home advantage and combos at lock, back row, half back and centres v.highly

everyone subconsciously rates their own players higher. looking at teams, I cant see what 10 players you think are rated better than mine. everyones opinion will be different.

Think i would have a combined side of

Lahiff
Bucky
Raaut
Garvey
Wentzel
Gibson
Salvi
Wannen

Dickson
Bowden
Tuilagi
JTH
JJ
Thompstone
Homer

Prefer Irish front row, but not by much. Wasps second row, good balance. Wasps centres

Out of interest pull, which 10 players of yours did you see as better? I've just had another look through and in most positions there was very little between individuals.

It's more combo's than individuals for me. There wasn't much in the game, I thought you were very evenly matched tbh. Home advantage was a big factor.

away from home I think you have to have the upper hand in the pack and have a good fly half to control things well.

Erm, I would rate it as this:

Lahiff > Payne
Buckland > Brooker
Raut > Broster
Palmer > Garvey (although close)
Kennedy > Wentzel
Danahar = Du Plessis (don't know much about DP though)
Gibson < Salvi (more AP experience)
Wannenburg > Hala'ufia

Simpson > Dickson (closer to England shirt - perhaps not!!)
Bowden > Robinson

Thompstone = Varndell
Hape < JTH
King > JJ (JJ a rising star but King more experience, been class for ages)
Yarde < Tuilagi
Homer > Haughton

I make that 10 better. I've rushed that though. Also bench has Dermody, Ion, Mafi, Pocock, Armitage!! More detailed tactics..

As I said, just a bit disappointed, not overly bothered! Just hard to see where you can improve if you're way off the mark.

Overall, I'd say the team that deserves to win wins, because it's an average opinion.

My take on it...

Lahiff better in the loose, Payne better in the scrum.
Bucko and Brooker nothing in it.
Both tightheads are gash.
(net result is though that Payne is more likely to get the better of Faan than Lahiff is of Broster in the scrum)
Palmer and Kennedy as a pair lack grunt and doesn't work for me, whereas Garvey and Wentzel is an archetypal enforcer/lineout specialist combination.
Danaher and Du Plessis even
Gibson and Salvi even but very different players
Wannenburg and Hala'ufia even with different skill sets
More balance ot the Wasps back row with a traditional 7 out there.

Simpson is better than Dickson
Bowden and Robinson are even
I like the control Dickson would bring though.

Thompstone and Varndell even, and neither are great defenders
Hape and JTH even and similar players
JJ for me much better than King already
Tuilagi better than Yarde
Haughton better attacker, Homer more solid all round game.


All about opinions as has been said. I think I have said before I put probably 60-70% on the pack, and to win away from home you have to win the pack battle for me, and by a bit of a margin.

Interesting how differently people see it, my take:


Payne > Lahiff
Brooker > Buckland (Combo to Wasps)
Broster = Faan
Garvey = Palmer
Wentzal > Kennedy (Combo to Wasps)
TDP < Danaher
Salvi > Gibson (Combo to Wasps)
Wannaberg > Hal

Dickson => Simpson
Robinson < Bowden (Combo just to Irish)

JTH > Hape
JJ =< King (Combo just to Wasps on form)

Vardell > Yarde
Tuilagi >(>) Thompstone (Combo to Wasps)
Haughton => Homer

Wasps had a definate pack edge, not a massive one but sneaked it. Little bit more in the centres on form and a lot more in the back 3. Gibson more a 6 than a 7 IMO and would suffer v Salvi. Payne better scrummager than Lahiff but Lahiff better in loose. Brooker a fair bit better than Buckland and both TH's pretty poor.

Haughton sneaks Homer as I think Homer is pump and Wasps other 2 wingers stronger. Cracking midfield battle and great combo's but Wasps more form.

And I thought you were starting to warm to Homer Pooly!!!

I just don't comment anymore Pete lol.

He looks even worse live which I didn't see coming

He talks like some American Gangster Baller on Twitter which annoys me!

Thoughts on improvment on my Quins team

i)Front row needs to grizzle up
ii)Younger 8
iii)Front row depth
iiii)Ball winning 7

1.Joe Marler
2.Joe Grey
3.James Johnstone
4.Ollie Kohn (Charlie Matthews will be there soon)
5.George Robson
6.Chris Robshaw
7.Matt Kvesic
8.Nick Easter

9.Luke Burgess
10.Nick Evans
11.Elliot Daley
12.Riki Flutey
13.Jared Payne (Andy Short will play here in next 2 years)
14.Scott Hamilton
15.Adam Ashley-Cooper

I'll comment after our game mate, not really fair otherwise. What's your logic for care out And burgess in? Was surprised there massively

Burgess is a better player and availible all year round

Anymore input?

I'll let you know after our game mate, don't think it is fair otherwise, don't want it to seem like im slagging your team off before I play you

Tasty side mate, I'd say a better 3 & 4 would be next upgrade.

You need a game plan of sorts to progress though, hard to give a team a win with nothing.

a winger to replace Hamilton, a better enforcer lock than Kohn and a big scrummaging tighthead.

Flutey out for the season I think as well, might be possible that he won't return again and if he does, will he still be rated, hasn't played much since the Lions at all? Just a thought.

Whats happened to Flutey over the years??? He's been awful this season