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The 606V2 Fantastic Fantasy League Homepage III
First topic message reminder :
League A
Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - MaccladsReal Ale Sociedad - TwisTAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyStraight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBullCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
Viva City - VivaPaulScholesShuntingsheep F.C - Fan Gilhaus
Carling FC - InTheFastLane
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League B
Sticky Toffee Puddings - BigFellasAfroJacamos United - TSCFC Furious - nick_furySporting Sideburns FC - Y I ManAFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando
FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfanWalker Texas Rangers FC - Nay Bother
City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze
606V2 EURODivision
Announcements
Domestic Transfers Now Open
Polls for Best Positions Now Being Posted - Please Vote
First Match is on Wednesday 7th March
Polls for Best Positions Now Being Posted - Please Vote
First Match is on Wednesday 7th March
Everyone in League A (who votes on League B) send their results to Hero.
Everyone in League B (who votes on League A) sends their results to TSC
Everyone in League B (who votes on League A) sends their results to TSC
League Breakdown and Rules
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- Welcome to the 606v2 Euro Division
Where this will be different to the existing leagues is that the sides involved are entirely made up.
You don't inherit a pre-made European side.
Instead you make your own.
You would initially start with £150m with which to buy a MINIMUM of 15 players and a MAXIMUM of 23 players.
The prices for these players are determined entirely through the transfermarkt website.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/
But here's where it gets interesting...the prices that are used on transfermarkt are the minimum you can bid, because other people in the league may also want the same person, so do you risk bidding the flat fee or do you bid more (increased bids have to be a minimum £500k more), the other point of note at this stage is that the maximum value player you can bid on is £15m (though you can choose to bid more than the £15m to get the player)
You then get an ADDITIONAL £50m with which to purchase upto 2 STAR players (min 1), though the maximum you can spend on 1 player is £35m.
This will then result in you having a team of a minimum of 16 players and maximum of 25 players.
You then have to name the team, give it a location where they play their home games and send this via PM to myself and Sodhat before the cut off point (to be decided).
Results of who got which player will then be announced and for those that lost out on players due to being outbid, a second chance is available to acquire players before the league starts, and third etc if needed.
Number of leagues is dependent upon how many players participate.
Foreign transfers.
As the only deciding factor for selling a player is cash then there shouldn't be wrangles over if a TP is accepted or not, if you have the cash you can buy!
TPs though will only go through once a week on a Sunday night for the week ahead.
Max transfer value for bringing in a player from foreign transfers is £15m in Season 1.
You can only make 2 foreign transfers per week.
Domestic transfers
Players can move only twice between domestic clubs per season, once they have moved twice you will have to wait until the following season to sell to another domestic club.
They can though be released or sold to an outside club.
For anyone that joins the league after it begins then the following rule applies for the first two weeks:
Transfers between 2 domestic clubs must be within 20% of each other in total monetary value. So for example if Team A wish to buy a player from Team B worth £10m then they must offer between £8-£12m in player/cash value.
Note that once 2 weeks have passed then the manager is allowed to but and sell as they please but this rule is in place to combat the usual bombardment of silly offers that litter the new managers page.
Injuries
Injuries shall be announced once per week on a Sunday night, they shall consist of 2 players, one based from the team picked for the previous weeks game and one from the entire squad.
Tactics
Each week you shall play 1 game, either league or cup (no more than one game per week though), tactics for this game shall consist of a team sheet, injuries for your team and a maximum of 15 bullet point lines worth of team instructions.
As well as the tactical instructions you are allowed 2 extra lines of a team talk to motivate your players, show your worth not just for tactics but how you build players up for the game!
Failure to get tactics up by the deadline of 11:59pm each Wednesday without a decent reason will result in a goal loss per day not posted and no entitlement to cash bonus that week. Repeated failure shall result in extra injuries to team and possible expulsion from the league.
Please do not look at your opponents tactics if they are already posted, it's giving you an unfair advantage and basically cheating. If it is deemed to have taken place then you will be forced to hand in your tactics in first on a weekly basis.
Cash
Each week you receive 2m for a win, 1m for a draw, zilch for a loss.
You also receive an extra £2m per week for ensuring your tactics are handed in on time and you've voted on the results.
Each week there shall be a £1m cash bonus to the team voted best tactics.
Hopefully this is enough to entice to sign up! If you have any further questions then please do not hesitate to ask and I look forward to seeing your team sheets!
Confirmed participants
1. Macclads
2. Fernando
3. The BrahmaBull
4. CherriesFan
5. Ollyrules
6. YI Man
7. TSC
8. Twist
9. Marky
10. Nay Bother
11. In the Fast Lane
12. Nick Fury
13. BigFellasAfro
14. ncfc_Tooze
15. Fan Gilhaus
16. VivaPaulScholes
Waiting list
Sodhat
Nadeem
League A
Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - MaccladsReal Ale Sociedad - TwisTAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyStraight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBullCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
Viva City - VivaPaulScholesShuntingsheep F.C - Fan Gilhaus
Carling FC - InTheFastLane
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League B
Sticky Toffee Puddings - BigFellasAfroJacamos United - TSCFC Furious - nick_furySporting Sideburns FC - Y I ManAFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando
FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfanWalker Texas Rangers FC - Nay Bother
City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze
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However, they have Llorente up front instead of 2008 Torres or David Villa.
His hair has got to hit them badly.
His hair has got to hit them badly.
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GK: Hart, Green
RB: Richards, Walker
LB: A Cole, Baines
CB: Terry, Cahill, Lescott, Jagielka
CM: Parker, Wilshere, Barry, Gerrard, Scholes
AM: Young, A Johnson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lennon
CF: Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Defoe
Only 2 goalkeepers realistically needed, Oxlade-Chamberlain ahead of Walcott, Scholes even if he's only a second half sub as there's no-one English better at keeping possession than him.
RB: Richards, Walker
LB: A Cole, Baines
CB: Terry, Cahill, Lescott, Jagielka
CM: Parker, Wilshere, Barry, Gerrard, Scholes
AM: Young, A Johnson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lennon
CF: Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Defoe
Only 2 goalkeepers realistically needed, Oxlade-Chamberlain ahead of Walcott, Scholes even if he's only a second half sub as there's no-one English better at keeping possession than him.
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23 man squad Tooze.
Did my selection kill the conversation that badly?!
Did my selection kill the conversation that badly?!
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GK: Hart, Green, Carson
RB: Richards, Walker
LB: A Cole, Baines
CB: Rio, Cahill, Jagielka
CM: Parker, Wilshere, Jones, Gerrard, Scholes
AM: Young, A Johnson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott
CF: Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Carroll
I can't have Terry in my team full stop...
I prefer Jones to Barry. I've never fully 'got' Barry. He is a decent player but Jones offers more, and with Scholes there, it means that Parker can do the dirty work and Scholes can play the ball.
Walcott over Lennon, but only as an impact sub. I'd have Johnson/Young as my starters.
Carroll over Defoe simply because he offers something totally different to the other strikers and it could be important.
I have three keepers because I'm cautious, plus Jones or Richards can play CB if they needed to.
RB: Richards, Walker
LB: A Cole, Baines
CB: Rio, Cahill, Jagielka
CM: Parker, Wilshere, Jones, Gerrard, Scholes
AM: Young, A Johnson, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Walcott
CF: Rooney, Welbeck, Sturridge, Carroll
I can't have Terry in my team full stop...
I prefer Jones to Barry. I've never fully 'got' Barry. He is a decent player but Jones offers more, and with Scholes there, it means that Parker can do the dirty work and Scholes can play the ball.
Walcott over Lennon, but only as an impact sub. I'd have Johnson/Young as my starters.
Carroll over Defoe simply because he offers something totally different to the other strikers and it could be important.
I have three keepers because I'm cautious, plus Jones or Richards can play CB if they needed to.
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Only change I think I'd make to the selection you made is to take out Terry for Jones, yes Terry is still a better defender but I think that the effect his presence could have in the dressing room outways the positives.
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Actually I'd take Crouch over Defoe/Carroll, don't care what people say about Crouch, for England he does the job.
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Marky, sorry but some of that squad should NOT be taken.
Lescott - think his haircut speaks for itself. Hes not that good at all, we have better.
Cahill - rubbish haircut = hes rubbish. He is over hyped because he is english.
Barry - awful haircut = awful player, offers nothing but makes up the numbers. Michael Carrick is being overlooked. He has a sick haircut and is playing very well this season. Offers more than Barry.
Oxlade-Chamberlain - too young, needs to let his hair grow and develop as well as himself as a player. That wont happen in 2 1/2 months at Arsenal.
Lescott - think his haircut speaks for itself. Hes not that good at all, we have better.
Cahill - rubbish haircut = hes rubbish. He is over hyped because he is english.
Barry - awful haircut = awful player, offers nothing but makes up the numbers. Michael Carrick is being overlooked. He has a sick haircut and is playing very well this season. Offers more than Barry.
Oxlade-Chamberlain - too young, needs to let his hair grow and develop as well as himself as a player. That wont happen in 2 1/2 months at Arsenal.
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i think ruddy will be in before the euros
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Viva till Summer 2011 sick haircut = Sick player
Viva after Summer 2011 crap haircut = Crap player
So this theory is very true and we all need to accept it rather then try to mess it up.
Viva after Summer 2011 crap haircut = Crap player
So this theory is very true and we all need to accept it rather then try to mess it up.
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Tooze stop the Norwich bias no one from your team deserves to play for England. I know people say that they only pick players from the big teams thats because the big teams have the best players. These little players need to leave theirl ittle teams join a big team and then get to the England team.
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Have heard some really strong rumours from my colleague (the Real Madrid club member) that Real have already agreed a deal to take Krasic to the Bernabeau and that Perez is a huge fan.
They have seen the impact that the pace of Sanchez has had and are following suit a little I feel.
Watch this space, but expect to see Krasic in the white of Los Meringues next season. Seems an unlikely turnaround for Krasic, but proof that even if your face doesn't fit at one club, world class players always have somewhere else to go.
I'll try and find out more
They have seen the impact that the pace of Sanchez has had and are following suit a little I feel.
Watch this space, but expect to see Krasic in the white of Los Meringues next season. Seems an unlikely turnaround for Krasic, but proof that even if your face doesn't fit at one club, world class players always have somewhere else to go.
I'll try and find out more
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Is carson better than ruddy then?
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http://www.eplindex.com/10829/michael-carrick-its-a-confidence-thing-opta-stats.html
There you go. Check out that, shows comparrisons between Barry, Parker and Carrick.
There you go. Check out that, shows comparrisons between Barry, Parker and Carrick.
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In terms of ability they are probably the same but what does Ruddy have on his C.V? If we had to call on him during the Euros would he be able to handle the pressure. It's too late in the season to call up an untried untested player unless we have some serious injuries in that department.
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Carson is currently the keeper for the second best defence in Turkey.
That is no mean feat given the dominance of the Istanbul clubs
That is no mean feat given the dominance of the Istanbul clubs
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Why carson shouldnt go
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BigFellasAfro wrote:Have heard some really strong rumours from my colleague (the Real Madrid club member) that Real have already agreed a deal to take Krasic to the Bernabeau and that Perez is a huge fan.
They have seen the impact that the pace of Sanchez has had and are following suit a little I feel.
Watch this space, but expect to see Krasic in the white of Los Meringues next season. Seems an unlikely turnaround for Krasic, but proof that even if your face doesn't fit at one club, world class players always have somewhere else to go.
I'll try and find out more
Looking for more info online and ended up watching youtube videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF0CIYt6KQY&feature=related
It's easy to forget how class Krasic actually is.
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ncfc_Tooze wrote:
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Why carson shouldnt go
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Is nobody going to check this link:
http://www.eplindex.com/10829/michael-carrick-its-a-confidence-thing-opta-stats.html
Carrick for England !!!
http://www.eplindex.com/10829/michael-carrick-its-a-confidence-thing-opta-stats.html
Carrick for England !!!
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I would love for carrick to go
I have asked the board who they would take
https://www.606v2.com/t25053-who-would-you-take-as-third-choice-england-goalkeeper-for-euros
I have asked the board who they would take
https://www.606v2.com/t25053-who-would-you-take-as-third-choice-england-goalkeeper-for-euros
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nick_fury wrote:Is nobody going to check this link:
http://www.eplindex.com/10829/michael-carrick-its-a-confidence-thing-opta-stats.html
Carrick for England !!!
But why did Ferguson prefer to bench Carrick and bring back a retired Paul Scholes?
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Tooze if we don't take players because they have made a mistake then we have no players. These things happen and it was awful why do we always have to make a player a scapegoat the fact is the whole England team were rubbish and you can't put the blame on one single person.
Nick I did check it and I was suprised to see Carrick come out top in the tackle percentage department. Whenever United don't play well Carrick is blamed even though it was the rest of the team who also played poor. I like him I think he is a very good player and shows that you don't need to dive in to get the ball.
Nick I did check it and I was suprised to see Carrick come out top in the tackle percentage department. Whenever United don't play well Carrick is blamed even though it was the rest of the team who also played poor. I like him I think he is a very good player and shows that you don't need to dive in to get the ball.
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Err he hasnt benched him. Its called rotation + Carrick still starts moreBut why did Ferguson prefer to bench Carrick and bring back a retired Paul Scholes?
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we dont have enough good goalkeepers is what Im saying more than anything. We have only had one excellent goalkeeper (hart) for a long time now and he needs people around him who have a decent shot of pushing him to do even better.
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If Carrick was doing so well, SAF wouldn't be worried about rotating and would be using Scholes purely as cover for Carrick, not in rotation.
BTW Parker had really good % stats too, but then he only passes it 5 yards. I reckon if Gerrard did the same passes as Parker and Carrick, he would be on 100%
BTW Parker had really good % stats too, but then he only passes it 5 yards. I reckon if Gerrard did the same passes as Parker and Carrick, he would be on 100%
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Afro why do you bum Gerrard so much? He ain't that good, would loved to see him at Chelsea and be sitting on the bench because he ain't good enough to play for a top class team because he does not have the brain.
Lampard > Gerrard
Lampard > Gerrard
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also Scholes and Carrick started against us and were the best part of a poor, lucky to win united team
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I think the main gripe with Carrick is his inability to play a ball forward.
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VivaPaulScholes wrote:Afro why do you bum Gerrard so much? He ain't that good, would loved to see him at Chelsea and be sitting on the bench because he ain't good enough to play for a top class team because he does not have the brain.
Lampard > Gerrard
Gerrard is the most complete English midfielder the Premier League has seen and to say he has no brain is laughable and shows either blinkered Man Utd bias, or a lack of understanding of football.
I can't stand him as an Everton fan, but I can at least put my bias aside and see how good he is.
Even SAF picked him out as the one player from the opposition that he would most have liked to have signed during his time at United
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Nick I did check it and I was suprised to see Carrick come out top in the tackle percentage department. Whenever United don't play well Carrick is blamed even though it was the rest of the team who also played poor. I like him I think he is a very good player and shows that you don't need to dive in to get the ball.
Check his interceptions out too.
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ATM Parker>Gerrard
and
Tubbs>Rooney
and
Tubbs>Rooney
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I think the main gripe with Carrick is his inability to play a ball forward.
You say that but he created 18 chances more regulary than Barry and Parker.
Now thats just stupid Afro. In febuary Carrick has started 4/5 matches, Scholes 2/5.If Carrick was doing so well, SAF wouldn't be worried about rotating and would be using Scholes purely as cover for Carrick, not in rotation.
You of all people should know SAF will rotate (fixture depending) comming into the business end of the season. He always has, look at how Yorke and Cole were firing in 99 but Ole and Teddy still got games and goals.
Im actually disapointed in you Afro for making that statemant, expect better from you
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Tooze sorry can you please explain to me how United were lucky to beat Norwich? Did United get a dodgy offside goal? Were Norwich denied a goal because of poor ref? No sorry United were not lucky they were good enough to win just because it was a late goal does not make it lucky.
Afro stop acting like Fan because someone disagrees with you in Football does not mean they don't understand it. Gerrard would be sitting on the United bench sorry but he would not be in the side ahead of Beckham, Scholes Keane and Giggs maybe when we had the likes of Smith and O'Shea playing in midfield.
Countless time he plays the Hollywood ball and it never reaches the player all he does is run and run ask himto dictate the midfield he can never do it, why did Benitez prefer Lucas in CM over Gerrard. Ask Gerrard to control a midfield playing in a 4-4-2 he can never do it. Gerrard would struggle to play in a team who try to play Football teams who keep the ball all he does is boot it and hit it as hard as he can. Give me Paul Scholes any day.
Afro stop acting like Fan because someone disagrees with you in Football does not mean they don't understand it. Gerrard would be sitting on the United bench sorry but he would not be in the side ahead of Beckham, Scholes Keane and Giggs maybe when we had the likes of Smith and O'Shea playing in midfield.
Countless time he plays the Hollywood ball and it never reaches the player all he does is run and run ask himto dictate the midfield he can never do it, why did Benitez prefer Lucas in CM over Gerrard. Ask Gerrard to control a midfield playing in a 4-4-2 he can never do it. Gerrard would struggle to play in a team who try to play Football teams who keep the ball all he does is boot it and hit it as hard as he can. Give me Paul Scholes any day.
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Im actually disapointed in you Afro for making that statemant, expect better from you
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Me too thought you would have understood Afro but guess you're like the others and have no understanding of Football.
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Me too thought you would have understood Afro but guess you're like the others and have no understanding of Football.
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Afro, Man United Jan fixtured:
Carrick started 6/6
Scholes started 3/6
Overall since Scholes return:
Carrick started 10/11
Scholes started 5/11
I think the FACKTS just showed you up there Afro
Carrick started 6/6
Scholes started 3/6
Overall since Scholes return:
Carrick started 10/11
Scholes started 5/11
I think the FACKTS just showed you up there Afro
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Thats why Alonso was so valuable to Liverpool.Ask Gerrard to control a midfield playing in a 4-4-2 he can never do it.
Give me Paul Scholes any day. - Here Here
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VivaPaulScholes wrote:Im actually disapointed in you Afro for making that statemant, expect better from you
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Me too thought you would have understood Afro but guess you're like the others and have no understanding of Football.
VivaPaulScholes wrote:Afro stop acting like Fan because someone disagrees with you in Football does not mean they don't understand it.
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Afro, Man United Jan fixtured:
Carrick started 6/6
Scholes started 3/6
Overall since Scholes return:
Carrick started 10/11
Scholes started 5/11
I think the FACKTS just showed you up there Afro
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Please can you explain that Afro? You say Scholes was brought in for Carrick but Carrick has played more. Come on Afro you need to reply to that.
Sodhat think you missed the point but I should have expected that when Afro is your mentor.
Carrick started 6/6
Scholes started 3/6
Overall since Scholes return:
Carrick started 10/11
Scholes started 5/11
I think the FACKTS just showed you up there Afro
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Please can you explain that Afro? You say Scholes was brought in for Carrick but Carrick has played more. Come on Afro you need to reply to that.
Sodhat think you missed the point but I should have expected that when Afro is your mentor.
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:fishingrodsmiley:
You two are far worse than Fan when it comes to someone having a different opinion.
You two are far worse than Fan when it comes to someone having a different opinion.
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I don't think so, I mean one minute you said you can't accuse someone of not understanding football and then the next you accused Afro of not understanding football.
I considered briefly that you were being ironic...
On Carrick, I actually like him, but then I'm a West Ham fan and he is another product of our glorious youth era. One thing I definitely think is that he plays much better with Scholes alongside him.
I considered briefly that you were being ironic...
On Carrick, I actually like him, but then I'm a West Ham fan and he is another product of our glorious youth era. One thing I definitely think is that he plays much better with Scholes alongside him.
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For the record, my actual opinion is that Carrick has played really well this season and should be ahead of at least Barry in the England reckoning.
But I also disagree with your opinions on Gerrard. I rate Scholes very highly, but I would rather have Gerrard in my midfield out of the two. it is close, but that is my opinion
But I also disagree with your opinions on Gerrard. I rate Scholes very highly, but I would rather have Gerrard in my midfield out of the two. it is close, but that is my opinion
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Gerrard is one of the best midfielders in the modern game, Zizou himself said as much and I'd take his verdict over Dappy wanabees.
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VivaPaulScholes wrote:Tooze sorry can you please explain to me how United were lucky to beat Norwich? Did United get a dodgy offside goal? Were Norwich denied a goal because of poor ref? No sorry United were not lucky they were good enough to win just because it was a late goal does not make it lucky.
Afro stop acting like Fan because someone disagrees with you in Football does not mean they don't understand it. Gerrard would be sitting on the United bench sorry but he would not be in the side ahead of Beckham, Scholes Keane and Giggs maybe when we had the likes of Smith and O'Shea playing in midfield.
Countless time he plays the Hollywood ball and it never reaches the player all he does is run and run ask himto dictate the midfield he can never do it, why did Benitez prefer Lucas in CM over Gerrard. Ask Gerrard to control a midfield playing in a 4-4-2 he can never do it. Gerrard would struggle to play in a team who try to play Football teams who keep the ball all he does is boot it and hit it as hard as he can. Give me Paul Scholes any day.
Ahem
"But I have to say we were lucky today in the sense that although we made a host of chances, Danny Welbeck could have scored four. I thought Norwich were the better team."
"In that first half, they put 12 crosses into the box and if it wasn't for (Rio) Ferdinand, (Jonny) Evans and David de Gea, we wouldn't have survived it."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7549810/Fergie-hails-special-moment
“I have to say we were lucky in the sense that although we made a host of chances – Danny Welbeck could have scored four – I thought Norwich were the better team,” he said. “They kept at it and kept at it and deserved their goal, there’s no question about it. They deserved a result actually. They had a lot of thrust about them, determined and kept crossing that ball into the box."
“Norwich had more promise about them"
http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/norwich_city_were_the_better_team_admits_manchester_united_boss_sir_alex_ferguson_1_1220930
Seems as though it isnt just me that felt united were lucky
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I have Scholes over Gerrard, but I don't agree with some of the criticism levelled above. He is a complete midfielder and he has carried some very average Liverpool teams seemingly on his own at times.
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I don't think so, I mean one minute you said you can't accuse someone of not understanding football and then the next you accused Afro of not understanding football.
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Well it was a joke of course I wouldn't be daft enough to say one thing and then disagree with what I said in the next post. Now that I had to explain this you've killed the buzz on the main page. Everyone stop posting you can thank Sodhat for it.
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Well it was a joke of course I wouldn't be daft enough to say one thing and then disagree with what I said in the next post. Now that I had to explain this you've killed the buzz on the main page. Everyone stop posting you can thank Sodhat for it.
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Macclads wrote:Gerrard is one of the best midfielders in the modern game, Zizou himself said as much and I'd take his verdict over Dappy wanabees.
Don't say that otherwise they will flood the page again with comments about you not understanding football and Paul Scholes being better, but then also telling you that you are like Fan because you aren't letting them have their own opinions and arguing against them.
isn't that right VivaPotScholes and NickFurryKettle?
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VivaPaulScholes wrote:I don't think so, I mean one minute you said you can't accuse someone of not understanding football and then the next you accused Afro of not understanding football.
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Well it was a joke of course I wouldn't be daft enough to say one thing and then disagree with what I said in the next post. Now that I had to explain this you've killed the buzz on the main page. Everyone stop posting you can thank Sodhat for it.
Sorry Viva, tone is difficult to infer in written text. I did put a laugh smiley though, so you can take that as me laughing at your gag.
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sodhat wrote:I have Scholes over Gerrard, but I don't agree with some of the criticism levelled above. He is a complete midfielder and he has carried some very average Liverpool teams seemingly on his own at times.
Scholes is a brilliant player in his own right as is Gerrard. I would have loved either to have played for Everton, just if I had to pick, I would have gone for Gerrard (if you took away his Liverpool history).
Scholes could run a game better than Gerrard, but Gerrard can carry a team and drive them forward better than Scholes. If the team is on the back foot and under pressure, Scholes becomes less effective and is prone to mistakes, Gerrard remains as effective and pulls them through the pressure.
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Gerrard is good and he is complete.
Scholes cant tackle and thats it. Every other aspect of him game IMO is.was better than Gerrard.
Both in there prime, Scholes.
Now, Scholes.
Gerrard look a shadow of his former self. Sholes has changed his game and is STILL about to control and dictate a match.
One thing Gerrard & Lampard havent done is ajusted their game like Scholes. Due to this I think the longevity of there career will not be like Scholes.
Scholes cant tackle and thats it. Every other aspect of him game IMO is.was better than Gerrard.
Both in there prime, Scholes.
Now, Scholes.
Gerrard look a shadow of his former self. Sholes has changed his game and is STILL about to control and dictate a match.
One thing Gerrard & Lampard havent done is ajusted their game like Scholes. Due to this I think the longevity of there career will not be like Scholes.
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