ATP 1000 Miami 2012 Final: Djokovic - Murray
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ATP 1000 Miami 2012 Final: Djokovic - Murray
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Let the show commence and The Best win !
Let the show commence and The Best win !
noleisthebest- Posts : 3755
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Novak is really getting into Murray's second serve
socal1976- Posts : 14212
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I cant tell one rally from another.
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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There it is double break, Murray really being bossed around
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Novak walk over
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My Mum would get into that second serve, it's barely WTA standard.socal1976 wrote:Novak is really getting into Murray's second serve
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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Murray will start to play on the front foot half way through the 2nd set, by then it will be too late
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Novak is doing a great job of picking out spots to get to net and finish off the point
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Murray's groundstrokes not reliable enough and he can't do any damage.
droogle- Posts : 349
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Whatever BB, did you see that backhand winner off the first ball by Novak and an Ace on set point.
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Murray not even varying is game like he used to, no slices, dropshots or volley so far, did he hit a winner at all in this 1st set??
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oh dear well, here's hoping the 2nd set is more even... not likely but there's always hope
reckoner- Posts : 2652
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Tenez wrote:Djoko's shots have a much better depth. Murray's are way too spiny and short.
2 possible reasons for that:
1 - Murray is tensed and nervous, lack of confidence.
2 - He is simply not as talented as Djoko.
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That was my kind of set
noleisthebest- Posts : 3755
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We're celebrating an ace?socal1976 wrote:Whatever BB, did you see that backhand winner off the first ball by Novak and an Ace on set point.
C'mon, this is very standard fare.
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Jeremy_Kyle wrote:Murray not even varying is game like he used to, no slices, dropshots or volley so far, did he hit a winner at all in this 1st set??
Djoko is too quick for that. Unless Murray starts to play deeper and faster it would be suicidal to play touch shots.
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I really hope something can happen and Murray start competing in this set. So far Dokovic is not even sweating is shirt.....
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Oddly Novak won 50 percent of the points on Andy's second and is crushing murray's first delivery losing just 43 percent of points on Andy's first. Returning the first serve better that is odd
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Tenez wrote:Jeremy_Kyle wrote:Murray not even varying is game like he used to, no slices, dropshots or volley so far, did he hit a winner at all in this 1st set??
Djoko is too quick for that. Unless Murray starts to play deeper and faster it would be suicidal to play touch shots.
It can at least unsettle his opponenent a bit, also slicing well on this surface can help much imo
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Andy loses a break early and it could be all she wrote
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And winning more points percentage on his own 2nd serve than first.socal1976 wrote:Oddly Novak won 50 percent of the points on Andy's second and is crushing murray's first delivery losing just 43 percent of points on Andy's first. Returning the first serve better that is odd
Tells you this is all about rallying, and a part of that being the lack of threat from the other side.
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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OMG he came into the net and won a point!
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Anyone know if their is a stream, motherin law is doing her nut as she can only listen.
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Big hold for Andy
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At least it's not gonna be bagel
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there's always that...Jeremy_Kyle wrote:At least it's not gonna be bagel
reckoner- Posts : 2652
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Don't lose focus Novak cmon
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Ulsterexile wrote:Anyone know if their is a stream, motherin law is doing her nut as she can only listen.
livescorehunter is the one im watching now its good
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A fiver says Lendl's going to get on court and beat some sense into him with his golf club
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Lendl must be wondering what he's supposed to do; he excelled in powerful deep groundstrokes from a titanic forehand and a SHBH, and Murray......... doesn't.
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Remember when Courier was coaching Roddick, it was similarly hopeless.
reckoner- Posts : 2652
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I cannot stand this Yank commentator....
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Yes.reckoner wrote:Remember when Courier was coaching Roddick, it was similarly hopeless.
I don't really know what Ivan can bring to this. Andy is a counterpuncher and its tough playing a retriever par excellence on a low court.
He just has to dig in, that's his game.
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bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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second set dip for Djoker , right on cue... next service game might be interesting.
reckoner- Posts : 2652
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A perfect example of an UE by Djoko cretaed by not enough time recuperation between points.
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bogbrush wrote:Yes.reckoner wrote:Remember when Courier was coaching Roddick, it was similarly hopeless.
I don't really know what Ivan can bring to this. Andy is a counterpuncher and its tough playing a retriever par excellence on a low court.
didn't seem to be a problem in 2009
noleisthebest- Posts : 3755
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Djokovic wasn't so resilient back then.noleisthebest wrote:bogbrush wrote:Yes.reckoner wrote:Remember when Courier was coaching Roddick, it was similarly hopeless.
I don't really know what Ivan can bring to this. Andy is a counterpuncher and its tough playing a retriever par excellence on a low court.
didn't seem to be a problem in 2009
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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Courier coaching Roddick? When was that?
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Took the words from my mouth!Tenez wrote:A perfect example of an UE by Djoko cretaed by not enough time recuperation between points.
Mrs Bogbrush is starting to understand this now too. She mentioned it.
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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I was talking about that slice Muzza!
Look like it's not going to be double bread sticks either
Look like it's not going to be double bread sticks either
Jeremy_Kyle- Posts : 1536
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Murray clinging on here.
I'm amazed by his gameplan. Djokovic looked tired in that game, but then he looked dead about 3 times in the AO semi... He's like a spider in the bath, playing dead. NEVER assume he's out of energy!
The way it's going, Murray is merely delaying the inevitable.
I'm amazed by his gameplan. Djokovic looked tired in that game, but then he looked dead about 3 times in the AO semi... He's like a spider in the bath, playing dead. NEVER assume he's out of energy!
The way it's going, Murray is merely delaying the inevitable.
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He was disguised as Jimmy ConnorsTenez wrote:Courier coaching Roddick? When was that?
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Sorry meant COnnors!
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Well so much for the second set dip.
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bogbrush wrote:Took the words from my mouth!Tenez wrote:A perfect example of an UE by Djoko cretaed by not enough time recuperation between points.
Mrs Bogbrush is starting to understand this now too. She mentioned it.
and how does Mrs Bogbrush explain all Murray's UEs?
noleisthebest- Posts : 3755
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Best in the world at changing direction on the ball Novak going up; the line every shot
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She knows he has unsound technique in cruial areas.noleisthebest wrote:bogbrush wrote:Took the words from my mouth!Tenez wrote:A perfect example of an UE by Djoko cretaed by not enough time recuperation between points.
Mrs Bogbrush is starting to understand this now too. She mentioned it.
and how does Mrs Bogbrush explain all Murray's UEs?
bogbrush- Posts : 11169
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It looks disgustingly hot out there. Feel sorry for the players.
noleisthebest- Posts : 3755
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I'd explain them as very bad day at the office and move on. Murray has played naff today yet we have the usual 'experts' on here trying to display it as a norm or something. Full credit to Novak who is doing the business so far.
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