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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:39 pm

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:04 am

Palmer was Int class. Big Palmer fan (tried ages to get him of you) But he's 33 and looking past it tbh. Wasps move final throw of dice as dire in T14 and lost it at Int.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:09 am

He has had good wc when on and was great vs Ireland


After front row England have no guaranteed starters.

Bloke next to me asked a great question today he said who will be glos captain next year.

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Have 2 options wood or Hamilton. There are zero options after that which shows we lack leaders and why we are bad

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:09 am

The following who are all eligible to be in next seasons academy are avialable. I am looking for as player swaps an academy aged tighthead, lock and blindside, or will do them for very small amounts of cash (£1-2 million)

SH Luke Baldwin (15/09/1990)
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WG Marcus Watson (27/06/1991)
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:22 am

Bath deny Donald going back to NZ:

http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/story-15818180-detail/story.html

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:31 am

Would not surprise me. He needs a preseason and to get confidence back. He was shocking last week

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:00 pm

personally don't think Parling, Botha or Robson are international class, couldnt see any getting into the Welsh, Scottish, French or Irish starting lineups.

they should concentrate on finding the best partner for Courtney Lawes, you can build you whole defence around him and the hits he puts in definitely makes flyhalfs worry - the closest we will get to having a modern day enforcer!

think the trouble with English rugby is that after 2003 WC we thought that we would win games by being the biggest, strongest etc, so put all emphasis on being big and less emphasis on skills and basics - this has only changed in the last few years.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:03 pm

anyone watch Cockerill's interview on ESPN yesterday? Found it really interesting when he said that Ford already had a better kicking game than Flood!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:15 pm

Ford's future problem is his size.

There was a poll on main boards about Lions locks for next tour. Welsh and Irish generally rate Parling as our best lock. He would walk in Welsh team.

https://www.606v2.com/t26916-lock-choices-of-the-home-nations

1. Richie Gray
2. POC
3. Lawes
4. Parling/Evans

Seems some think Parling is Int class. I'd personally go for a 4 of Lawes, Parling, Garvey, Botha for SA tour.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:25 pm

On that poll Parling is about 7th choice and with 50% less votes and behind Ian Evans and level with donnacha Ryan which about says his level for
Me.

To have a 2nd row with zero carrying ability is not the way forward. He had an ok 6 nations and did not let us down but long term he is not the solution.

Second row is our weakest position along with our
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:30 pm

He isn't 7th he's 4th, are you reading the right bit?

Parling has 21 votes, Evans 20 & Ryan 19.

Parling outstanding lineout lock and best we have. Doing something right if people generally think he'd make Lions.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:38 pm

wouldnt have parling ahead of bradley davies (when on form) or wyn jones. he had a good 6nations, like Botha did but have a feeling that they will both struggle when they come up against the Boks this summer.

there's no concern at all about Ford's size - he has a rugby league background, very good tackler, mike ford has taught him how to defend and when you play international u18 rugby from the age of 15 and u20 from the age of 16/17 you've got no worries about tackling bigger people.

hopefully he'll get England the JWC this year!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:40 pm

Going forward his size could hold him back I think, bright prospect.

Parling different to Davies. Davies a carrier, Parling a lineout specialist and work horse.

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Post by Driver Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:40 pm

My 4 Lions locks would be Paul O'Connell , Richie Grey , Bradley Davies and Luke Charteris.


Incidently i'm changing my game plan next year to a power based game similer to Wales so i'm after players who fit that mold.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:42 pm

Funny you'd pick 2 Welsh locks who can't get in Welsh side Driver lol

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Post by Driver Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:45 pm

Davies has been banned lately and Charteris injured Pooly
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:49 pm

Aye they can't get in the side! Lol

Only POC & Gray nailed on I think. Pretty wide open like the backrow.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:49 pm

what do people think about getting Alex King in the England setup?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:51 pm

Unsure, it'll only be temp if he does. Think they're lining up Smith

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Post by Driver Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:52 pm

dammit_chris wrote:what do people think about getting Alex King in the England setup?


He's masterminded Clermount's attack this season and it's been pretty impressive.
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Post by Driver Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:56 pm

My giant backline for next season coming along nicely

9.Jimmy Cowen
10.Ronan O'Gara/tba
11.Tim Visser
12.James Downey
13.Mike Tindall/TBA
14.Matt Smith
15.Lee Byrne
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:58 pm

If Wayne Smith could get England's backs playing like the Chiefs did against the Cheetahs yesterday then we would be awesome. Sadly I am not convinced that he will be able to get Farrell - Barritt - Tuilagi playing like Cruden - Sonny Bill - Kahui.

Their offloading game was ridiculous yesterday.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:03 pm

that's what I thought Driver - he definitely has an eye for attack - apparently the RFU are looking at Wayne Smith, Alex King, Will Greenwood and Brian Ashton for attack position. Guess they have to find someone who fits in with Lancaster and Rowntree.

Driver - I would look to try and bring in a top class winger to replace Matt Smith, or get someone a bit more creative at 13 as with big backs you need someone who can put them through the gaps etc and a lot of your attacks when it isnt bucketing down with rain might die with Tindall...

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:36 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He isn't 7th he's 4th, are you reading the right bit?

Parling has 21 votes, Evans 20 & Ryan 19.

Parling outstanding lineout lock and best we have. Doing something right if people generally think he'd make Lions.

When I checked he was behind Evans and level with Charteris and Ryan. Obviously it's a poll so is subject to change!!!

Heard great things about king SCW thinks he is a great coach

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:39 pm

It must have changed since I read it this morning then as Parling was 4th when I posted link.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:56 pm

They were all hovering around 7-8%

Going to be interesting to see if the rfU back lancasters choice of coaches or force people on
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:00 pm

It has the vote numbers on right, I'm guessing that's were the parling 7th thing came from as you automatically put him behind other players on 7/8%.

Interestingly no Palmer in list, little surprised he didn't make posters cut above some of other the locks on there.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:06 pm

He was on 7% and Evans 8% I am no Parling fan but even I think he is better than Evans who is toss in my opinion.

I like Bradley Davies as a player

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:11 pm

He was on 21 votes at 8% and 4th, I checked before posting. No dramas anyway.

Our lineout was shambles before Parling came in, deserves praise for that even if not a fan.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:14 pm

Sale to unveil Redpath anytime soon apparently

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:17 pm

Yes been doing rounds. They are welcome to him. He has lost the team at Gloucester. Glos have sale next week so think they will wait until after

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:20 pm

He is a smart lineout operator and is a work horse. Just lacks class. Deserves to be in squad we have a paucity of options unfortunately.

South Africa tour will let us all know more

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:21 pm

Gold to Gloucester?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:28 pm

This weeks match thread is up.
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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:05 pm

I would love gold to glos apparently bath is more likely

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:24 pm

Have the following available for cash or small deals:

PR Oliver Tomaszczyk (TH)(England)
PR Grant Shiells (LH) (England)
CE Dan Hipkiss (England)
WG Charlie Amesbury (England)
FB Tom Arscott (England)
BR Will Welch (OS/BS) (England)
FB Tom Catterick (England)

Also have these availble for deals:

CE/FB Jared Payne (New Zealand)
N8 Duane Vermeulen (South Africa)
LK Flip van der Merwe (South Africa)
PR Rodrigo Roncero (LH) (Argentina)
PR Craig Mitchell (TH) (Wales)
CE Brad Barritt (England)
WG Sean Maitland (New Zealand)
FL Heinrich Brussow (South Aftica)
LK Juandre Kruger (South Aftica)
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PR Boris Stankovich (England)
LK Ed Slater (England)

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:50 pm

I'd rather have no locks than Charteris.

Gray, POC, Davies and Ryan for me, in that order.

Lawes gets in with a big season next year.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:30 pm

Think you could be right there steve with lawes easily in if fit and playing well

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Post by stnick88 Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:36 pm

Listening to offers on most players. Notably butch James, bastereaud, tiesi, basson, jp pieterson, kirchner, mumm, Kennedy, poux

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:46 pm

Exeter to finish 4th?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:49 pm

Would be a shock if they did. They are virtually guaranteed a HC spot though.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:59 pm

I think they will beat Saints next week and if they deny them the LBP as well then that will be 4th secured.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:16 pm

Hope they do it

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:20 pm

Me too mate. Went to watch their A side against Quins at The Stoop a few weeks back with 2 Chiefs fans and 2 other neutrals. There was one other Chiefs fan there as well, and between the 6 of us we made more noise than the 500 odd Quins fans. Was great craic.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:45 pm

anyone see this - olly barkley taking out the pitch invader, he can tackle, who knew!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGYGTbCzM0s

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:48 pm

I'll have to check that out, didn't show it on Friday. Would have been better than game

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:07 pm

i loved Andy Powell's reaction during the game when it happened - just started laughing his head off.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:43 am

Just watching highlights, Tigers look well tasty.

Benjamin's try Worcester was a bit freaky

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:45 am

Was jammy as anything, he couldn't do that again if he tried
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:48 am

Tommy Hayes has had a great season.

I think I have Benjamin don't I??? He def played for that lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:55 am

Awful attempt at tackle from Jonny May for Hogg try. Great work Gopperth (passing!!!)

Can't believe Vickers awful darts actually got us win!

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