Re: Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

by Diggers Tue 24 Apr 2012, 9:32 am

First topic message reminder :

I don't mind Paul Walsh at all, there are at least another 5 on the Sky Soccer Saturday that are way worse. Thompson is annoying , Nicolas just as bad, Merson is funny in an are you simple kind of way. George Best used to be worst of the lot.
I always found Graham Taylor's commentary annoying , that was his voice more than anything though.
In athletics Colin Jackson is very poor as is Denise Lewis.

by **navyblueshorts** Thu 03 May 2012, 1:41 pm

super_realist wrote:Ivanisevic v Rafters final

by Doon the Water Thu 03 May 2012, 2:03 pm

It just has to be Wembley 1967, when we toyed with the World Champions.
Jim Baxters keepy-uppy in the middle of the park...magic.

Close second...Dual in the Sun

Third..........Seve at Stan Drews

by SpacemanSpiff Thu 03 May 2012, 2:09 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

Are yo from Argentina?

Mac, are you from Manchester?

by Diggers Thu 03 May 2012, 2:12 pm

The Coe v Ovett battles at Moscow for me. Plus Bolt and Johnsons smashing the 200 records.
Best football match I've seen live was England v Holand in Euro 96, smashed them.
Leonard beating Hearns in there first fight, live I saw Benn beat McClellan which was an amazing fight but ended badly.
Rugby, definitely 2003 final.
Cricket winning the Ashes in 2005.
Tennis surely Borg v Supermac, anyone of them.

by Diggers Thu 03 May 2012, 2:14 pm

..oops and golf wise Lyle winning the Masters or Faldo humbling Norman at Augusta.

by kwinigolfer Thu 03 May 2012, 2:18 pm

If watching on TV is included, it would have to be Barbarians vs All Blacks in 1973 and the Greatest Try.

by Diggers Thu 03 May 2012, 2:24 pm

Good year 1973 Kwini, best ever save(s) by a keeper as well.... Whistle

by kwinigolfer Thu 03 May 2012, 2:35 pm

Travesty he never played for England Digs.
First time I ever saw Sunderland Charlie Hurley was dominating the defence!

by Lairdy Thu 03 May 2012, 2:54 pm

Fiorentina Rangers penalty shout out Uefa Cup semi final second leg. We had absolutely no right to win that tie but yet there we were. The final was such a let down in so many ways...

McFadden's goal vs France in the 2008 Euro Champs qualifier.

Zidane's volley against Leverkusen at Hampden. Footballing genius.

by **navyblueshorts** Thu 03 May 2012, 3:54 pm

Diggers wrote:...live I saw Benn beat McClellan which was an amazing fight but ended badly....

You were at that fight?? I watched it on the box (quite like boxing) and it came over as an incredible battle. Bad outcome as you say but still pretty clear in my mind.

by Doon the Water Thu 03 May 2012, 7:00 pm

One of my neighbours celebrated his 90th birthday today.

He was the Commander of the midget submarine group based at Rothsey during WW2.
These guys did extrememy dangerous missions in tiny submarines that looked like torpedoes.
Their survival rate was 30% per mission and I think John went on six missions.
Amazing bravery and fantastic to see him survive this to celebrate his birthday at a garden party on such a lovely day

by super_realist Thu 03 May 2012, 7:11 pm

Doon, I think they were called X-craft. A lot of guys got VC's for missions in them

by Diggers Thu 03 May 2012, 7:50 pm

navyblueshorts wrote:
Diggers wrote:...live I saw Benn beat McClellan which was an amazing fight but ended badly....
You were at that fight?? I watched it on the box (quite like boxing) and it came over as an incredible battle. Bad outcome as you say but still pretty clear in my mind.

It was carnage , utter war. Kicked off in the crowd as well, the atmosphere was electric. I watch a lot of fights and I've never seen anything that brutal. Clearly watching a guy getting battered till he ended up in a coma isn't something to be proud of, then again both guys loved to fight and wanted to be there. You wouldn't wish what happened to McClelland on anyone but by all accounts he was a deeply unpleasant man.

by McLaren Thu 03 May 2012, 9:17 pm

Navy

I just thought because you chose an Argentinean moment that you might be from Argentina. And no I dont read those papers.

by super_realist Thu 03 May 2012, 10:33 pm

Mac only reads the Socialist Worker and The Guardian.

by **navyblueshorts** Fri 04 May 2012, 12:11 am

No, I'm Bristolian by birth. Bit confused really. I should automatically pick some English bit of sport because I'm English? I just thought Maxi's goal in that match was ridiculously good - lovely crossfield ball, perfect chest trap and sublime volley into the top corner from the angle of the 18 yard box. What's not to like?

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 1:27 am

Nothing not to like about his goal, not sure how I have yet again managed to offend your somewhat fragile state of being. It seems rare you dont have issues with the comments I make. Your name is navyblueshorts - like Argentina - and you pick a goal they scored, is it any wonder I think you might be Argentine? Again not sure why that notion is offensive to you?

In the words of a teenage girl "get over yourself".

Super

For the millionth time I dont read the guardian regularly and when I do I just look at the recipe section.

by lorus59 Fri 04 May 2012, 4:32 am

Best moment in sport was Jonah Lomu walking over Mike Catt in the 1995 Rugby World Cup. Before the game England said they would prevent him getting the ball. It didn't quite work out as planned.

by **navyblueshorts** Fri 04 May 2012, 9:51 am

Mac. You do post a lot of rubbish don't you? I don't have any of myself to "get over" - significant of you to use, as you freely admit, the words of a teenage girl.
The navyblueshorts ID is a rugby-related moniker (I'm sure I've explained this before), and when have I ever given the impression that I follow football as a real fan? TBH, it's no wonder to me that you think I'm Argentine; 2+2=5 and all that.

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 9:56 am

Mac isn't a real football fan either, just another glory hunter

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 1:08 pm

Navy

At least I try and offer something of interest unlike you who seems to post nothing other than failed attempts to belittle other posters.

Super

In the odd rules of super realists own mind what makes me a glory hunter and not a real football fan? Although would anyone really want to be a "real" football fan?

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 1:16 pm

What makes you a glory hunter Mack
Eh 'supporting' Man United for a start despite never going to games and never explaining even tenuous links to the club.

Worshipping Woods for another.

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 1:38 pm

Super

So who would you say I could support and be classed as a real fan?

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:05 pm

To be a real fan you probably need an actual link to the team or go to the matches.

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 2:10 pm

So you are saying if I were born next to a teams stadium and supported them for no other reason than that, I would be a more "real" fan than making a logical and informed choice of who to support?

Besides I have said many times before I have no idea why I started supporting man utd but I do know there are pictures of me in their strip celebrating my 5/6th birthday. Around 1992. So I guess someone in the family bought me the strip and maybe I latched onto that.

PS

You did not propose a team I could become a real fan off?

by Diggers Fri 04 May 2012, 2:12 pm

Strewth I stopped accusing people of not being real football fans when I was 15. Who gives a monkeys why someone chooses to follow a particular team, the matches are mainly on TV now, there is no requirement to go to every game or indeed any game to be a fan. The only requirement is that you gain enjoyment out of them winning.

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 2:17 pm

Diggers

Thanks for being the voice of reason yet again.

Does anyone else think the Falkland islanders need to get a sense of humour, I for one cant wait for Navy's (keep your hair on its only a joke) people to take them back?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17948710

by mystiroakey Fri 04 May 2012, 2:22 pm

yep if you wanna be a plastic fan then go for it. no dramas at all, however dont be offeneded when you get ribbed for it. thats just as silly as going over the top saying 'you have to support your local team blah blah'

by Diggers Fri 04 May 2012, 2:26 pm

mystiroakey wrote:yep if you wanna be a plastic fan then go for it. no dramas at all, however dont be offeneded when you get ribbed for it. thats just as silly as going over the top saying 'you have to support your local team blah blah'

To be honest so called real fans are often complete sad cases, go to every single game missing weddings and spending a fortune they cant afford, getting tattoos of their clubs, only wearing a footie shirt when out socially and worst of all completely one eyed when it comes to talking about football.

by mystiroakey Fri 04 May 2012, 2:30 pm

well thats a good point- i have allways played golf on a staurday over watching a footy game, never real got the whole tribal aspect of supporting a club

I am a follower of crystal palace- in the loosest posible way. Sadly i would rather watch a big CL game on the telly than them

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:35 pm

Mac, Are you demonstrating your ignorance again?

The Argies can't take The Falklands back, because they've never owned them in the first place.
They are/were the aggressors. It's a British sovereign territory and is outwith the marine coastal boundary of Argentina.

It would be like the British invading the Faroes (which are closer to the UK, than the Falklands are to Argentina) on account of their location, despite having never owned them and them already belonging to another country, e.g Denmark in this case.

As for who you support, it makes no sense for you to claim to be a Man U fan, I think the best you can say is that you like to watch them and you look out for their results, but you haven't stated any links to the club or that you go and watch them, so vis a vis, it's easy to conclude that you support them because you are a glory hunter or they are the biggest most successful team.

If you've got no link to a team, why not support West Brom, Villa etc?

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 04 May 2012, 2:36 pm

To be a real fan you probably need an actual link to the team or go to the matches.

Pathetic. Even IF they buy merchandise from their chosen team/individual player?

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:38 pm

buying merchandise is certainly pathetic. There is nothing sadder than a grown man in a football shirt.

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 04 May 2012, 2:40 pm

buying merchandise is certainly pathetic. There is nothing sadder than a grown man in a football shirt.

Didn't know you were a member of the Style Police, my sincere apologies.

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:42 pm

Come on Do you not cringe seeing an adult in a football strip walking down the street?

by Josiah Maiestas Fri 04 May 2012, 2:45 pm

super_realist wrote:Come on Do you not cringe seeing an adult in a football strip walking down the street?

If it was freezing cold and they had nothing over the shirt, I might roll my eyes. Otherwise, wouldn't bother me.

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 2:47 pm

Well then super it will make your day to know I own a man utd strip.

What sort of link are you looking for? Maybe that I am the long lost illegitimate grandson of matt busby or something?

I have been to games, although I admit not for a few years as I cant afford it. When I was younger my parents would often get me a ticket.

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:47 pm

I once saw an entire family in Turkey kitted out in the full shirts, shorts and socks of their team once. Most pathetic thing I've ever seen. Why are people so insecure they need to advertise their support.

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:48 pm

Ha ha, and do you wear it for anything other than playing football in?

by mystiroakey Fri 04 May 2012, 2:49 pm

so you dont have a tartin hat with ginger wig then?

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 2:50 pm

No, I don't consider myself Scottish Oakey.

by mystiroakey Fri 04 May 2012, 2:58 pm

sorry lol

by lorus59 Fri 04 May 2012, 4:08 pm

I think these days people look for certain teams to lose rather than one to win.

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 4:13 pm

What I mean by the whole "no connection" thing is how can you have an emotional attachment to a team that you decide to start supporting without any prior link or attachment too.

How can a win or a defeat mean anything if you haven't invested any time in the team and if you just start supporting it for some undefined reason.

by Doon the Water Fri 04 May 2012, 4:18 pm

I really do think adults wearing football tops are sad creatures.

The majority of the blue/green variety I see around Glasgow all seem to be wearing size XXXL which is amazingly sad.

by super_realist Fri 04 May 2012, 4:23 pm

Saddest most pathetic city outside of Liverpool doon

by **navyblueshorts** Fri 04 May 2012, 5:29 pm

McLaren wrote:Navy

At least I try and offer something of interest unlike you who seems to post nothing other than failed attempts to belittle other posters.

Oh I don't know. I thought I did it fairly well. You do often offer things of interest; I'd never say you don't. You still talk sheiss at other times though.

McLaren wrote:...Does anyone else think the Falkland islanders need to get a sense of humour, I for one cant wait for Navy's (keep your hair on its only a joke) people to take them back?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-17948710

OK, I'll bite. Firstly, go look up the word 'hypocrite' when you get the chance...and 'joke'. Secondly, what are you on? Given our previous 'discussion' - are you Argentinian? Why the Hell should Falkland islanders (or we) need to get a sense of humour over the posturing of that idiot administration in Argentina? Sorry, whatever claim they might have had was made laughable by their moronic actions over the repatriation of YPF and, basically, the outright theft of the lion's share of Repsol's ownership.

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 5:46 pm

Navy I know little of Argentinian politics other than some of the economic policy behind the 199? crash and the currency board they set up. I actually thought Repsol was spanish as it is on some spanish motor racing drivers cars.

by McLaren Fri 04 May 2012, 7:03 pm

Super

I see your party (UKIP) have done rather well in the council elections.

by super_realist Sat 05 May 2012, 8:31 am

Mac, I would never vote ukip, and is that a thinly veiled baroness warsi statement?

Also you never answered the falklands question I posed. How can they take them back when they never owned them in the first place?
Relative proximity isn't a condition for ownership, otherwise I might claim your treasured book on Doak as my property because you live near, fortunately it doesn't work like that.

They have no claims or justification at all on the islands.

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