Clydesdale Bank 40 Discussion Thread

[Shelsey93]

First topic message reminder :

The CB40 can be a damp squid of a competition. The format is wrong (debatably), the picture of a final on a damp September day in front of a half-full crowd is in my head, and there are too many dead games, leading to counties fielding virtual 2nd XIs with regularity.

But that is what we have, and the tournament starts tomorrow with a repeat of Surrey v Somerset.

The three groups were drawn as follows:

A: Netherlands, Leicestershire Foxes, Worcestershire Royals, Lancashire Lightning, Middlesex Panthers, Essex Eagles, Gloucestershire Gladiators
B: Scottish Saltires, Durham Dynamos, Hampshire Royals, Surrey, Welsh Dragons, Somerset, Nottinghamshire Outlaws
C: Unicorns, Derbyshire Falcons, Yorkshire, Kent Spitfires, Warwickshire Bears, Sussex Sharks, Northamptonshire Steelbacks

Matches to be played over the Bank Holiday weekend are:

Friday 4th May

Surrey v Somerset @ The Oval - Live on Sky Sports 4, 3.00; Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17909365 (BBC London/ BBC Bristol)

Surrey 295-6 (Hamilton-Brown 101, Davies 72, Meschede 2-57) Somerset 190 (Compton 53, Meaker 3-24)

Surrey won by 105 runs

Sunday 6th May

Scottish Saltires v Surrey @ The Grange - Commentary link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910138 (BBC London)

Surrey 187-7 (Rudolph 69, Haq 2-27) Scot 118-6 (Berrington 43*, Spriegel 2-16)

Surrey won by 18 runs (D/L)

Gloucestershire Gladiators v Netherlands @ Bristol - Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910365 (BBC Bristol)

Neth 239-6 (Myburgh 77, Young 2-31) Gloucs 238-8 (Howell 72*, Seelaar 4-42)

Netherlands won by 1 run

Lancashire Lightning v Leicestershire Foxes @ Old Trafford - Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910367 (BBC Lancashire)

Lancs 296-3 (Croft 82, Prince 79, Moore 74, Cobb 1-37) Leics 291-7 (Cobb 137, Boyce 64, Kerrigan 3-44)

Lancashire Lightning won by 5 runs

Unicorns v Derbyshire Falcons @ Wormsley

Derbys 287-3 (Guptill 125, Durston 120*, Querl 2-58) Unicorns 158-9 (Reece 36, Hughes 5-29)

Derbyshire Falcons won by 129 runs

Warwickshire Bears v Northamptonshire Steelbacks @ Edgbaston - Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910141 (BBC Coventry and Warwickshire/ BBC WM)

Northants 209-7 (Hall 52*, Barker 3-41) Warks 212-4 (Bell 82*, Clarke 54*, de Lange 2-31)

Warwickshire Bears won by 6 wickets

Yorkshire v Kent Spitfires @ Headingley - Live on Sky Sports 2, 1.30; Commentary link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910369 (BBC Leeds/ BBC Kent)

Yorks 175-9 (Root 49, Coles 6-32) Kent 176-6 (Stevens 59, Rafiq 3-22)

Kent Spitfires won by 2 wickets

Monday 7th May

Leicestershire Foxes v Essex Eagles @ Grace Road - Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910698 (BBC Leicester/ BBC Essex)

Match abandoned without a ball bowled

Middlesex Panthers v Gloucestershire Gladiators @ Lord's - Live on Sky Sports 2, 1.30; Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910932 (BBC London/ BBC Bristol)

Middx 157-8 (Simpson 29, Young 3-26) Gloucs 161-5 (Howell 45*, Rayner 2-29)

Gloucestershire Gladiators won by 5 wickets

Hampshire Royals v Welsh Dragons @ Rose Bowl - Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910694 (BBC Solent)

WD 173-7 (Walters 68, Ali 3-44) Hants 151-2 (Vince 83, Carberry 60, A. Jones 1-4)

Hampshire Royals won by 48 runs (D/L)

Scottish Saltires v Nottinghamshire Outlaws @ The Grange

Notts 219-7 (Read 59, Haq 2-34) Scot 108-0 (Macleod 58*)

Scottish Saltires won by 18 runs (D/L)

Northamptonshire Steelbacks v Unicorns @ Wantage Road

Unicorns 79-3 (Reece 27*, de Lange 2-19) Northants 16-1 (Coetzer 10*, Wheeldon 1-9)

No Result

Worcestershire Royals v Netherlands @ Kidderminster - Commentary link http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/17910696

Worcs 172-4 (Solanki 63, Bukhari 3-29) Neth 139-1 (Myburgh 74*, Borgas 55*, Shantry 1-23)

Netherlands won by 9 wickets (D/L)

[chichestersurryfan]

good win for Surrey today! although as others have said, not as comfortable as against Somerset!... Good day alround for me as I managed to get down to Bognor and see the Rocks beat Dulwich Hamlet 1-0 in the Rymans South Play off final! - Rymans Premier league here we come!
It was absolutely freezing down at Bognor... I had 3 layers on, hat gloves the lot... I must say... the thought of watching cricket in this weather does not appeal... so well done to all those hardy souls in Edingburgh today!

[jimbobgooner]

[quote="chichestersurryfan"]good win for Surrey today! although as others have said, not as comfortable as against Somerset!... Good day alround for me as I managed to get down to Bognor and see the Rocks beat Dulwich Hamlet 1-0 in the Rymans South Play off final! - Rymans Premier league here we come!

it was a case of dulwich paying the penalty

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Most of the matches in today's round face a delayed start. Notts/Scotland the only one to start on time....

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Only two Group B matches in progress atm. Notts not having things all their own way against Scotland with the score at 105 for 4 after 23 overs. Glam only just started against Hants in a reduced overs match.

[guildfordbat]

Scotland going pretty well. 80-0 off 16 chasing 220.

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Scots 94 - 0. But need to watch the run rate which has crept up to 6.

[guildfordbat]

Scots 94 - 0. But need to watch the run rate which has crept up to 6.

Spot on, Corporal.

I fear a middle order collapse for the Jocks as they look to accelerate. Mind you, it'll be a good result for Surrey if Notts lose this match ....

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Match delayed by rain. D/L will be interesting if that is the end of play....

[packofwolves]

Worcs managed a total of 172-4 in 27 overs against the Dutch at Kidderminster. Runs from Solanki (60), Cameron (38) and Mitchell (31n.o.).

The Dutch are now 7-1 off 3 overs, Jack Shantry with the wicket.

[guildfordbat]

Match delayed by rain. D/L will be interesting if that is the end of play....

With no wickets down, I would expect Scotland to be ahead on D/L.

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Meanwhile rain delays play in the Netherlands/Worcs game.

Gloucs starting briskly in reply to Middlesex. A Gloucs win could provide some small compensation to Chris from Stroud for the selection of Batty....

[guildfordbat]

Scotland's win over Notts on D/L confirmed.

Meanwhile, the much maligned Batty sees Gloucs over the line along with Benny Howell who puts in another decent performance.

[Shelsey93]

Very disappointed with Middlesex today.

The batting was poor, though not terrible, but both the bowling and Dexter's captaincy were poor. Corey Collymore, who has never really impressed me, was awful.

Scotland's win over Notts is a bigger surprise than either Dutch win.

[guildfordbat]

Shelsey - what did you think of Benny Howell? A reliable source on the Surrey supporters website was disappointed we didn't pick him up when released by Hants and flags him as one to watch.

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Scotland's win by D/L was well justified, but in my opinion a tad fortunate. They still had a fair way to go to the target and the required run rate had been gradually climbing. Easy to envisage a collapse as they attempted to up the pace....

[Shelsey93]

Shelsey - what did you think of Benny Howell? A reliable source on the Surrey supporters website was disappointed we didn't pick him up when released by Hants and flags him as one to watch.

Shaped up well, and looked very calm. I've seen him make a hundred on TV before and was hugely surprised that Hampshire included a young and talented player in their winter clear-out. Though someone on Cricinfo said that Howell might not have been happy with his lack of Championship opportunities.

I would say that Surrey wouldn't have been the right place for him to go. There is already plenty of competition for places, and I struggle to see how he would get into either the Championship or one-day sides. But at Gloucestershire he is already an integral part of the team. It looks like they've picked up a bargain.

[guildfordbat]

Shelsey - what did you think of Benny Howell? A reliable source on the Surrey supporters website was disappointed we didn't pick him up when released by Hants and flags him as one to watch.

Shaped up well, and looked very calm. I've seen him make a hundred on TV before and was hugely surprised that Hampshire included a young and talented player in their winter clear-out. Though someone on Cricinfo said that Howell might not have been happy with his lack of Championship opportunities.

I would say that Surrey wouldn't have been the right place for him to go. There is already plenty of competition for places, and I struggle to see how he would get into either the Championship or one-day sides. But at Gloucestershire he is already an integral part of the team. It looks like they've picked up a bargain.

Thanks, Shelsey. Not surprised by your supportive view of Benny Howell's batting. I also tend to agree with your final para. Howell wouldn't get in Surrey's Championship or one-day sides currently. Things may well change before long - possible international call ups, injuries and Ramps' retirement. However, from his point of view, he's better off where he is now playing first eleven cricket.

[Mike Selig]

Shelsey - what did you think of Benny Howell?

Born in Bordeaux, France.

[Guest]

Very disappointed with Middlesex today.

The batting was poor, though not terrible, but both the bowling and Dexter's captaincy were poor. Corey Collymore, who has never really impressed me, was awful.

Scotland's win over Notts is a bigger surprise than either Dutch win.

IMO collymore is more of a f/c bowler than a one day bowler to be honest.

[Carrotdude]

Surrey have made 221/7 from their 40 overs against Durham which is definitely below par at the Oval but is a good fightback after losing the top 3 cheaply. Maynard scored a composed 77 off 94 and Ansari got his best ever 60* from 54 balls to underline just how much talent he has.

[jimbohammers]

Carberry just got a wicket

[guildfordbat]

A few wobbles along the way for Surrey but a very comfortable victory in the end.

Throughout there seemed someone able to step in and step up. Maynard and Ansari with the bat. Then Spriegel with the ball, taking two two quick wickets as Durham threatened an early charge. Thereafter, a fine team bowling and fielding performance.

Still need to keep our feet on the ground but things looking good again in CB40.

[Guest]

Carberry just got a wicket

why was he even bowling?!

[jimbohammers]

Haha ui dont know CF, but it worked!

Easy win for Hants, 2 wins in 2 now.

Guildford, should be a good game when we meet

[Shelsey93]

Unicorns have pulled a surprise over Kent. Timely considering they need to justify their position in the competition ahead of a likely re-structure next year.

[Guest]

essex lost to lancashire

[Shelsey93]

essex lost to lancashire

I'm not sure Essex have rejuvenated their squad very well for one-day cricket. The absence of Shah, Bopara and ten Doeschate hurts, but I see nothing to excite me in the line-up fielded today.

[Guest]

when shah bopara and RTD are back it will be good...

however im fuming that grayson didnt sign a spinner over the winter, a lot of the county posters on here know that.

[jimbohammers]

Some good games on today

[Guest]

any on TV jimbo?

[guildfordbat]

any on TV jimbo?

I don't think any CB40 is shown when a Test is on.

[Guest]

yh very good point guildford.

[Mat]

Century for Phil Hughes on debut today

[Guest]

clearly no one bowled short at him then!

[jimbohammers]

What a win for Hampshire. 3 in 3 now.

Carbs with a Century, Dimi with brilliant figures of 2-17 off 8 overs. This format could really suit us.

[Mat]

We won! 2 in a row for the mighty pears!

[Guest]

dimi is good with the new ball, just bowling straight, with a bit of movement of the seam does well.

[jimbohammers]

Agreed

[simsini]

Netherlands go top of their group with another win. Incredible performances from the minnows so far this season. I wonder how many would go to Lord's if they get there?

[Guest]

Essex vs netherlands tomorrow..

COME ON ESSEX!!!!!!!!

[Mike Selig]

Not sure the dutch qualify as minnows anymore after their creditable performance last year and the arrivals of Myburgh and Van der Gughten to strengthen their line-up. They now have 4 quality batsmen in Myburgh, Swart, Cooper and Barresi, and Borren and Bukhari who can up the scoring rate. Seelar is a decent SLA and VdG a good seamer. Bukhari is also a decent county trundler.

If they also had Kervezee and RTD (their best 2 batsmen) they'd really be a force to be reckoned with.

Essex currently struggling at 20/3

[Shelsey93]

Not sure the dutch qualify as minnows anymore after their creditable performance last year and the arrivals of Myburgh and Van der Gughten to strengthen their line-up. They now have 4 quality batsmen in Myburgh, Swart, Cooper and Barresi, and Borren and Bukhari who can up the scoring rate. Seelar is a decent SLA and VdG a good seamer. Bukhari is also a decent county trundler.

If they also had Kervezee and RTD (their best 2 batsmen) they'd really be a force to be reckoned with.

Essex currently struggling at 20/3

Also Cameron Borgas, who is an overseas for this tournament. Really it is no surprise to see them winning matches at domestic level. Most of their players have played at World T20s and/or World Cups and not disgraced themselves, and a number of the others have played state cricket in Australia. The merits of playing a team full of Aussie state players are questionable, but Cooper, Borgas, Swart etc. would certainly get into English county sides. As would Stephan Myburgh.

[Carrotdude]

76/7 currently, feeling confident CF?

[Guest]

no

[jimbohammers]

[jimbohammers]

Hants lose to a new team called James Taylor

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Surrey's painful effort against Glam comes to a halt at 173 for 9. Davies batted well earlier on and the Brain held things together later on but all the other batsmen failed to make any impact. Sounds as though wicket is on the slow side.

I missed Surrey's win against Durham while away on patrol. Excellent performance from Anasari.

[guildfordbat]

Surrey's painful effort against Glam comes to a halt at 173 for 9. Davies batted well earlier on and the Brain held things together later on but all the other batsmen failed to make any impact. Sounds as though wicket is on the slow side.

I missed Surrey's win against Durham while away on patrol. Excellent performance from Anasari.

Hi Corporal - yes, looked early on like we were going to get a massive score only for it to largely fall away. Glam seem to be pacing it better - am concerned. Fear we may have gone into this one over confident.

Meanwhile, the conundrum that is Jason Roy continues. Struck a six that Churchy raved about - not only out of the ground but through trees and into the River Taff. ''Probably the biggest six I've ever seen'' - Churchy. ''A terrific shot'' - former Glam legend Don Shepherd. And then? Caught at slip.

Yes, strong performance against Durham. Very comfortable in the end.

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Surrey's new all rounder Briegel strikes - to dismiss North. Glam 40 - 3 and in a spot of trouble.

[Corporalhumblebucket]

Kartik strikes - 42 -4.

Hans Peter Briegel was a talented athlete before turning to football. Looks to be good at cricket as well....

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