England Euro 2012 squad

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England squad for Euro 2012:

Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Rob Green (West Ham), John Ruddy (Norwich)

Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man United), John Terry (Chelsea), Joleon Lescott (Man City), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Ashley Cole (Chelsea), Leighton Baines (Everton)

Midfielders: Theo Walcott (Arsenal), Stewart Downing (Liverpool), Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Gareth Barry (Man City), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), Scott Parker (Tottenham), Ashley Young (Man United), James Milner (Man City)

Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man United), Danny Welbeck (Man United), Andy Carroll (Liverpool), Jermain Defoe (Tottenham)

Standby players: Jack Butland (Birmingham City), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Johnson (Manchester City), Daniel Sturridge (Chelsea).

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/2641675.stm

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Well here's my analysis:

Joe Hart - Great keeper.
Robert Green - Decent backup.
John Ruddy - He's good but probably not international class, should give him 90 minutes in one of the warmup games.

Glen Johnson - Bad call, Richards is streets ahead this season.
Phil Jones - Hopefully first choice RB, at least he can defend.
John Terry - Backwards call, his form is iffy.
Joleon Lescott - Solid season for Man City, good choice.
Gary Cahill - Decent defender, probably wouldn't have got in if it wasn't for Smalling's injury.
Ashley Cole - Best LB in the World.
Leighton Baines - Decent backup.

Theo Walcott - Have doubts over his fitness and form. And ability.
Stewart Downing - Does he blackmail the FA? Would probably struggle to get in the Burkina Faso starting XI.
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - Bold choice. Needs a full game in one of the warmups.
Steven Gerrard - Top-quality midfielder and will lead by example.
Gareth Barry - Probably backup to Scotty P.
Frank Lampard - Will be decent off the bench.
Scott Parker - The glue that will hold us together, seize the moment Scotty!
Ashley Young - Probably first choice on the left and will do well.
James Milner - Like Lampard, will give a good impact off the bench.

Wayne Rooney - All of England's hopes rest on you my son.
Danny Welbeck - Will link-up well with Wazza and will probably lead the front-line for the first two.
Andy Carroll - Baffling choice. Sturridge, Crouch and Holt ahead of him at the moment.
Jermain Defoe - Proven at international level, always does good coming off the bench.

Feel very sorry for Crouch, what more does he have to do to get in the England side regularly?

owen10ozzy wrote:Duty - Good run down their...but what if Johnson, Lampard, Barry, Milner are there for starting positions?

I just cant imagine any of those being taken to sit and watch. Like few have mentioned think they are there for a last hurrah, one which we neither want..nor do they deserve.

Lampard will start..and in doing so will upset the whole balance of the team and will destroy any impact Gerrard could have as he will get stuck out wide again!!

I hope im wrong and Walcott & Young start out wide with Gerrard playing as an advanced midfielder with the freedom to roam where he likes.

Unfortunatly I dont think that will be the case!

Yes, you're probably right. Lampard, Barry and Johnson will all probably start, I just hope we're both wrong!

Not sold on Phil Jones, Johnson not had the best of seasons, but still a solid RB.

Not sure Gerrard should start, short of form and fitness this season, would rather see Rooneys role encompass dropping off somewhat.

Hodgson is also using Jones as his reasoning for not taking Rio.

So apparently Jones>Richards+Ferdinand.

He's gonna be nicknamed Mr Scapegoat this reason. Tbh, I'm a little surprised he hasn't been used to excuse the Downing debacle....

That said, he does have more goals and assits.....

In fairness, Downing looks to have just got his first assist, Dalglish seems on the verge of going.

TopHat24/7 wrote:No end product is no end product. Looking/playing pretty doesn't win you games and neither does a record of 36-0-0

Shame he's not in boxing with a record like that.

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:In fairness, Downing looks to have just got his first assist, Dalglish seems on the verge of going.

two_tone wrote:

Graeme Swann's Cat wrote:In fairness, Downing looks to have just got his first assist, Dalglish seems on the verge of going.

I'll echo that, very good indeed

really dont understand how he cant take rio but then give gerrard the captaincy?? rio's played far more this season than gerrard and also been in a hell of alot better form. same old favourites getting picked again despite form. lampards been poor all season yet walks in again and dont me started how downing and johnsen are anywhere near the team!!

think getting out of the groups will be a acheivement

I don't know if he is offered cash to pick certain players over others.. i'm very sceptical about it!

Johnson? Gerrard? Downing? Lampard? Terry?

Really?

I'm guessing the only reason these players have been picked is purely for marketing purposes. The Euro 2012 posters have already been printed and included their pictures.

Roy Hodgson probably got told by the FA that sponsors expect 15 certain money making players. You have the option to choose who you like after those are selected.

Gerrard has done nothing this year. Now he is England captain? What a disgrace!

Alessandro Ciambella wrote:Johnson? Gerrard? Downing? Lampard? Terry?

Really?

I'm guessing the only reason these players have been picked is purely for marketing purposes. The Euro 2012 posters have already been printed and included their pictures.

Roy Hodgson probably got told by the FA that sponsors expect 15 certain money making players. You have the option to choose who you like after those are selected.

Gerrard has done nothing this year. Now he is England captain? What a disgrace!

i suprised the fa havnt wheeled beckham out for that reason, but more worringly is that beckhams been in better from than both gerrard and lampard!!

Liverpool seem to be the biggest beneficiaries of this debacle which, given their god awful season, is absolutely absurd.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Liverpool seem to be the biggest beneficiaries of this debacle which, given their god awful season, is absolutely absurd.

Liverpool don't really benefit from it to be honest, players are now going to be playing football this summer rather than getting a rest. It's good for Carroll who will hopefully keep up some good form and stay fit, but for Gerrard it's worrying, as he could very easily get injured.

They did make the final of two cup competitions, though.

EnglishReign wrote:They did make the final of two cup competitions, though.

every game in the fa cup they won was at home, anfield never been a easy place to go to despite thier league form, england wont have that home advantage

Its good for Carroll, seems very much a confidence player.

Gerrard probably gets injured tho.

How has Andy Carroll 4 goals in 32 PL apps got in ahead of

Grant Holt 15 goals in 35 apps
Peter Crouch 10 goals in 32 apps

Please someone explain this to me?

compelling and rich wrote:

EnglishReign wrote:They did make the final of two cup competitions, though.

every game in the fa cup they won was at home, anfield never been a easy place to go to despite thier league form, england wont have that home advantage

True but one of them was v United and one was against Everton at Wembley, two massive games. In the Carling cup they won away at Chelsea and City.

I don't want to turn this into a Liverpool thing, plenty of others have done that, but there are far more interesting selections in that squad imo.

Looking at that squad only:
Leighton Baines (Everton)
John Ruddy (Norwich)
and Rob Green (West Ham)

Don't come from one of the so called 'big clubs' in England. Do players like Dyer, Britton, Holt not get a look in because they play for so called unfashionable teams. I'm pretty sure if Carroll scored 4 goals in 32 PL games for Norwich he wouldn't be in the squad

ollyrules wrote:How has Andy Carroll 4 goals in 32 PL apps got in ahead of

Grant Holt 15 goals in 35 apps
Peter Crouch 10 goals in 32 apps

Please someone explain this to me?

Because he's a better player?

You only have to watch to see that. Put your stats to one side, save them for Countdown, and watch. He's clearly a better player. He's an excellent player.

Electric Demon wrote:

ollyrules wrote:How has Andy Carroll 4 goals in 32 PL apps got in ahead of

Grant Holt 15 goals in 35 apps
Peter Crouch 10 goals in 32 apps

Please someone explain this to me?

Because he's a better player?

You only have to watch to see that. Put your stats to one side, save them for Countdown, and watch. He's clearly a better player. He's an excellent player.

But Holt is an excellent player too! If Carroll was so good he would have scored more surely

I'll bet you a Sherbert Dib Dab that Carroll scores more than Holt next season.
Holt's had a great season. No doubt.
But Carroll is a different quality.

Electric Demon wrote:I'll bet you a Sherbert Dib Dab that Carroll scores more than Holt next season.
Holt's had a great season. No doubt.
But Carroll is a different quality.

Look I'm not gonna deny that Carroll has potential and he will be a great player. But I just think at the moment on current form Holt is better. The least Holt should get is a chance in a friendly, even if he gets cut after that.

no, no olly you don't get it. Downing is the best crosser of the ball in the PL, Carroll the best header of the ball. Don't let the stats fool you: the fact they've never combined to create a goal isn't important...

I actually don't mind Carroll's inclusion, he is in good form at least (talking recent form here). I'd have picked Sturridge (offers something different), Holt and Crouch instead of Wellbeck, Defoe and one of the midfielders though (probably Milner or Barry). Also Johnson in for Downing (who's rubbish). Then I'd probably have preferred Richards instead of Jones, but less fussed about that one.

Oh and Parker captain instead of Gerrard.

not too sure about carroll being different quality, potenial possibly. effective when on form but has really proven anything yet. one good season at newcastle thats it. hardly enough evidence to suggest he's a excellent player

England No.9 is Carroll's position for the next 10 years at least though. There's no-one else coming through who can play it, and Holt will have 2-3 years at best, that's IF he can maintain his form. So Carroll may as well get used to it.
Holt hasn't played in a high pressure situation all season. Carroll has, and conquered it.

took him about 8 months though, the Euro only lasts one (if you do well)

Also, if Holt is the better option now, regardless of whether he'll only have 2-3 years, he should play now. Who knows? We may even have unearthed a very good striker in that time...

Mad for Chelsea wrote:no, no olly you don't get it. Downing is the best crosser of the ball in the PL, Carroll the best header of the ball. Don't let the stats fool you: the fact they've never combined to create a goal isn't important....

Electric Demon wrote:England No.9 is Carroll's position for the next 10 years at least though. There's no-one else coming through who can play it, and Holt will have 2-3 years at best, that's IF he can maintain his form. So Carroll may as well get used to it.
Holt hasn't played in a high pressure situation all season. Carroll has, and conquered it.

How exactly has Carroll 'conquered it'? For me he still has to prove himself for Liverpool

Holt isn't the best option now though is he? Carroll is.
That's what I'm saying.
You're not going to see that on a calculator

Electric Demon wrote:England No.9 is Carroll's position for the next 10 years at least though. There's no-one else coming through who can play it, and Holt will have 2-3 years at best, that's IF he can maintain his form. So Carroll may as well get used to it.
Holt hasn't played in a high pressure situation all season. Carroll has, and conquered it.

the thing is england should be developing a team which can play football, not with strikers who's main strength is playing long to them. were never going to compete with the top teams hoofing it up field, and when carrolls at his best its from exactly that type of service. for that reason i would have taken strudige over him. inconsistant at times but more ability than carroll imo

Carrick not getting picked has to be the biggest laugh.. or has he quietly retired before this?

You can't explain how other midfielders would get in ahead first, considering how often he keeps the ball tidy, good patient player!

compelling and rich wrote:

Electric Demon wrote:England No.9 is Carroll's position for the next 10 years at least though. There's no-one else coming through who can play it, and Holt will have 2-3 years at best, that's IF he can maintain his form. So Carroll may as well get used to it.
Holt hasn't played in a high pressure situation all season. Carroll has, and conquered it.

the thing is england should be developing a team which can play football, not with strikers who's main strength is playing long to them. were never going to compete with the top teams hoofing it up field, and when carrolls at his best its from exactly that type of service. for that reason i would have taken strudige over him. inconsistant at times but more ability than carroll imo

I don't agree, Carroll doesn't play best when you just pump balls up to him, in fact he looks worse when you do that. You can play cross-field balls up to him, or you can play the ball to his feet and he's happy to play with it. It's the same weird media coverage that happened with Peter Crouch which also always claimed that playing Crouch meant we had to play long balls to suit his strengths, despite Crouch being better with his feet than his head.


Hodgson has said that Scott Parker is a doubt for Euro 2012, presumably that means if he goes out injured, the standby Henderson will be picked

I like how everyone has jumped on Hodgson within a week of his job, having not seen his selected squad play a game yet. Would have happened whoever he picked.
Same old England fans
You never deserve success
Give him a damn chance - judge the team on its performances. And get behind them for once.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Carrick not getting picked has to be the biggest laugh.. or has he quietly retired before this?

You can't explain how other midfielders would get in ahead first, considering how often he keeps the ball tidy, good patient player!

Carrick wasn't considered as he apparently told the FA he didn't want to be a "bit-part player". A bit pathetic if you ask me...

I've only skim-read through but here's my view.

Squad is poor as we have no genuine quality other than Rooney & Hart. Hodgson does himself absolutely no favour when he picks the appaling Downing and leaves out Ferdinand & Richards. The strikeforce is hardly going to scare european defences and if Carroll is first choice then long ball is simply going to be embarrasing to watch. If Parker fails to regain his fitness then we are left with the gareth 'the crab' barry to sit and hold in front of the back four.........embarrasing and we know how it will end.

I don't understand how James Milner gets into this england squad every time. It's like he's got a life long guarantee membership for the england squad for doing absolutely nothing. Adam Johnson on other hand should of gone, easily the most technically gifted winger in england who when he actually runs with the ball can actually amazingly control the ball and delive a final ball, unlike Theo, Aaron or Sturridge. Thank god Sturridge is not going because I don't think I could stand watching him perform trick after trick and then losing it.

Also why is gerrard captain? Will be amazed if he's fit for all three group games.
Getting out the group will be a struggle.

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Carrick not getting picked has to be the biggest laugh.. or has he quietly retired before this?

You can't explain how other midfielders would get in ahead first, considering how often he keeps the ball tidy, good patient player!

He isn't an English player. Doesn't play how England want.

HOOF-BUSTLE BUSTLE BUSTLE-HOOF......concede

Crimey wrote:

compelling and rich wrote:

Electric Demon wrote:England No.9 is Carroll's position for the next 10 years at least though. There's no-one else coming through who can play it, and Holt will have 2-3 years at best, that's IF he can maintain his form. So Carroll may as well get used to it.
Holt hasn't played in a high pressure situation all season. Carroll has, and conquered it.

the thing is england should be developing a team which can play football, not with strikers who's main strength is playing long to them. were never going to compete with the top teams hoofing it up field, and when carrolls at his best its from exactly that type of service. for that reason i would have taken strudige over him. inconsistant at times but more ability than carroll imo

I don't agree, Carroll doesn't play best when you just pump balls up to him, in fact he looks worse when you do that. You can play cross-field balls up to him, or you can play the ball to his feet and he's happy to play with it. It's the same weird media coverage that happened with Peter Crouch which also always claimed that playing Crouch meant we had to play long balls to suit his strengths, despite Crouch being better with his feet than his head.


Hodgson has said that Scott Parker is a doubt for Euro 2012, presumably that means if he goes out injured, the standby Henderson will be picked

Is he just trying to prove a point by playing a bunch of crumby Liverpool failures??

Presuming Parker is out (as many reports are now saying) that'll be an England starting XI including Glen Johnson, Jordan Henderson, Stewart Downing, Steven Gerrard and Andy Carroll - none of whom performed all season. 5 players, basically half the team, from a club finishing 8th in the league!

Electric Demon wrote:I like how everyone has jumped on Hodgson within a week of his job, having not seen his selected squad play a game yet. Would have happened whoever he picked.
Same old England fans
You never deserve success
Give him a damn chance - judge the team on its performances. And get behind them for once.

We have seen them all play together before thats the pooint nothing has changed.

two_tone wrote:

Electric Demon wrote:I like how everyone has jumped on Hodgson within a week of his job, having not seen his selected squad play a game yet. Would have happened whoever he picked.
Same old England fans
You never deserve success
Give him a damn chance - judge the team on its performances. And get behind them for once.

We have seen them all play together before thats the pooint nothing has changed.

agreed, with a new manager we were hoping for change but yet again he's stuck with the same underperforming players, no matter how badly some of the players play they are immune to being dropped. whats the point for playing well for your shirt when form realy doesnt count, as proven my the majority of the squad being liverpool players

No Emile Heskey? this makes me sad. Your taking Carroll and leaving Heskey!? I don't understand?

chelsea cl success was down to two things- drogba and the defense- having 3 chelsea defenders in our team is gonna give us a really good base to build on- dont get me wrong in an ideal world i would rather not hav terry in our team- but this is not a time for ideals- its a time for realities- and i think this is the reason why rio isnt going! Hodgson and the FA have accepted that for all the guys faults our team will be in more harmany with terry and not rio


I would rather have taken a team of youngsters- but know we have the same squad we allways have i suppose its the golden generations last chance- it worked for chelsea!!!

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Stewart Downing dinks in a cross in the training drill for Danny Welbeck to score.

There you go. I told you Downing's quality

I can't believe the BBC are reporting every little detail about a training session. No wonder there is always such high expectations. So Downing dinks in a cross for Welbeck to score. Like that is big news. Isn't that what they are supposed to do?

lorus59 wrote:I can't believe the BBC are reporting every little detail about a training session. No wonder there is always such high expectations. So Downing dinks in a cross for Welbeck to score. Like that is big news. Isn't that what they are supposed to do?

Downing dinking in a cross for someone to score is front-page stuff TBH, he hasn't done it much (read, at all) this season so far