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Post by Hero Mon 21 May 2012 - 20:46

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Star Player bids to be PM'd to Hero by 11pm on Wednesday evening. Star player cap is any player up to the value of £35m but you can bid more if you wish. You can only bid on one player at a time.


Everyone in League A (who votes on League B) send their results to Hero.
Everyone in League B (who votes on League A) send their results to TSC



To Qualify for the £2M Bonus, teams need to post their tactics by Midnight on Wednesday and PM their results by Midnight on Friday

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League A

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - HeroReal Ale Sociedad - TwisTAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyStraight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBullCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
Viva City - VivaPaulScholesTreble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners


Go Ahead Pigeons - Russell_Elmo

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The London Silly Nannies - sodhatJacamos United - TSCFC Furious - nick_furySporting Sideburns FC - GavAFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando
FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfanBorussia Munchingballsack - Sainty


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Post by Fernando Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:37

When do star bid have to be in by?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:37

[quote="sodhat"]
ollyrules wrote:
nick_fury wrote:
Best captain ever in my generation.

Umm have you not heard of GRANT HOLT Yahoo

HOLT = BEST CAPTAIN EVER!

Is his transfer request all a shrouded ploy to motivate his team then?

He is going to pretend to leave to make the team realise how much they would miss him. Meaning they will play better next season to keep him for longer Cool
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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:38

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Finally, Afro is here to talk sense!!
Several of you are blinded by the hype. Afro speaks the truth!

I remember a certain ppl here who had their tounge so far up Gervinho ___ last year, hes had a magnificant season at Arsenal hasnt he.


For me, Hazard will spend a lot of time on the bench if he joins City or United, as he is no better than Young, Valencia & Nani, or Silva & Nasri At Chelsea, I think he would play more.

Hazard has potential to be a real world beater, but his performances for Belgium (and Lille in CL) have been poor, so he also has the potential to be a complete waste of money.

I would probably risk him for £15-20m, but no more than that
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:38

Fernando wrote:When do star bid have to be in by?

Tomorrow midnight

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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:39

Neymar will easily warrant a 32m fee if he moves, he's also proved nothing.
1. he will go straight to Real or Barca.
2. its clear to see hes much better than Hazard.

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:40

ollyrules wrote:
sodhat wrote:
ollyrules wrote:

Umm have you not heard of GRANT HOLT Yahoo

HOLT = BEST CAPTAIN EVER!

Is his transfer request all a shrouded ploy to motivate his team then?

He is going to milk the club for all their worth because he had an alright season. Meaning they will resent him next season because he's paid so much Cool

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:40

Why has TSC locked his page? Did he get too dizzy because of all the deals? Wink
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:41

sodhat wrote:I expect Collison to have a good year if he can finally put his problems behind him and get time on the pitch. Wasn't long ago he was linked with Arsenal and I still think highly of him.

Carlton Cole to score 0 goals in the PL next season. You heard it here.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:42

Hero wrote:Neymar will easily warrant a 32m fee if he moves, he's also proved nothing.
The fact that Chelsea, City, Utd and others are willing to pay it shows they believe him to be worth it and a player is only worth what clubs wish to put forward.

But Real and Barca are not prepared to pay it. For me, it is English clubs desperately trying to catch up with the Spanish and paying over the odds.

Neymar stands out a lot more, in a better league than Hazard, and there is a strong history of players from Brazil becoming world stars. It is much weaker in players coming from the French league for the first time.

Also, Joe Cole has looked brilliant for Lille. If he went back to Liverpool, would you back him to be brilliant for them as well?
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:43

ollyrules wrote:
sodhat wrote:I expect Collison to have a good year if he can finally put his problems behind him and get time on the pitch. Wasn't long ago he was linked with Arsenal and I still think highly of him.

Carlton Cole to score 0 goals in the PL next season. You heard it here.

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How dare you besmirch Carlton Cole's moderate goalscoring record!

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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:43

Hazard has potential to be a real world beater, but his performances for Belgium (and Lille in CL) have been poor, so he also has the potential to be a complete waste of money.

Hes had quite an inconsistant season. Playing 5/6 Champions League games this season and was far from impressive.
End of season he wants to put himself in the shop window, up his value, he cant do that at the Euros so he had to try even harder in Lilles last few games.

Anyway, as I pointed out, some of you contradict yourselves.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:43

For me Neymar is better than Hazard but not by much.

Plus French league > Brazilian League IMO
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Post by Russell_Elmo Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:44

BigFellasAfro wrote:Also, Joe Cole has looked brilliant for Lille. If he went back to Liverpool, would you back him to be brilliant for them as well?

The season before Chelsea sold him to Liverpool he was still a quality player. I don't know why we let him go.

His main downfall for his whole career is his proneness to injuries, which is a shame because he had so much potential

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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:44

Also, Joe Cole has looked brilliant for Lille. If he went back to Liverpool, would you back him to be brilliant for them as well?
if he played central he would do much better. Hes had a good season. I tweeted that hes the forgotten man this year, not a single shout for the Euro squad yet hes been far far better than Downing.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:45

nick_fury wrote:
Hazard has potential to be a real world beater, but his performances for Belgium (and Lille in CL) have been poor, so he also has the potential to be a complete waste of money.

Hes had quite an inconsistant season. Playing 5/6 Champions League games this season and was far from impressive.
End of season he wants to put himself in the shop window, up his value, he cant do that at the Euros so he had to try even harder in Lilles last few games.

Anyway, as I pointed out, some of you contradict yourselves.

And the Belgian coach has been moaning about his performance for them. He could become a good example of being a terrific big fish in a small pond, but put him in a league where there are plenty as good as him and he disappears.
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Post by Fernando Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:46

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Post by Fernando Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:46

BigFellasAfro wrote:
nick_fury wrote:
Hazard has potential to be a real world beater, but his performances for Belgium (and Lille in CL) have been poor, so he also has the potential to be a complete waste of money.

Hes had quite an inconsistant season. Playing 5/6 Champions League games this season and was far from impressive.
End of season he wants to put himself in the shop window, up his value, he cant do that at the Euros so he had to try even harder in Lilles last few games.

Anyway, as I pointed out, some of you contradict yourselves.

And the Belgian coach has been moaning about his performance for them. He could become a good example of being a terrific big fish in a small pond, but put him in a league where there are plenty as good as him and he disappears.

AKA The Samir Nasri Syndrome Whistle

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Post by cherriesfna Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:47

who has naldo and nene
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:47

Afro thoughts on the Holt transfer request and Lambert to Villa?
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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:47

Russell_Elmo wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:Also, Joe Cole has looked brilliant for Lille. If he went back to Liverpool, would you back him to be brilliant for them as well?

The season before Chelsea sold him to Liverpool he was still a quality player. I don't know why we let him go.

His main downfall for his whole career is his proneness to injuries, which is a shame because he had so much potential

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Also, Joe Cole has looked brilliant for Lille. If he went back to Liverpool, would you back him to be brilliant for them as well?
if he played central he would do much better. Hes had a good season. I tweeted that hes the forgotten man this year, not a single shout for the Euro squad yet hes been far far better than Downing.

He could be brilliant in England again, but my point being you wouldn't put a tonne of money on it as it is far from certain
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:49

cherriesfan wrote:who has naldo and nene

No idea if Naldo is in the league - go and check the current player lists

Nene is with Twist, assuming you mean PSG Nene

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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:50

you wouldn't put a tonne of money on it as it is far from certain
Indeed.

Nando, I have a feeling your Star Player bid is the same as mine. ooohhhhhh.

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:50

Afro, we built that statue of you as promised, with the inscription "He really loved Toni Kroos."

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:50

Right am off to my mates before the Drury game!

See you guys later
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Post by Fernando Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:51

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Indeed.

Nando, I have a feeling your Star Player bid is the same as mine. ooohhhhhh.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:51

ollyrules wrote:Afro thoughts on the Holt transfer request and Lambert to Villa?

I think Holt is driven by one last chance for a big deal and a established Premier League club, while his stock is at it's highest. If he doesn't repeat this season, next year, then he won't have that chance again.

And I like Lambert, and dislike Villa so hope not. I think Solskjaer will end up at Villa

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Plus French league > Brazilian League IMO

Strongly disagree on that. french league is very thin on quality outside the top sides, whilst Brazil is much more competitive, with a lot of talent even in the lower teams
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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:52

sodhat wrote:Afro, we built that statue of you as promised, with the inscription "He really loved Toni Kroos."

Thanks Sod!

Got to admit to how disappointing Kroos was on Saturday. Kept getting on the ball, but that is the worse I have ever seen him play when in possession.
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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:54


I doubt it somehow your going after Utd players
I told everyone my target yday.....Its.................
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Post by Fernando Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:55

nick_fury wrote:

I doubt it somehow your going after Utd players
I told everyone my target yday.

I missed that then who was it?

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:56

BigFellasAfro wrote:
sodhat wrote:Afro, we built that statue of you as promised, with the inscription "He really loved Toni Kroos."

Thanks Sod!

Got to admit to how disappointing Kroos was on Saturday. Kept getting on the ball, but that is the worse I have ever seen him play when in possession.

My memory is a bit hazy now, but as I sit here I can't think of anyone for Bayern who really played brilliantly. The stats suggest they dominated the game but I don't remember one player taking it by the scruff of the neck. All I remember is Robben shooting a lot!

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:57

Hey Afro fancy taking up a team? (When there is one available of course)
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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:57

It was the same as TSC and Bull i think.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 15:59

Kroos kept shooting a lot too, and most of them were well wide!

He did get the assist for Muller's goal though, which was a lovely cross.

For me everytime Bayern went forward, you felt like they were going to create a chance, especially whenever Ribery got on the ball against Bosingwa. But amazingly, Chelsea held strong - Ashley Cole was immense!
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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:01

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hey Afro fancy taking up a team? (When there is one available of course)

Nah. The league has passed me by a bit too much now, plus I look at the teams and based on all the old leagues I was in, I worry it has moved on too quickly.

However, it has lasted much longer than Azzy's Serie A league Laugh
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Post by Fernando Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:02

Im going for
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so unless it's him we're not going after the same person Laugh

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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:02

BigFellasAfro wrote:Kroos kept shooting a lot too, and most of them were well wide!

He did get the assist for Muller's goal though, which was a lovely cross.

For me everytime Bayern went forward, you felt like they were going to create a chance, especially whenever Ribery got on the ball against Bosingwa. But amazingly, Chelsea held strong - Ashley Cole was immense!

He was my man of the match for sure, he really proved to be the best left back going, even if people hate him for being greedy (both with the money thing and cheating on Cheryl...).

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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:02

My memory is a bit hazy now, but as I sit here I can't think of anyone for Bayern who really played brilliantly. The stats suggest they dominated the game but I don't remember one player taking it by the scruff of the neck. All I remember is Robben shooting a lot!
Frunk Rubbery played well.
Robben is a big game choker. Its not the first time hes done it. Most recent before the CL penalty in ET was the Bayern v Dortmund League match, Bayern needed a point to keep there hopes of a title alive, 90th min penalty and Robben chokes.
He choked in the one on one vs Casillas in the WC.
CL semi vs Liverpool he missed a penalty too (his Chelsea days) I think.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:04

sodhat wrote:
He was my man of the match for sure, he really proved to be the second best left back going after Leighton, even if people hate him for being greedy (both with the money thing and cheating on Cheryl...).

Corrected
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:05

Just finally before I leave.

Lambert won't go to Villa, not good enough for him.
Holt just wants more money, club will give it to him.
Never really watched Brazilian League so I can't rate it Laugh

And who I am going for in the Star Player

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Now off and remember,

YOU'LL NEVER BEAT THE DRURY Yahoo Yahoo
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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:05

Fair enough.

Cole was fantastic and even though I've been praising Baines the past two years Cole reminded me whos the boss of the LB position. No disrepect to Baines but when Cole is on form there is not a better LB in the world (Even our Patrice Evra) and I trust him to do a better job against the truley best wingers in the world (Except Valencia) over Baines.
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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:07

Dont worry Nando. Its not the same. But I have a feeling 2/3 people will be going for my target so I need to get my price right.

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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:07

Oh, Olly is going for same as me, he said the other day

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:08

nick_fury wrote:
My memory is a bit hazy now, but as I sit here I can't think of anyone for Bayern who really played brilliantly. The stats suggest they dominated the game but I don't remember one player taking it by the scruff of the neck. All I remember is Robben shooting a lot!
Frunk Rubbery played well.
Robben is a big game choker. Its not the first time hes done it. Most recent before the CL penalty in ET was the Bayern v Dortmund League match, Bayern needed a point to keep there hopes of a title alive, 90th min penalty and Robben chokes.
He choked in the one on one vs Casillas in the WC.
CL semi vs Liverpool he missed a penalty too (his Chelsea days) I think.

Finally, I've been saying Robben is a bottler for ages but no one agreed with me. Infact he had two chances against Casillas to win Holland the World Cup. I really thought Schweinsteiger would own the game for some reason he didn't don't know if it was the early yellow card.
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Post by sodhat Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:09

I like Baines but the best RW/RB duo he'll face each season doesn't compare to Robben/Lahm for me.

He has the edge offensively perhaps though.

I thought Gomez looked poor, but I've always seen him as someone who may take a few chances to get his goals.

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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:12

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Fair enough.

Cole was fantastic and even though I've been praising Baines the past two years Cole reminded me whos the boss of the LB position. No disrepect to Baines but when Cole is on form there is not a better LB in the world (Even our Patrice Evra) and I trust him to do a better job against the truley best wingers in the world (Except Valencia) over Baines.

What is you say about rating a player on one performance compared to consistency over the whole season.

But I was only being tongue in cheek with Sodhat and agree that Ashley Cole, on his day, is a better player than Baines.
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Post by nick_fury Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:16

I thought Gomez looked poor, but I've always seen him as someone who may take a few chances to get his goals.
I remember the hype to Gomez before the World Cup and he was pants. He smashes the German League but apart from the Real Madrid Semi where he played well Ive never seen real quality preformances from him in big games.

Dzeko is the same. Smashed the German League isnt that good.

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:16

You're right Afro past two years I would say Baines has been the best LB in England and should be in the First XI for us at Euros.
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Post by Hero Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:16

nick_fury wrote:Dont worry Nando. Its not the same. But I have a feeling 2/3 people will be going for my target so I need to get my price right.

Is it Hazard? Whistle

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Post by FIFA Diva Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:19

I'm buying Lavessi.
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Post by Afro Tue 22 May 2012 - 16:19

VivaPaulScholes wrote:You're right Afro past two years I would say Baines has been the best LB in England and should be in the First XI for us at Euros.

I would go with Cole, but Baines isn't a bad back-up. Cole never lets England down and in the last few tournaments has been one of the few England players to come back with any credit.
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