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Post by Hero Mon 21 May 2012, 8:46 pm

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Star Player bids to be PM'd to Hero by 11pm on Wednesday evening. Star player cap is any player up to the value of £35m but you can bid more if you wish. You can only bid on one player at a time.


Everyone in League A (who votes on League B) send their results to Hero.
Everyone in League B (who votes on League A) send their results to TSC



To Qualify for the £2M Bonus, teams need to post their tactics by Midnight on Wednesday and PM their results by Midnight on Friday

NEW RULES!!!!

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League Breakdown and Rules

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League A

Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - HeroReal Ale Sociedad - TwisTAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyStraight-Edge United - TheBrahmaBullCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
Viva City - VivaPaulScholesTreble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners


Go Ahead Pigeons - Russell_Elmo

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League B

The London Silly Nannies - sodhatJacamos United - TSCFC Furious - nick_furySporting Sideburns FC - GavAFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando
FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfanBorussia Munchingballsack - Sainty


City Of Norwich FC - ncfc_Tooze


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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 2:22 pm

think of neymar

then think of
Hulk + Neymar

then think of
Hulk+Neyamr + hernanes_costa+ willian

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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 2:23 pm

theres last night and then there half and hour
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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 2:24 pm

Cherry came onto the board last night about 20 minutes after the deadline to put in the bid.
This morning we publically asked what other people thought on the matter and people were happy to let him have the bid. We then decided to impose a 20% increase in the value to compensate for him having to place a higher bid.

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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 2:26 pm

Viva, you're right in principle, but everyone had over a week to submit their End of Season Lawyers offers, and officially only one day for their Star Player, Cherries was minutes late. He'd have got him cheaper if he had to wait until the 2nd round of Star Players, so him paying £36M is the compromise.

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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 2:27 pm

i wasnt allowed in the 2nd round
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Post by The Special Juan Thu 24 May 2012, 2:27 pm

2 weeks actually
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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 2:29 pm

*If you were allowed Cherries.

Viva, you were given two weeks to put in your nominated players for Lawyers, were online throughout and were the only one who didn't do it. The timeframes involved with the Star Player makes it completely different.

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Post by sodhat Thu 24 May 2012, 2:31 pm

Aside from all this, Cherries - you need to confirm your deal on the transfers page dude

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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 2:33 pm

Cherries,

Hulk
£5M
ENQ

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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 2:34 pm

Yes and then I can put in my 2nd round bid and confirm it!!!

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Post by sodhat Thu 24 May 2012, 2:35 pm

The second round should be renamed 'The Hero Round'

Because it's the only place you ever get players!

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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 2:37 pm

Laugh

Oh and in regards to Oasis being Britpop, they were certainly thought of as being part of the scene but they themselves never thought of themselves as part of it.

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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 2:37 pm

You are taking the urine?

It don't matter if I was given 10 years to put up my Lawyers list the fact is I missed the deadline just like Cherrys did. An he gets to buy his players but I was not allowed to do my lawyer. It's bad enough that he gets to do his but to then make excuses is wrong.

It don't matter if Cherrys had to pay extra or not, he should have gone through the same as everyone else. Now he knows that he has to pay 20% extra and the player is his. I'm sure if everyone had to pay 20% more to get thier player they would.

Cherry can now play the exact fee for Hulk tomorrow knowing that people don't have the cash or the ones who do won't go for him.
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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 2:39 pm

Because we discussed it earlier and decided he could at a premium.
I actually said rules are rules. Shouldnt of been allowed.

Viva make a very good point. Whats the point of the premium of 20%. as Cheery knows he will get the player as every but Hero has there player.
Cherry just needs to bid the minimum, pay the 20% and BOOM.
Thats not fair at all. I would of saved £1+ if i was allowed to do that.

20 minutes late is still late. If I was 5 minutes late for work id be in the same amount of doo doo if I was 10 minutes later. Late is late. Rules are rules (for some of us at least).

The principle is bang on right. Shouldnt of been allowed.

Hero, I want another TP this week, I will pay a 10% preimium on it ok.

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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 2:39 pm

Thats the decision Viva and its final.

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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 2:40 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:You are taking the urine?

It don't matter if I was given 10 years to put up my Lawyers list the fact is I missed the deadline just like Cherrys did. An he gets to buy his players but I was not allowed to do my lawyer. It's bad enough that he gets to do his but to then make excuses is wrong.

It don't matter if Cherrys had to pay extra or not, he should have gone through the same as everyone else. Now he knows that he has to pay 20% extra and the player is his. I'm sure if everyone had to pay 20% more to get thier player they would.

Cherry can now play the exact fee for Hulk tomorrow knowing that people don't have the cash or the ones who do won't go for him.

Viva - there is a second draft for managers who didn't get a player in the first round.

Ask yourself, which is better for you - Cherries gets Hulk now for 20% above value, or he just goes for him in the second round and gets him for value
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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 2:40 pm

Oh TSC
Llorente is a steal at £5.5m
Thats because we dont know if he will start, how much match time he will get.

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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 2:41 pm

There's only one way to resolve this calmly.

Give Viva his three Lawyers offers. Sorted.

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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 2:42 pm

nick_fury wrote:
Because we discussed it earlier and decided he could at a premium.
I actually said rules are rules. Shouldnt of been allowed.

Viva make a very good point. Whats the point of the premium of 20%. as Cheery knows he will get the player as every but Hero has there player.
Cherry just needs to bid the minimum, pay the 20% and BOOM.
Thats not fair at all. I would of saved £1+ if i was allowed to do that.

20 minutes late is still late. If I was 5 minutes late for work id be in the same amount of doo doo if I was 10 minutes later. Late is late. Rules are rules (for some of us at least).

The principle is bang on right. Shouldnt of been allowed.

Hero, I want another TP this week, I will pay a 10% preimium on it ok.

Rules state that he would have been able to bid in the second draft, and in doing so would have just bid the minimum for Hulk. This way, it evens it out as he has to pay an inflated price rather than just get him for the minimum.
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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 2:43 pm

There's only one way to resolve this calmly.
Give Viva his three Lawyers offers. Sorted.
Dont forget my Fgn TP too. It carries a 10% premium so thats makes it ok

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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 2:45 pm

Cherrys should have been told no you've missed the deadline (Just like I did) an if the player is still in TM in the second draft you can put a bid in. Now that would have been the fair thing to do, an if Cherry bid the exact price for Hulk that would be great an if he bid £20m more then the player is worth thats his choice. But now he knows what the fee is and 99% nobody else is going to buy Hulk knowing that Cherrys want him.

But Hero you said thats the decision and I respect that I won't bring it up anymore OK



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Post by sodhat Thu 24 May 2012, 2:46 pm

Afro's point is the most valid here. If anyone should moan it's cherries, if he had been more patient he would have gotten Hulk at face value.


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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 2:50 pm

Rules state that he would have been able to bid in the second draft, and in doing so would have just bid the minimum for Hulk. This way, it evens it out as he has to pay an inflated price rather than just get him for the minimum.
Did they? Do you see how thats unfair tho? Everyone else has there targets pick and paid, done. So you can see all the players free and just take you pick.
At least Hero was involved in the first round, he was unlucky with an unsuccessful bid but he now has a free pick of what left, but he has warranted that free pick by being part of the process.

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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 2:50 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Cherrys should have been told no you've missed the deadline (Just like I did) an if the player is still in TM in the second draft you can put a bid in. Now that would have been the fair thing to do, an if Cherry bid the exact price for Hulk that would be great an if he bid £20m more then the player is worth thats his choice. But now he knows what the fee is and 99% nobody else is going to buy Hulk knowing that Cherrys want him.

But Hero you said thats the decision and I respect that I won't bring it up anymore OK

Second draft is only for managers who didn't get a player in draft 1. So cherries pretty much knows the price for Hulk would be TM.com value.

Only Hero could bid against him and he is more sensible than go into a bidding war when he knows he can get a player for minimal cost.

In your method, it is 99.9% likely that Cherries will get Hulk later today for £30m. On the decided approach, he is 100% to get him today for £36m.

Why are you arguing for Cherries to get a player for £6m less
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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 2:51 pm

And as it is...

My Star Player in the 2nd round is Yaya Toure bought for 31m on the dot.
De Jong and Toure rampaging through the centre. BOOM!

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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 2:52 pm

nick_fury wrote:
Rules state that he would have been able to bid in the second draft, and in doing so would have just bid the minimum for Hulk. This way, it evens it out as he has to pay an inflated price rather than just get him for the minimum.
Did they? Do you see how thats unfair tho? Everyone else has there targets pick and paid, done. So you can see all the players free and just take you pick.
At least Hero was involved in the first round, he was unlucky with an unsuccessful bid but he now has a free pick of what left, but he has warranted that free pick by being part of the process.

A flaw in the process I agree. The rules should be that if you didn't bid in round 1, that excludes you from all the other rounds.

Personally, if I had still been admin I would have been pushing that he shouldn't get another go and it's tough cheese. Just opens a big can of worms.
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Post by sodhat Thu 24 May 2012, 2:54 pm

Sounds like a good innovation for next season Afro

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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 2:54 pm

I am happy to act as an independant adjudicator here and make a call based on how I read the rules?
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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 2:58 pm

It was a lose lose situation, let him have it and impose a sanction would get one or two moaning, not let him have it and we would be thought of as hardline meanies and others would moan.

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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 3:02 pm

Agreed.

Better to be a hardline meanie with people moaning IMO. No favours for anyone is the only way that everyone is treated the same.
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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 3:03 pm

Congratulations on Hulk Cherrys OK
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Post by Afro Thu 24 May 2012, 3:04 pm

Cherries - you do know that Hulk and Neymar together has not worked for Brazil IRL. They haven't played well together at all, which is why Hulk doesn't get more games
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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 3:04 pm

A flaw in the process I agree. The rules should be that if you didn't bid in round 1, that excludes you from all the other rounds.
Personally, if I had still been admin I would have been pushing that he shouldn't get another go and it's tough cheese. Just opens a big can of worms.

clap Top man Afro.

Hero, can I have another Tp at a 10% permium than?

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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 3:04 pm

Whos up for some deals?

Looking to bring in new faces.
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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 3:05 pm

thaks soory bout this i honestly thought the deadline was midnight yesterday
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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 3:06 pm

now where to play hulk hehehehe
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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 3:06 pm

cherriesfan wrote:thaks soory bout this i honestly thought the deadline was midnight yesterday

It's not like "11PM Wednesday" was written on the Homepage is it Whistle

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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 3:06 pm

nick_fury wrote:
A flaw in the process I agree. The rules should be that if you didn't bid in round 1, that excludes you from all the other rounds.
Personally, if I had still been admin I would have been pushing that he shouldn't get another go and it's tough cheese. Just opens a big can of worms.

clap Top man Afro.

Hero, can I have another Tp at a 10% permium than?

Is a 10% Permium like a small David Luiz?

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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 3:08 pm

consudering going 4-2-4
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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 3:12 pm

Cherrys do you go to a special school for people with learning problems?
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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 3:12 pm

no y
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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 3:13 pm

I mean do you teach kids with learning difficulties there? I thought you once said you did part time.
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Post by cherriesfna Thu 24 May 2012, 3:14 pm

wha?
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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 3:15 pm

Laugh

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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 3:16 pm

Forget it Cherrys.

Whos up for a major deal?

Looking to do a swap 5 for 5 or something.
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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 3:23 pm

Is a 10% Permium like a small David Luiz?
Yes. Can I have a TP at the expense of a 10% increase than.

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Post by nick_fury Thu 24 May 2012, 3:24 pm

Laugh

Maybe Cherry is the one being taught

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Post by Hero Thu 24 May 2012, 3:24 pm

nick_fury wrote:
Is a 10% Permium like a small David Luiz?
Yes. Can I have a TP at the expense of a 10% increase than.

No

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Post by Marky Thu 24 May 2012, 3:25 pm

Nick, you could always just wait until Monday for a new TP Wink

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Post by FIFA Diva Thu 24 May 2012, 3:28 pm

When is season 2 kicking off?
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