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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sat 26 May 2012, 10:43 pm

Can we say foreign decisions not made until Monday. Original date was Monday so some may not know

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 1:04 am

Watching ap final on replay. Jj player if season from February huge huge effort and destructive.

Quins excellent and the front 5 set tone

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 1:08 am

dammit_chris wrote:How good was Robshaw though - wonder if they will ever consider moving Croft to lock and then keeping Robshaw at no6.



Need ball carriers. Robshaw is a 6 but robshaw croft botha Morgan +1 is dreadful.

Robshaw decent 6 but not England class. Another Buxton ie great player club hero

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 11:52 am

Interesting to see how England play against the Baa Baas today. Will they be really structured or look to go fast and loose as it's essentially an exhibition game???
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 11:59 am

"Robshaw decent 6 but not England class. Another Buxton ie great player club hero"

Did you see Robshaw yesterday? Outstanding, link play was out of this world.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 12:03 pm

If England opt for expansive rugby then they will put 4-5 tries passed that Baa Baas team. But a midfield of Farrell and Barritt just doesnt allow for that.

Our backthree is very exciting though - really hoping that Wade puts in a performance, quickly becoming one of my favourites at Wasps - really nice bloke too, very humble.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 12:05 pm

Midfield is all wrong for me, Farrell no centre and Barritt no 12.

2nd half

10. Farrell
12. Barritt
13. JJ

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 12:05 pm

Would think that England will be looking to unload the bench early in the second half so hopefully once that happens we will see some more expansive stuff.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 12:06 pm

Thought Robshaw was very good yesterday, best I think I've seen him play - its his leadership that I like most though.

Still think he might miss out on the Lions though as he wont go as a no6 (Lydiate, Ferris, Croft) and he's just not an international class no7. Going to need to carry on improving.

You looking forward to seeing Dowson captain England today Mat?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:08 pm

I presume you mean barrit no 13 Pooly.

I'd like to have a look to see how Burns goes. Hoping for a big game from Fearns as well.

Just watching yesterdays AP final. Robshaw playing 10 in attack it seems. Playing some lovely stuff! What a farce of a lineout that was for Mafi's try!


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 12:09 pm

Some good options Chris at flank for Lions

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 12:10 pm

Haha...yea I did.

Quins lineout was garbage, ran at 60% I think and Tigers 100% till Youngs came on.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:14 pm

When are we allowed to bid for Championship players Pete?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 12:18 pm

Will look to open that up in the next week or so Steve.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:23 pm

Cheers.

Oz squad

Ben Alexander, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Berrick Barnes, Kurtley Beale, Quade Cooper, Dave Dennis, Kane Douglas, Anthony Faingaa, Saia Faingaa, Bernard Foley, Will Genia, Michael Harris, Scott Higginbotham, Michael Hooper, Rob Horne, Digby Ioane, Sekope Kepu, Salesi Ma'afu, Pat McCabe, Ben McCalman, Jesse Mogg, Stephen Moore, Luke Morahan, Cadeyrn Neville, Dan Palmer, Wycliff Palu, Nick Phipps, David Pocock, Tatafu Polota Nau, Hugh Pyle, Benn Robinson, Nathan Sharpe, Dominic Shipperley, Rob Simmons, James Slipper, Sitaleki Timani, Joseph Tomane, Cooper Vuna, Nic White

some good young talent in there!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 12:34 pm

Some interesting calls for the Wallabies. No place for Liam Gill I see.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:38 pm

I didn't notice that. Bit of a surprise. Apparently Horwill got injured in yesterdays game I didn't see the 2nd half though.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 12:39 pm

Surprised Gill isnt there, he'd be in the England setup straight away! Aussies have some serious talent there.

Cooper Vuna could really be a good call for them - he'd be a great signing for someone on here!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 12:39 pm

Gill captain of U20's was never getting picked

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:42 pm

Clearly doesn't think there is room for 3 opensides when you have Higginbottom who can cover there. fair call but still unlucky on Gill who has been playing well. His rucking is excellent as well as the turnovers.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:48 pm

Anthony Allen having a huge final for Leicester. Doesn't deserve to lose.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 27 May 2012, 12:50 pm

Horwill a massive blow, their only world class lock. No Elsom included.

Genoa or Pocock captain?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 12:51 pm

Genia I'd have though. Still have Nathan Sharpe who I'd consider world class.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 1:00 pm

Pooly - didnt even know Gill had made the JWC squad! That changes a lot in that competition - reckon it puts the Aussies ahead of the AB's, who have probably got their least experienced squad ever for this tournament.

Probably go SA as favourites then Aus with NZ/England - England are a lot weaker without Kvesvic, Ford and Daly.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 27 May 2012, 1:21 pm

Such a shame sharpe is retiring. Been sensational this season.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 1:51 pm

some cracking games of league on today - can never work out if I enjoy that sport or not - used to be great fun to play and some huge hits too!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 2:00 pm

It really is Luke. Heard rumours he might change his mind but think its unlikely.

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 2:04 pm

To quote Ben Kay "jj has torn apart ayerza and tongahuia in the last 2 games"

What has happened to make him such a monster. He was gash at start of the season and I almost released hin.

Youngs 10 minutes of brilliance but not much before

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 2:12 pm

JJ also gets a way with awful binding - I know nothing about front row play but he makes me laugh as he always grabs the opposite props arm and drags him down.

His confidence is absolutely sky high and has so much power.

Was impressed with Grey at hooker, apart from his throwing - Tom Youngs might have been called up to England a tad early...

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:16 pm

I don't think Youngs could of done anything in the first 60 , was on the back foot most of the game whilt Care had a arm chair ride.

T Youngs is a great shout by SL , real physical player and lineout is pretty solid.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 2:17 pm

Thought Danny Care put himself into the starting England no9 shirt yesterday - thought he was awesome.

Wish I got tickets to today's game, love the Baa Baas - glad Hartley is back for us today - with Cole, Hartley, Corbs/Marler we could have an amazing front three for the next decade!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 2:18 pm

Both Youngs bro's were poor yesterday. A good scrum half has to work off the back foot sometimes. Care outplayed him hands down.

Tom Youngs needs some more AP time. Scrumaging looks to need work as well. He can't be close to a test call up.

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 2:20 pm

Amazed by the amount of good ball quins got. Their front row was excellent 8,9,10 dominated it for them. Quins need another second row to replace kohn who is average

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:32 pm

Solid start from England. Great take from Dowsen
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 2:38 pm

Who knew John Smit could throw passes like that to Laulala!!!
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:39 pm

He's a man of many talents , he's kick through for Matfield a few years back was class.
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:43 pm

Great play from the pack , thinking positive and moving the ball rather than looking for the contact.
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:48 pm

Lovely from Dickson , Ashton in under the sticks
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 2:51 pm

Farrell displaying his elusive running game and deft touch.....kick, kick, kick

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:52 pm

TJ struggling early doors , missing a few tackles.
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 2:55 pm

Ouch...
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:02 pm

That's the worst attempt at a finish i'v ever seen. Botha you tool
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 3:02 pm

That was poor from Farrell, should have been a walk in for Botha.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 3:03 pm

Not good from Owen at all. A little worrying

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:04 pm

Yellow for Wade?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 3:06 pm

I wouldn't be overly worried as there are a few England players who look as if they are treating this as what it is, and exhibition. Intensity level is well below where it would/should be for a proper test match.
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:07 pm

There just going through the motions and having a daft pass about really. Think we could see Faz off at half time and JJ on.
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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sun 27 May 2012, 3:09 pm

Farrell is having a very poor game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:10 pm

Palmer looking good, agree Pete but if a write off

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:10 pm

Off the tee he is , He's playing well as a distribute besides one bad pass to Botha.
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