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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 23 May 2012, 10:27 am

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Fantasy Aviva Premiership Current League Table

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
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Waiting List
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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 3:12 pm

Lee Dickson is having a stormer. He links the game and brings everyone into it better than anyone but Will Genia.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:14 pm

Farrell is just not a centre, offers very little and stifles play.

Needs a good run at 10 and could be world class if he gets an attacking game

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 3:17 pm

I wouldn't say he stifles play Pooly, that is stretching it a bit far. He needs to add a running game to be an attacking threat and make defenders have to think a bit when he is at 12. His distribution is very good, he just needs to vary his game a bit and be less structured, although that is always going to be difficult as it's the way he is coached to play at Sarries.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:22 pm

That's the reason he stiffes play Pete, he has little running threat so opp defence know he's going to pass/Kick (usually kick).

He has a good pass off both hands but this is negated by the fact he passes 10m before the defence gets anywhere near him, he's a shifter rather than a passer.

I'm not a fan of Farrell in the centres at all

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 3:25 pm

Be interesting to see if it's care or Dickson who is first choice for England against south Africa.

We have 2 scrum halves in great form same as at 15 can only be gOod for England.

I think they should have left youngs at home as a bit of a kick up the batty

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 27 May 2012, 3:26 pm

He's clearly a quick learner and mentally tough, so I think given a run of games at 12 he would settle in and work out what he needs to do. His main problem is that Saracens keep shifting him around between 10,12 and 13 which means he is not learning his trade in any of those positions as he never gets to play there for long enough.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:28 pm

Agree Pete although I don't think he'll ever be a good 12

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 3:29 pm

Think it's the same with Joc also they need to settle on a position for him. Both great players

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:31 pm

I like Dickson a lot but he's hardly been on form for Saints

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 3:36 pm

He was excellent until about April and then slipped off a bit like most of saints players.

Saints went to pieces a little.

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:36 pm

Tagicakibau against Wade , could get interesting.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 3:37 pm

Hartley to me looks to have lost weight and is playing better for it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:37 pm

Yea it was a funny season for them

See Ferris out of NZ tour Matt? Really wanted to see him up against the best after a great season

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:38 pm

Great offload Lualala
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:39 pm

I'm only on first half, Donald is carrying his Bath form into this one though...he's dire

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:41 pm

I'v never seen Botha play this well before.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 3:42 pm

I think Mouritz Botha is the stand out player from Lancaster's short tenure. Been a huge success.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:43 pm

Just seen the Farrell attempted attack with Botha on wing....that is terrible.

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:45 pm

Wade like a 7 on the deck!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:51 pm

Chris's England players turning up well, better from Farrell!!

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Post by stnick88 Sun 27 May 2012, 3:53 pm

Farrell has had a stinker awful passing.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 3:56 pm

Just onto 2nd, Mullen on, big fan

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:56 pm

Stuart Barnes is so depressing as a bloke , slagging off the mexican wave.
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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 3:58 pm

great try Mike Tindall
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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 3:58 pm

Good tour for ferris to miss. I think Ireland may get hammered. Tindall through some awful tackling

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:00 pm

Ashton looking great, him and Barritt linking up really well.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 4:01 pm

Tom Johnson playing well. Dissapointed with Fearns. He could have gotten a back row spot with a better game today

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 4:01 pm

That was some try , great counter by Ashton
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:12 pm

Barritt & JJ looking good together, got a really nice balance

Wade showing up really well and Botha outstanding!

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 4:17 pm

Lee Mears making the most of his game time at 7.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:19 pm

Hartley has really sharpened up, looks in great shape. Very impressed

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 4:21 pm

After this game, I think the side for two weeks time will be (one's I think should be playing in brackets.

1. Alex Corbisiero
2. Dylan Hartley
3. Dan Cole
4. Mouritz Botha
5. Geoff Parling
6. Tom Johnson
7. Chris Robshaw (c)
8. Ben Morgan
9. Lee Dickson
10. Owen Farrell (Flood)
11. David Strettle (Brown)
12. Brad Barritt
13. Manu Tuilagi (Joseph)
14. Chris Ashton
15. Ben Foden

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 4:21 pm

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:Lee Mears making the most of his game time at 7.


By getting ran over by lakafia. Mears always physically second best. Decent darts but offers less than nowt in the scrum. Done well to become a professional at his size. Hartley was excellent and jj showed his class

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 4:22 pm

Agree Steve although would rathe foden wing with brown fb if we did that

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 4:23 pm

They were talking again about Tuilagi playing on the wing. Could be interesting to see what happens there.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 4:24 pm

I prefer Foden's positional play and under the high ball and as a defender so would rather him be the safer hands at 15.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:25 pm

Bet he'd still make a better 10 than Donald though Matt, how is he a rugby player?!?!

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 4:35 pm

He was not great today that's for sure. Bet he will have a decent season next. If not i will release him. He is 3rd choice for me.

When did you sign Mears ?? Thought with you defending him you must have bought him so just checked.

You were never much of a fan before.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:39 pm

Hardly defending him saying he'd make a better 10 than Donald lol

I think we both know you knew I had him Wink

We have serious depth at 1, 9, 13, 15 judging by today's game.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:44 pm

Goode & JJ had belters from the bench, just finished game.

Pointless game but some good positives, especially from the youngsters

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 27 May 2012, 4:45 pm

Just popped on the Pro12 final. I'd love to smack Jonny Sexton right across his face. Just so slapable

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 4:45 pm

Shane other positions are not the same. Hooker looking better with gray as back up and a few coming through.

12 is our worst position we have nobody coming through same As at 8 after Morgan cupboard is bare

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 4:48 pm

With you there. Grays darts were shocking yesterday mind (usually solid, off game???)

Farrell at 12 experiment needs to stop here

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 4:48 pm

See we say this and for all we know they could be plenty of wonder kids coming through at 8 and 12. Never can predict the future.

I remember watching a video on youtube of a 14 year old kid kick a 60 metre goal and people commenting saying all he can do is kick the leather off it and won't go far. That kid is now 19 and being lined up for the boks 10 jersey. Johan Goosen
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 4:56 pm

Was really impressed with JJ today - very clever player and real gas.

What is it with Dowson though and getting injured for England - looked nasty, apparently shoulder could have gone.

Thought Hartley was motm today.

Lancaster needs to do something about the Hodgson/Farrell/Barritt combination though. Don't think Hodgson is good enough 10, Farrell far from an international centre and Barritt doesnt offer anything really in attack, but defence is incredible.

Would quite like to see Strettle dropped I think.

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Post by Driver Sun 27 May 2012, 5:07 pm

Dowsen is fine according to Rugby World Twitter
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Post by dammit_chris Sun 27 May 2012, 7:27 pm

Anyone watching the Wigan v St Helens game - 3 red cards...

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 8:09 pm

Sad news a really good guy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-18229721

Nigel Evans has also signed as Gloucester coach

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 27 May 2012, 8:22 pm

Happy with that?

Plays some lovely rugby

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 9:35 pm

Produces teams with no
Forwards so no change there. Could be good for may sharples etc. not a bad appointment. Just need to sack Hogg our forward coach

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