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Waiting List
1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 04 Jun 2012, 4:53 pm

Not seen much of Billy V before but he looks a bit lazy watching this.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:02 pm

Vunipola needs to work on his fitness - does a surprising amount that you don't see on tv but if he got conditioned properly he's a talent. Would currently say that he has a physique that means he needs to rest a fair amount or chew on a burger or two.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:04 pm

Vunipola is an excellent carrier. I think he could be very good in a few years.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:07 pm

That Sinklair is a very very good player - reckon he'll be next top one through the Quins talent line.

Got a lot better since Mills has come on - classy player.

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:12 pm

Mills is a massive prospect for Gloucester so much time
On the ball and really creative.

Vuno is lazy off the ball but was very good for
Wasps this year.

Agree re snickler

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:21 pm

Think Billy is garbage myself, such heads down rugby, has no brain

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:27 pm

Considering they haven't played well to get 9 tries isn't bad at all. From time we made the front five changes we've looked good - would probably like to see Ben Nutley and Jamie Elliott start - Wouldn't mind seeing Tommy Bell play at 10.

Mills opens up games - with the front five I think we can challenge most teams.


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:31 pm

Pooly - Vunipola is known for his carrying, offloading and positioning - clever player, just the shape of Stuart Barnes and Andy Goode.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:35 pm

Just think he's dire Chris, seems to just get turned over all the time. Would prefer Sisi at 8

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:40 pm

Think they will start mills and interchange robson and spencer as necessary.

Think Heathcote will start 10 and back 3 picks itself. Hope our backrow balance is looked at. Overall not a bad start

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 5:42 pm

Looking forward to watching it, we usually start quite slow anyway.

Mills starting at 12 would make more sense with Slade or Hearhcote at 10. Not sure who at 13 though

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:27 pm

You lot have talked up this Saffas side something rotten. They have been pretty useless so far!

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:32 pm

What's the score for saffas so far???


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:33 pm

sa 3 -13 Ireland

Ireland are very decent

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:35 pm

Wow that's unbelievable.

SA are missing a few but on paper should slaughter Ireland

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:36 pm

Boks have been woeful

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:37 pm

The Boks getting outplayed - they have the most s15 experience out of all the southern hem teams, so were expected to do very well.

A lot of friends in NZ told me that their team wasnt very good this year and I think they scored 70 odd points v Samoa without conceding.

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 6:47 pm

Look at people like willemse Kitschoff etc who have been
Having great super 15
Tournaments.

Really really surprising. The nz 10 was meant to be very good

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:21 pm

Poor Bok performance but credit to Ireland who look very up for it.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:23 pm

Massive win for the Irish

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:25 pm

What was the Irish team? Missed all rugby this weekend
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Post by Driver Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:26 pm

Besides Wales game
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:31 pm

henderson and hannaran both excellent along with the backrow.

Nobody from the Saffers looked good at all really.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:36 pm

Bad day at the office for them. I suspect they may have been a bit complacent.

Hanrahan was on my wanted list for the summer and I am guessing that it may end up a bidding war now that he's played well against the Boks! Crying or Very sad
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 04 Jun 2012, 7:39 pm

Hes my next stop!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:14 pm

Just watching game, Robson's basics are awful! Slade has one thing on Ford, he can kick at goal, lovely technique.

Sisi & Yarde look very good, Billy V will never make the step up imo. He's typical of a lot of our players at this level...loads of physicality but lack brains and skill.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:16 pm

I think Sisi could have a big future. His best position for me is number 8.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:22 pm

I'd def drop Billy V and put him at 8, looks quality. Robson is electric but needs to tidy up.

Heathcote passenger at 12

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:23 pm

Ford is a great kicker. Robsons basics are very
Sound although could do with a bit of work on box kick. Think because pack were generating such toss ball and getting hammered at breakdown it was difficult for him. He was a
Mix of sheer class and terrible at the same time today. His break for the first try and awareness at the back for his own try were good.

Think we will see a different side for next games and will bring In Heathcote to ten for game management and mills
At 12 for game management and creativity

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:31 pm

So many targets left for
Foreigns. This squad of 40 will be no probs with all young talent out there. Problem is when they start maturing

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:44 pm

Robsons passing from base was horrendous, box kicking worse. Slade looked Farrellesqe at times in poor distribution but fantastic goal kicking.

See what Chris meant with Cowen-Dickie, good carrier but looked for offload every time.

We looked nervous and will def improve

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:50 pm

It was the sheer lack of Attacking intent from slade that disappointed. We picked an attacking 9 and backline and then had
An ultra conservative 10. If we want to play sarries rugby then spencer and slade should be 9 and 10


Our pack needs a real shake up to deliver good ball. Billy v spurring and Cowan dickie need to know how to present a ball. They allowed Italians to slow our ball down so much.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:55 pm

Robson spoiled everything for me, when the SH can't pass there's nothing to go off. We looked great when he ran but constantly passed behind the man. He just kept running across the line offering nothing.

Pack looked ok, set piece went well. I'd start Spencer and Mills and settle on FH.

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:56 pm

Italian 3 was a handful when he was on and had cowie in trouble. Some unit that Italian 3

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:58 pm

He was huge! First few hits had CD in all sorts of issues but thought CD got on top after 20 mins. Has good technique rather than raw power

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 9:59 pm

Thing is your meant to give your scrum half good ball and of
Playing attacking rugby your ten needs to stand flatter.

Slade stood so
Deep.

It's the same as when you were bagging genia. Sh needs help from pack and 10 for it to work. Now reds are producing quality ball genia back to best form

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:03 pm

1. Luke Cowan-Dickie
2. Koree Britton
3. Kyle Sinckler
4. Dom Barrow
5. Sam Twomney
6. David Sisi
7. Chris Walker (correction)
8. Jack Clifford
9. Dan Robson
10. Tom Heathcote
11. Marland Yarde
12. Ryan Mills
13. Will Addison
14. Charlie Walker
15. Ben Ransom

Is probably the strongest side in my view.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:04 pm

Doesn't explain for Robson passing behind players, his basics are Simpsonesqe although just as electric.

Could be mustard if he learns to pass

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

That Clifford must be some player Steve to play 7 and 8.
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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

Agree Steve 100% although would not pick Clifford
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:05 pm

Slade's third choice 10 really - both Heathcote and Bell are better. It's tough for Slade to develop though as gets zero game time at Exeter.

Robson had a mixed game - half his passing was slow the other half was quick - was by no means our first team today, prob be 5-6 changes for the Ireland game easily - whole frOnt row, reckon Nutley to help with breakdOwn and then Heathcote, Mills, Walker to 13 and then Ransom and ElliOt in backthree

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

Think the whole Simpson has no basics thing is a bit of a strange one as his basics are now very good because he gets coached by bracken - got a v good all round game, box kicking, better passing and game management all good.

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Post by Guest Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:15 pm

With simpson basics are very good
It's just option taking where he
Can sometimes
Struggle. Was
Playing well before
Injury. Could
Well be in a 4 way shoot
For england 9.
At
Moment Would be 1 Dickson 2 care 3 youngs 4 wiggles/ Simpson

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:19 pm

Nothing strange, Simpsons is all over place and has never really improved. He's really slipping down England pecking order.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:19 pm

He used to get isolated all the time at Wasps but this season was improving that.

Would love to see Simpson behind a top pack - sure if he played behind the Tiger pack and got an arm chair ride then people would be singing his praises week in week out.

Hope wasps pack improves next year

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:24 pm

1. Youngs or Care
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3. Dickson
4. Wiggles
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5. K Dickson
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6. Simpson
7. Spencer

Care & Youngs so far ahead of others, then same again with Dickson & Wiggles

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Post by Driver Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:27 pm

Sooo

I'm going to stick my neck out and say England to win next Saturday
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:28 pm

Current pecking order is Dickson, Care, Youngs, Simpson, K Dickson and RW for me.

We are both bored of this argument but the suggestion that Youngs or Care are 'so far ahead' of Dickson is garbage

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:30 pm

Not really garbage lol....just opinion.

I like Dickson, good steady scrum half.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 04 Jun 2012, 10:34 pm

Care comfortably for first choice nine for me. Tough call for bench, both good impact.

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