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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:28 am

Oh I'm with you now Pete - just read that it was based on age etc. Gone away without my contact lenses, so everything is a bit harder to read!

Wont be hard to sort out!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:25 am

Anyone know when the teams for the weekends test matches are due to be announced?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:39 am

SA today, us tomorrow

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:46 am

really interested to see Meyer's line up.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:15 am

Rumours Lambie on Bench

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:20 am

Wouldn't surprise me. Morne will be at 10, Frans Steyn and JDV in midfield, so it will only be 15 or bench for Lambie and he had areally poor game at 15 for the Sharks against the Lions last time out.
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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:20 am

who will be 15? kirchner?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:21 am

Probably, he is a Bull after all. This Boks side is likely to have distinctly blue tinge to it!
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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:34 am

SA fans are going nuts about Kirchner likely starting. even bulls fans would not pick him

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:38 am

Meyer will go with who he knows. Wouldn't be surprised if Kruger starts over Jannie at tighthead, although he might just stick with he Sharks front row.

Flip and Kruger in the engine room. Coetzee, Alberts and Spies in the back row.

Bulls halfback pairing.

Frabs Steyn and JDV in midfield.

Habana, JP Pietersen and Kirchner the back 3.

I will be surprised if it's any different to that.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:41 am

South Africa team is up

http://www.therugbyblog.co.uk/south-africa-team-to-play-england-in-1st-test

Only one I got wrong was Etzebeth starts with Flip on the bench.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:41 am

How Wynand Olivier is in the 22 is beyond me.
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Post by Driver Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:49 am

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Some big calls – having Habana and Pietersen on the wings when they’ve been at 13 all season seems crazy with Mvovo and Basson playing well. Also how Olivier made the bench is incredible.




See the staffers agree Pete!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:59 am

I said etzebeth would start ahead of flip

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:01 pm

England to win the first test?

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:17 pm

Looking to raise some cash for foreigns so if anyones interesting in boosting EQ have the following available:

Olly Barkley
Simon McIntyre (academy)
Dan Mugford (academy)

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:31 pm

JP has played more at wing than 13, but thought they would of gone basson over him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:51 pm

Big fan of JP, he's looked good this season

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Post by Driver Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:56 pm

Whos everyone backing in the Euros? Iv got £10 on Russia at 20-1
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:58 pm

Can't see past Spain, Gemany or an outside bet on the French. Or six 1-0 wins and England could do it!

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Post by Driver Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:15 pm

Im a optimistic better at best , had Danny Simpson down to make the squad and didn't!
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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:27 pm

What do people think the England team will be? Apparently Strettle and Corbs havent trained this week, so might not be there, and I dont think Haskell can due to some jet lag rule or something, if so...

1. Marler
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Botha
5. Parling
6. Dowson?
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan
9. Dickson
10. Farrell
11. Wade?
12. Barritt
13. Tuilagi
14. Ashton
15. Foden

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:39 pm

Monye over Wade but I imagine that would be the side

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:42 pm

Personally think I'd have Flood at no10 as Farrell just can't get that midfield attacking properly.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:56 pm

1. Corbs
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Botha
5. Parling
6. Johnson
7. Robshaw
8. Morgan

9. Care
10. Farrell
11. Monye
12. Barritt
13. Tuilagi
14. Ashton
15. Foden

Marler, Grey, Palmer, Dowson, Youngs, Flood, Brown


What I'd like to see.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:58 pm

I'd like to see Haskell in there, give us another ball carrier - sounds like he's been getting good reviews in NZ too.

I just really worry about the lack of creativity in the 10-12 channel we have - to get the best out of Tuilagi we need a creative 10 or 12.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:59 pm

If Strettle is struggling I wouldn't be surprised to see JJ start on the wing.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:03 pm

Or Tuilagi...?

Expecting Nonu on the wing for the AB's with their wing injuries and form of SBW. They could also go Carter at 12 with Cruden at 10.

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:09 pm

Haskell wont play first test which is a shame as means Dowson will play.
Could do with Haskells physicality.

Think it was Barnes saying Foden might go wing with Brown at 15.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:12 pm

That's probably the most likely option actually nick.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:30 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Personally think I'd have Flood at no10 as Farrell just can't get that midfield attacking properly.

I'm going to frame that comment lol

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:34 pm

We have a chance what an unbalanced team for saffers.

Starting Coetzee is a massive call as is Steyn at 13. They are going to try and strangle the game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:35 pm

Steyn's at 12 and JDV at 13

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:40 pm

Either way it's wrong you play one or other at 12. None of them are 13s great defensively though.

Would have put Steyn at 15 and had jdv and jdj who are great together

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:43 pm

I think Steyn is outstanding 12, little big these days for 15 I think. Seem him play 13 a few times for Metro and he didn't look great.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:47 pm

Both him and jdv are wc 12s.

Jdv slightly better for me but both great players.

Steyn much better kicking game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:57 pm

Steyn a beast of a carrier too, watched him drag 3 men about 20 metres the other week

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Post by stnick88 Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:12 pm

have rich baxter and beauxis going very cheap if anyone wants them.

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:23 pm

Steyn like jdv great carriers. Think jdv just better due to defence and intercepts

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:26 pm

15. Israel Dagg, 14. Zac Guildford, 13. Conrad Smith, 12. Sonny Bill Williams, 11. Julian Savea, 10. Dan Carter, 9. Aaron Smith; 1. Tony Woodcock, 2. Andrew Hore, 3. Owen Franks, 4. Brodie Retallick, 5. Sam Whitelock, 6. Victor Vito, 7. Richie McCaw (c), 8. Kieran Read

Replacements:

16. Hika Elliott, 17. Ben Franks, 18. Ali Williams, 19. Adam Thomson, 20. Piri Weepu, 21. Aaron Cruden, 22. Ben Smith

Ireland could get humped!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:29 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:15. Israel Dagg, 14. Zac Guildford, 13. Conrad Smith, 12. Sonny Bill Williams, 11. Julian Savea, 10. Dan Carter, 9. Aaron Smith; 1. Tony Woodcock, 2. Andrew Hore, 3. Owen Franks, 4. Brodie Retallick, 5. Sam Whitelock, 6. Victor Vito, 7. Richie McCaw (c), 8. Kieran Read

Replacements:

16. Hika Elliott, 17. Ben Franks, 18. Ali Williams, 19. Adam Thomson, 20. Piri Weepu, 21. Aaron Cruden, 22. Ben Smith

Ireland could are gonna get humped!

Fixed that there for you Pooly Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:35 pm

Haha....I don't even know if I dare watch it

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:43 pm

I was reading earlier that nz are going to rotate their back 3 in the tournament so gear next week and maybe smith 15

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:58 pm

I think we'll see Thompson, Cruden & Smith all get starts over the next few weeks. Think Nonu will be rested, he needs it the amount of rugby he's played over past year

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:50 pm

Surely nz have a better player than Thompson. Great s 15 player but consistently average at international level.

So many exciting talents more deserving of a chance.

He is like a good phil dowson!!

I like vito as a player often plays well at international level

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Post by Guest Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:51 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I think we'll see Thompson, Cruden & Smith all get starts over the next few weeks. Think Nonu will be rested, he needs it the amount of rugby he's played over past year


Sbw been in great form do deserves starting place.. Nonu always peaks and troughs and has 1 great season followed by one indifferent one

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:09 pm

You like slating Thomson don't you Matt... Had a pretty good world cup didn't he? Form blindside of super rugby for the last 2 years now not his fault he has come through same time as Kaino really is it? Who are all these more deserving talents?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:51 pm

I think Matt doesn't like Thompson is because he isn't a typical BS (massive carrier etc)

I'm a big Thompson fan, he's such a terrier at the breakdown and a great support player. Horses for courses though I guess

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:49 am

Sounds like Marler, Johnson and Brown to start with Foden moving to wing.

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Post by Guest Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:12 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:You like slating Thomson don't you Matt... Had a pretty good world cup didn't he? Form blindside of super rugby for the last 2 years now not his fault he has come through same time as Kaino really is it? Who are all these more deserving talents?


Sje as I said in my comment. Great s15 player average international.

That game in the tri nations when samo embarrassed him sums it up for me.

He is decent lineout and breakdown but not outstanding. His versatility is the reason he has been capped in my opinion. I would have vito every day over him

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