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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 23 May 2012, 10:27 am

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Fantasy Aviva Premiership Current League Table

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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2 Homepage - Page 10 48Exeter Chiefs0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 Homepage - Page 10 2Gloucester000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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5 Homepage - Page 10 4Leicester Tigers000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6 Homepage - Page 10 5London Irish0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7 Homepage - Page 10 6London Wasps000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8 Homepage - Page 10 8Newcastle Falcons000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9 Homepage - Page 10 9Northampton Saints000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
10 Homepage - Page 10 12Sale Sharks0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
11 Homepage - Page 10 11Saracens000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 00
12 Homepage - Page 10 57Worcester Warriors000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0





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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 30 May 2012, 7:43 pm

sorry pressed that too early.

Youngs was in no way good on saturday for the first 60 mins then he got better, but breaks aren't the be all and end all of a scrum half. To me they are a bonus once if the guy can control the game.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 30 May 2012, 7:49 pm

Tuilagi rock in defence for Tigers but apart from 2-3 runs he didn't do anything in attack and ran bad lines. he kept Lowe quiet, but otherwise not a lot!

Don't think any of the Tigers big names turned up at all - credit to Quins

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 30 May 2012, 7:56 pm

Anybody watch the Toulon/Metro game at weekend? Absolute dross

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 30 May 2012, 7:58 pm

nah. Watched Montpellier v Castres which wasn't upto much either

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 30 May 2012, 8:02 pm

Was a hell of a lot better than Toulon game, Gits played well but Toulon were pump.

Welsh Pirates on now

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Post by Driver Wed 30 May 2012, 8:11 pm

Rob Cook should be in the AP by now!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 30 May 2012, 9:07 pm

Dave Ward should be banned for a very long time. That is sickening

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 30 May 2012, 10:46 pm

Looked nasty didnt it - the Welsh guy could have been blinded, missed his eye by mm's.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 30 May 2012, 10:54 pm

If meant dave ward'll have the book thrown at him bear in mind that slow-mo always looks worse! Glad Cook did ok but Welsh were more clinical. Lahiff stuggled again, always hits with shoulders below hips. Time for Falcons to sweat...Pooly/Driver, what would you rather?
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Post by stnick88 Wed 30 May 2012, 11:42 pm

Lahiff will learn. Like marler did. Technique will come. I didn't see any t14 on weekend but saw espn headline along the lines of armitage rescues Toulon! Smile

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 May 2012, 9:40 am

Prop are you wanting Lon Welsh to come up?

I can't see the legal battle being completed by the start of the new season at all - going to be a tough summer for both Welsh and Newcastle I think.

Not a fan of Lon Welsh at all, played a few games for them when I was 20/21 and got messsed around a bit by them!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 31 May 2012, 9:43 am

I suspect Newcastle would have a strong legal case also after being told they were staying up.

Not a fan of bringing lawyers into sport, Welsh should just suck it up.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 May 2012, 10:02 am

They should have dealt with all these issues 6months ago as they knew what the laws were then. Dont like them at all

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 31 May 2012, 10:20 am

I'm pretty torn on whether I want Welsh to come up to be honest and can see both sides of the argument. If you win the Championship, you should get promoted, that's the bottom line for me, but I can see the merits of the argument that they should have sorted this months ago, there must have been some sort of deadline, as it is ridiculous that the season is over and we are still not 100% certain who will be in which division next season.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 31 May 2012, 2:07 pm

Looking for academy aged winger(s) if anyone is selling.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 31 May 2012, 2:18 pm

I have the feeling that this is going to run for a while...

https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150941027587369

Not good for the game really.
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Post by Driver Thu 31 May 2012, 3:48 pm

Pascal Pape named France captain.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 31 May 2012, 3:49 pm

only for the tour presumably.

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Post by Driver Thu 31 May 2012, 3:53 pm

There's no Dus in the squad so i imagine so.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 31 May 2012, 3:53 pm

They've called up Michalak as well I understand which is a little surprising.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 31 May 2012, 4:47 pm

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1m for descriptive prediction
£0.5m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by dammit_chris Thu 31 May 2012, 8:43 pm

Guys off on holiday tomorrow for 2 weeks, not sure how long I will be away for but should possibly still be able to get online.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 31 May 2012, 11:18 pm

These cash injections do not take effect until 12:00 tomorrow (Friday). I am putting them up now as have a busy day tomorrow so might not get on to post them.

Leicester Tigers - £51 million
London Irish - £51 million
Harlequins - £53 million
Sale Sharks - £57 million
Northampton Saints - £59 million
Bath Rugby - £63 million
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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:24 am

can i get peoples opinions on Johann Muller and Netani Talei??

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:28 am

Muller is proven quality for me, Talei had a good season but is a bit like Andy Powell for me, all bosh and little else, and I will have to see how he goes next season before deciding on if he is a very good player or just a good player who had a very good season.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:31 am

Just seen that I get to see Gorgodze in action tomorrow versus Wales!! Can't blydi wait!!

Also what a people's views on Kyle Godwin and Harry Leonard?


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:44 am

Mullet is strong, considered him myself.

What do people make of Ryan Crotty?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:46 am

Jamie Heaslip is availible to offers. Looking for a backrower who is availible all year round to build a deal around.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:52 am

You reckon Muller would make a good partner for Garvey or Kendo?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Jun 2012, 12:40 pm

Good player Muller, think he had best lineout stats in HC?!?!

Crotty wouldn't improve you I don't think Luke

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Jun 2012, 1:02 pm

We've signed Chris York!

Very happy with that.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:34 pm

Launchbury out injured so Gibson in.

Also, I know Pete's been quite busy today so any chance someone of authority could approve these two:
prop_lyd - Paul James - £18 million (31/05/12 - 13:49)

dammit_chris - Ashley Beck - £13 million (31/05/12 - 13:45)

Means I can get in another bid before the weekend!!
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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:41 pm

REJECTED

RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!!

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:43 pm

Screw you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:47 pm

Gibson in???

Is that Jamie Gibson in Eng tour??? Bloody hope not

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Post by stnick88 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:52 pm

Yeh very suprised by that.

Reckon Garvey would of gone ahead of Gibson but has an operation so cant.

Gibson too lightweight would get mullered out in SA.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:52 pm

Will be home in the next hour and will sort out foreign bids then.
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 4:53 pm

Ok no worry's pull, sorry thought you were busy all day!
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Post by Guest Fri 01 Jun 2012, 5:02 pm

What has Dave ward done?? I know him and his dad quite well
and he
Is
Not a
Dirty player. Would be surprised?? That said in
The heat of a game sometimes the unthinkable happens
And the player has to live with his stupid actions

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 5:14 pm

Matt: basically he kicked out at a L.W player who was holding his leg on the ground and connected just below his eye. I was shocked by it too.

What do you make of Redpath?
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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 5:15 pm

This'll help:
http://www.rolling-maul.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8294&SID=0417442ac2f2d967bf35fabe512e67186689815&title=dave-wards-kick
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Post by Guest Fri 01 Jun 2012, 7:09 pm

Interesting prop. If someone grabs your balls you would kick out.

Good riddance to Redpath. His recruiting was shocking. Not excited by Nigel Davies though as his record with forwards is shocking

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 01 Jun 2012, 11:50 pm

I know! I'd rather Jon Plumtree to be honest!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:48 am

That is awful defence from Cruden.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 8:50 am

follows it with a lovely little grubber kick for a try

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:13 am

Weren't stopping Sonny Bill for that try!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 02 Jun 2012, 9:18 am

Blues starting to look like s rugby team.

Lovely work for the try by ranger

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:follows it with a lovely little grubber kick for a try


That's what you get with cruden. He is a serious talent ball in hand and kicking but gets brushed aside with regularity in the tackle. He is tiny so it's hard to improve that much. Having 2 monster centres does help though

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Post by Guest Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:42 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:follows it with a lovely little grubber kick for a try


That's what you get with cruden. He is a serious talent ball in hand and kicking but gets brushed aside with regularity in the tackle. He is tiny so it's hard to improve that much. Having 2 monster centres does help though

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 02 Jun 2012, 11:50 am

I dont think his defence is as bad as your making it out to be Matt. Yeah in his first Super rugby season he was brushed of with ease but after having that spell with the All Blacks Henry and co told him to go away and work on his defence and its improved dramastically. Yes hes going to get caught occasionaly, like any flyhalf really, but not as regularly as you make out. And what he brings in attack more then makes up for any small lapse in defence anyway.

Was very torn letting him go as he looks the new long term All Black 10 but no need for 2 world class flyhalfs with the new squad limits.

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