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Post by TwisT Tue 29 May 2012, 3:58 pm

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TACTICS NEED TO BE IN THIS WEDNESDAY (11PM) FOR THE FIRST WEEK OF SEASON 2


Everyone in Premier League (who votes on Championship) send their results to:
TwisT and Sodhat


Everyone in Championship (who votes on Premier League) send their results to:
Hero and TSC


To Qualify for the £2M Bonus, teams need to post their tactics by Midnight on Wednesday and PM their results by Midnight on Friday

Premier League

Real Ale Sociedad - TwisT The London Silly Nannies - SodhatAC ALittleSilhouetteoOfAMan (AC ALSOAM) - MarkyViva City - VivaPaulScholesCunning Canaries FC - ollyrules
AFC Swamp Donkeys - fernando Borussia Munchingballsack - Sainty


FC United of Bournemouth Town and Boscombe City Wanderers Athletic Football Club - cherriesfan


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Athletico Bilbao Baggins FC - HeroJacamos United - TSCFC Furious - nick_furySporting Sideburns FC - Gav Treble's Revenge - onlytreblewinners
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Post by Marky Wed 30 May 2012, 2:16 pm

TM says Lucas Moura is primarily an AM yet he's a winger.

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 2:17 pm

Nah I take it with a pinch of salt. Javi Martinez is down as a CB and we all know he's much, much better in midfield than CB.

no no, hes down as one so he can play just as well as one.

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Post by The Special Juan Wed 30 May 2012, 2:20 pm

I know he can play at CB but he's still a better midfielder.
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Post by Afro Wed 30 May 2012, 2:21 pm

nick_fury wrote:
Nah I take it with a pinch of salt. Javi Martinez is down as a CB and we all know he's much, much better in midfield than CB.

no no, hes down as one so he can play just as well as one.

TBH why watch football and form your own opinions. That site tells you everything you need to know about football Laugh
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Post by Afro Wed 30 May 2012, 2:22 pm

TSC wrote:I know he can play at CB but he's still a better midfielder.

He is a really good CB as well though. I wouldn't like to call his best position....Mmmm

Probably CM, but only just
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Post by The Special Juan Wed 30 May 2012, 2:24 pm

We'll compromise - DM!
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Post by Afro Wed 30 May 2012, 2:26 pm

TSC wrote:We'll compromise - DM!

Okay, agreed Ok!Laugh
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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 2:28 pm

Is Bielsa the first non-Basque coach of Bilbao?

I would have thought the Basque only rule would apply to everybody at the club.

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 2:29 pm

I know he can play at CB but he's still a better midfielder.
We'll compromise - DM!
Heck NO!!! Ive seen him run int he box and scaore, hes a striker.

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Post by Afro Wed 30 May 2012, 2:31 pm

sodhat wrote:Is Bielsa the first non-Basque coach of Bilbao?

I would have thought the Basque only rule would apply to everybody at the club.

Easy one for me. Definately not. Howard Kendall left Everton in 1986 to coach them
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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 2:32 pm

Tactics up. Good luck Cherries OK

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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 2:33 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
sodhat wrote:Is Bielsa the first non-Basque coach of Bilbao?

I would have thought the Basque only rule would apply to everybody at the club.

Easy one for me. Definately not. Howard Kendall left Everton in 1986 to coach them

Really?

How did that turn out for him? Seems an odd choice to me! The only manager of theirs I could name is Javier Clemente from the past.

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Post by Hero Wed 30 May 2012, 2:36 pm

Rumour doing the rounds that Arsenal want to buy Anderson off Utd.

Can I drive him there myself to sign?

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Post by The Special Juan Wed 30 May 2012, 2:45 pm

Arsenal - Buying everyone else's crap since Silvestre.
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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 2:49 pm

Martinez turned Liverpool down apparently and Rodgers is now nailed on. Right choice for me, it seems they are going for a real continental structure and just want a head coach, and I can't think of many better suited to embedding a style throughout the teams.

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Post by Marky Wed 30 May 2012, 2:52 pm

Anderson isn't a bad player, being out injured hasn't helped him, and neither was being in the side pwned by Crawley Town in 2011...

Side note, in my mind I still see Matt Tubbs' overhead kick and Richard Brodie's header going in instead of being deflected over and hitting the bar respectively!

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Post by Fernando Wed 30 May 2012, 2:53 pm

I actually quite like Anderson he's just not suited to United.

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Post by Hero Wed 30 May 2012, 3:01 pm

He's suited to the United treatment table, been on it that much the towels have Turin Shroud style image of him imprinted on them.

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 3:03 pm

Rumour doing the rounds that Arsenal want to buy Anderson off Utd.
Can I drive him there myself to sign?
What for, to sit on their treatment table and not ours?

Saying that, I like Ando, think he could be a great player, strong on the ball, tenacious. I remember the match against Arsenal where he kept Cescelona under locks. But sadly he just has injury problems and never got a run of games to get going.

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 3:06 pm

Sorry but arent Russ' tactics a bit long? More than 15 bullet points/lines/sentences there. His team talk is like 6 not 2.

Rules state: "maximum of 15 bullet point lines worth of team instructions.
As well as the tactical instructions you are allowed 2 extra lines of a team talk"

Sorry Russ but id get penalised if I did it.

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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 3:11 pm

Yeah, sorry Russ, you're going to have to cut those down.

Between 15-20 lines is the limit for team instructions and generally 2 or 3 lines are tolerated for the team talk.


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Post by Russell_Elmo Wed 30 May 2012, 3:18 pm

oh woops sorry I got bit carried away the other night :P

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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:18 pm

Is the below a fair comment for Dempsey or am I overpricing him:

I don't see how he is over priced, when people rate him on here. If used correctly he is able to get goals everygame (read the results of last season if you don't believe me).

If you can find a quality RM that guarentees you getting goals on here for less than £25m, then go ahead and find him mate.

For some of the prices being banded about I really think £25m for a scoring right midfielder (not even using him as a AM) that gets goals on here is a fair price to pay.


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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 3:19 pm

Russell_Elmo wrote:oh woops sorry I got bit carried away the other night :P

No worries, it's better for you that Nick pointed it out otherwise it may have had people mark you down on goals

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Post by Afro Wed 30 May 2012, 3:23 pm

sodhat wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:
sodhat wrote:Is Bielsa the first non-Basque coach of Bilbao?

I would have thought the Basque only rule would apply to everybody at the club.

Easy one for me. Definately not. Howard Kendall left Everton in 1986 to coach them

Really?

How did that turn out for him? Seems an odd choice to me! The only manager of theirs I could name is Javier Clemente from the past.

Not great. He got sacked after a couple of seasons I think.

He had a big reputation because he had built that Everton side into one of the strongest teams in Europe. They came looking and he was frustrated at lack of European games because of the ban, so he went.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 May 2012, 3:25 pm

Cherries you really think I'm so stupid that I will sign Butland for 500K off you?? I will just sign another English goalkeeping prodigy later tonight, and you can keep Butland! #backfiredonyourass

Sorry I didn't realise it was minimum of 500K for a player, thought it was just there TM value tbh. As the funkasauras would say,"MY BAD!"

Done on my phone so apologies for any spelling mistakes.

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Post by Marky Wed 30 May 2012, 3:26 pm

Twist, Clint Dempsey is not worth £20m let alone £25m IMO.

Especially with Star Players and TP limits rising, why spend £25m on Dempsey when there's better players for less?

Obviously you can charge what you like, he's your player, but surely you can't be surprised no-one's paying your asking price, or are you surprised?!

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Post by Fernando Wed 30 May 2012, 3:28 pm

Tbh Twist i think uve missed the right time to offload him due to the star bid at end of season. Whilst he was scoring for fun people are now bring players in that can do that and your most likely see them scoring over him now.

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 3:32 pm

No worries, it's better for you that Nick pointed it out otherwise it may have had people mark you down on goals
That is true Russ. Some people will notice, not say anything then in the reasons say your tactics were too long so you were marked down.
If happened in the last week of season 1 too so it does happen.

TwisT, i say carry on demanding high. Dempsey £25m and Ade at £20m are bang on prices. Nothing wrong with them one bit........Smile

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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:33 pm

Name me better players on here that people will be willing to sell for less than £25m?

He is a RM that gets goals constantly in matches. You can play him on the right AND still have an AM (which will probably be man-marked by a CDM). You has ever placed tactics on here that says "mark the RM"?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 May 2012, 3:34 pm

TwisT wrote:Name me better players on here that people will be willing to sell for less than £25m?

He is a RM that gets goals constantly in matches. You can play him on the right AND still have an AM (which will probably be man-marked by a CDM). You has ever placed tactics on here that says "mark the RM"?

I tell my LM to track the RM as that is called defending Whistle
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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 3:35 pm

Nick - leave Ade out of this, he is a machine!

Twist - nando sold me Suarez for £25m which seemed fair. He's your player though, charge what you like.

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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 3:37 pm

ollyrules wrote:
TwisT wrote:Name me better players on here that people will be willing to sell for less than £25m?

He is a RM that gets goals constantly in matches. You can play him on the right AND still have an AM (which will probably be man-marked by a CDM). You has ever placed tactics on here that says "mark the RM"?

I tell my LM to track the RM as that is called defending Whistle

Good luck in our match by the way Olly, I never mentioned it earlier. My tactics are up and in.

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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:38 pm

You think? You need the right kind of player to track back and defend. It can't work with everyone. Try asking Robinho to track back for instance.

It is just simple facts. Highest scoring midfielder on here (and used on the right not as AM). There may well be better midfielders, but try and buy them for £25m.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 30 May 2012, 3:39 pm

sodhat wrote:
ollyrules wrote:
TwisT wrote:Name me better players on here that people will be willing to sell for less than £25m?

He is a RM that gets goals constantly in matches. You can play him on the right AND still have an AM (which will probably be man-marked by a CDM). You has ever placed tactics on here that says "mark the RM"?

I tell my LM to track the RM as that is called defending Whistle

Good luck in our match by the way Olly, I never mentioned it earlier. My tactics are up and in.

Good luck to you too OK

I think I will surprise a lot of people with my tactics and formation today Whistle
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Post by Marky Wed 30 May 2012, 3:39 pm

Dries Mertens, better and cheaper than Dempsey.
Lisandro Lopez, better and cheaper than Dempsey.
Jefferson Farfan, better and cheaper than Dempsey.

All my opinion rather than fact, but Dempsey being £25m is solely on your opinion Twist. The question is, would you honestly pay me £25m for Dempsey if I was selling him?

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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 3:42 pm

ollyrules wrote:I think I will surprise a lot of people with my tactics and formation today Whistle

If it's too surprising you're banned from the league...

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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:43 pm

You have named 3 strikers. Dempsey isn't a striker. I said midfielders.

And yes I would, if I wanted a right midfielder that scores goals. You got to remember he isn't just a TP I have made. He has been on here for most of season 1 and he scored in every match. Can you say the same about the players above?

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 3:45 pm

He is a RM that gets goals constantly in matches.
No hes not. Hes more a SS.

You need the right kind of player to track back and defend. It can't work with everyone. Try asking Robinho to track back for instance.
TwisT TwisT Twist, you need to understand in this league as its not realistic Robinho WILL track back and defend, he will in fact defend better than Chiellini. No messing, True Dat!!

Marky, none of them are as Dempsey plays in the Premier League. It is rated the highest league by people here so even Grant Holt is better than Lisandro Lopez. Come on people

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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:50 pm

Well I never used him as a SS, and you guys gave him the goals when he was used as a RM. Not me.

Maybe, suddenly (for some reason) he isn't rated on HERE anymore. That will be my burden to bear I suppose. But I can only go by his exploits in season 1 and that was down to half of you guys voting for it, not me bigging up a player that I have just brought via TP.

Dempsey = goals on here (at least it did in season 1)

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Post by Marky Wed 30 May 2012, 3:50 pm

Mertens - LM
Farfan - RM
Lopez - forward who can play on the wing

Twist, you asked the question, I don't rate him.

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Post by Trebs Wed 30 May 2012, 3:53 pm

Twist, he's your player so you have every right to charge whatever fee you want. Just because I offer even 25m, doesn't mean you have to accept it. Personally, I wouldn't pay that much for him.

Also, a couple of ideas regarding tactics:
1. PM them to a member of the other league. They then match the tactics together for the games so you don't have to keep scrolling up and down to find the teams?
2. A word limit instead of a bullet point limit. With bullets, you can make them any length, there's no specific amount. If it was a word limit, say 200 words, then you've either gone over or you haven't. Simples.

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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:56 pm

Ok, well he has suddenly gone down the pecking order then. Fickle bunch you are Wink

And Marky, of course you would not rate him. He got the goal that made Real Ale beat AC ALSOAM last season Laugh

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Post by Hero Wed 30 May 2012, 3:57 pm

Clint Dempsey

So last season.

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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 3:58 pm

onlytreblewinners wrote:Twist, he's your player so you have every right to charge whatever fee you want. Just because I offer even 25m, doesn't mean you have to accept it. Personally, I wouldn't pay that much for him.

Also, a couple of ideas regarding tactics:
1. PM them to a member of the other league. They then match the tactics together for the games so you don't have to keep scrolling up and down to find the teams?
2. A word limit instead of a bullet point limit. With bullets, you can make them any length, there's no specific amount. If it was a word limit, say 200 words, then you've either gone over or you haven't. Simples.

PMing tactics to a runner is something to talk about I think

Word limit I'm not keen on, I don't think there is a problem with the number of lines method used at the moment.

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 30 May 2012, 3:58 pm

Guys dont forget to post tactics.

Where do I post tactics?
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Post by TwisT Wed 30 May 2012, 3:59 pm

Hero wrote:Clint Dempsey

So last season.

Seems that way Laugh

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Post by Trebs Wed 30 May 2012, 3:59 pm

I'm not saying Dempsey's a bad player, but I have players who I'd prefer in my lineup. He has had a very good season which is worth noting.

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Post by nick_fury Wed 30 May 2012, 3:59 pm

isn't rated on HERE anymore
thats nbot your fault TwisT. This is how this league works. You get a player, talk him up so everyone thinks hes a badman, next thing you know someone else is in form IRL so you get him, talk him up to be a badman like Eden Hazard and he becomes the the lord holy christ until the next in form layer comes alone.
Heck the player dont even need to be in form, he just needs to have his name all over twitter and hes instantly better then a Hybrid Love Child of Ronaldo & Messi

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Post by sodhat Wed 30 May 2012, 4:01 pm

nick_fury wrote:
isn't rated on HERE anymore
thats nbot your fault TwisT. This is how this league works. You get a player, talk him up so everyone thinks hes a badman, next thing you know someone else is in form IRL so you get him, talk him up to be a badman like Eden Hazard and he becomes the the lord holy christ until the next in form layer comes alone.
Heck the player dont even need to be in form, he just needs to have his name all over twitter and hes instantly better then a Hybrid Love Child of Ronaldo & Messi

Not that you're bitter about Hazard or anything...

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