Ireland V All Blacks - Teams Announced and Matchday Thread

by clivemcl Thu 07 Jun 2012, 6:53 am

First topic message reminder :

IRELAND TEAM

15 - Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)
14 - Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
13 - Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster) (capt)
12 - Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)
11 - Simon Zebo (Cork Constitution/Munster) *
10 - Jonathan Sexton (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
9 - Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)
1 - Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)
2 - Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)
3 - Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon/Ulster) *
4 - Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)
5 - Donnacha Ryan (Shannon/Munster)
6 - Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)
7 - Sean O'Brien (Clontarf/Leinster)
8 - Jamie Heaslip (Naas/Leinster)

Replacements:

16 - Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
17 - Ronan Loughney (Galwegians/Connacht) *
18 - Donncha O'Callaghan (Cork Constitution/Munster)
19 - Kevin McLaughlin (St. Mary's College/Leinster)
20 - Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster)
21 - Ronan O'Gara (Cork Constitution/Munster)
22 - Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)

NZ Team

15 Israel Dagg,
14 Zac Guildford,
13 Conrad Smith,
12 Sonny Bill Williams,
11 Julian Savea,
10 Dan Carter,
9 Aaron Smith,
8 Kieran Read,
7 Richie McCaw (capt),
6 Victor Vito,
5 Sam Whitelock,
4 Brodie Retallick,
3 Owen Franks,
2 Andrew Hore,
1 Tony Woodcock.

Reserves: Hika Elliot, Ben Franks, Ali Williams, Adam Thomson, Piri Weepu, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith.

Tour Previews:
http://www.v2journal.com/irelands-summer-tour.html
http://www.v2journal.com/new-zealands-june-tests-preview.html

by **Notch** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:03 am

How do you defend against that?

All our good play, all our endeavour and we've only three points to show for it. Then they do that. Special try.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:03 am

Cari will be missing Tommy Bowe...and so are Ireland

by **Biltong** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:03 am

Erals went for the wrong man and took McFadden out of the defence there

by **Pal Joey** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:03 am

line ball Tiger, DC passed very late though looking the other way.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:03 am

The score is no where near a reflection of the match. Things could go pear shaped from here.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

nathan wrote:
Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:No they weren't Tiger, I just watched the replay again. Unless you think the ground wears a black shirt cause thats the only thing O'Brien was on.

I didnt think your were allowed to lean on a player, i thought you had to support your own weight?

Correct - leaning on player on the ground is the same as being on the ground.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

Ireland falling off tackles now

by GunsGerms Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

McFadden? That was Earls' fault. He tackled the wrong man and cut McF off.

by Gibson Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

They are breaking the line far too easy.

Good turnover.

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:05 am

Brilliant from O'Mahoney...... we're in big trouble here.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:05 am

He wasn't leaning on the player though. Watch the replay again. The player on the ground was not supporting his weight.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

Ireland have to score soon.

by **Biltong** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

leinsterbaby wrote:McFadden? That was Earls' fault. He tackled the wrong man and cut McF off.

That's what I said

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:He wasn't leaning on the player though. Watch the replay again. The player on the ground was not supporting his weight.

but you just said he was?

by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

a bit irrelevant perhaps, but does anyone else think Heaslip is looking a bit podgy and just a bit out of shape?

NZ really starting too look dangerous here now.

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

Donnacha Ryan has been very good in defence.... we can't keep hanging on here...

by maestegmafia Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:06 am

Ireland have to score a converte try before half time. Other wise this will go one way...

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:He wasn't leaning on the player though. Watch the replay again. The player on the ground was not supporting his weight.

we will have to agree to disagree. You will never convince me, and vice versa

by Thomond Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

Earls was as culpable as McF. Great try but too easy. O'Mahony showing his 7 skills. Can't let the heads drop or we'll be dead by half time.

RD, I've thought Heaslip's looked like a fat lump for about a season and a half.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

I'd take a couple of penalties and get some composure back. Make sure New Zealand don't score again before half time or it could turn into a rout. Apart from the past 5 minutes there is no way New Zealand are 13 points better

by GunsGerms Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

biltongbek wrote:Erals went for the wrong man and took McFadden out of the defence there

Correct. Bad play Earls.

by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

ooo that was a lovely little inside ball offload to zebo there.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:07 am

Oooooh, Zebo was almost through.

by maestegmafia Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:08 am

Heely doesnt want ball in hand... He was blwdi walking then

by Gibson Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:08 am

Thats better lads.

by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:08 am

What's the score guys?

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

Keep it going lads....some excellent attacking play....

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

NZ doing well to slow down Irish possession.

by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

Thomond wrote:Earls was as culpable as McF. Great try but too easy. O'Mahony showing his 7 skills. Can't let the heads drop or we'll be dead by half time.

RD, I've thought Heaslip's looked like a fat lump for about a season and a half.

Glad it's not just me thinking that about Heaslip then!

Been watching him closely today to, he needs to really up his game, he's having a v quiet one work rate wise compared to the rest of the Irish backrow.

by Gibson Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

Need a try.

by wales606 Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

viewtothegym wrote:What's the score guys?

16 - 3

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

viewtothegym wrote:What's the score guys?

16-3 to NZ

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:09 am

If we don't get points the whole of Munster, led by DOD, will lynch Sexton for going for the corner

by Thomond Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:10 am

16-3 Nz, View. Ireland have a penalty. Go to corner, 5m out ,Ireland lineout.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:10 am

Great counter attack by NZ

by nathan Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:10 am

surely he jumped on the irish player before he had the ball?

by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:10 am

ridiculous ball to pass back by BOD. Stupidity.

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:10 am

16-3 view to the ABs

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:11 am

Really poor decision from Sexton to kick for the corner, and dreadful from O'Driscoll there. A real lack of composure here from Ireland.

by Gibson Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:11 am

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:If we don't get points the whole of Munster, led by DOD, will lynch Sexton for going for the corner

Right call. Must go for it. No option.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:11 am

Surely kick to corner was BODs decision as captain?

by **Notch** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:12 am

Well... good lineout but then we didn't get the maul set quickly enough, we weren't going forward and then when Murray had to use it our backline were on the backfoot and under pressure. And suddenly we're defending on our own line!

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:12 am

nathan wrote:surely he jumped on the irish player before he had the ball?

The Kiwi commentators agree with you Smile

by Thomond Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:12 am

It was the right call, BOD is at fault for the complete breakdown of it. First thign you're taught at underage. Don't shovel out shoite! Don't force the offload if it's not there!

by MMC Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:13 am

If this was any other side than NZ Ireland would be leading by now. Just shows how much better than everyone else they are. Even though we're almost certainly going to lose now I'm still very encouraged by the style of play so far.

by Gibson Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:13 am

Could do with a score before HT. Us like.

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:13 am

Conrad smith is such a classy player

by **LondonTiger** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:14 am

Savea in the corner perhaps? Looked good.

by **rodders** Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:14 am

Feic sake!!!! McFadden is not good enough at this level.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:14 am

Listen lads in the context of the game it was a poor call. We needed the points desperately, and if you are a good kicker as Sexton is then you need to back yourself to put those over. Tiger, you are right, BOD shoulders the blame there too. I can't believe we are 21-3 down. for most of the match we have been pretty good, but NZ are so clinical and we lack basic composure at key times.

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