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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:52 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_7800656,00.html

Can I cancel my release lol!!

Think sharpe may do a uturn also

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:53 pm

Faletau was poor Chris, agree. Most of Welsh was pretty pump tbh, Warbs played ok and Lydiate tackled (little else)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:54 pm

I put that on your page yesterday Matt, thought you'd kept him.

Seen somewhere Bonnaire is playing on too

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:57 pm

Whoever said Mike Phillips is the best SH in the world needs a reality check, was so poor today and his temper seems to get the better of him.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 12:57 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Excellent by Horne. Said he would be Aussie first choice 13

So him running after a ball gets that comment lol....

But Priestland is dire since 6N, Cuthbert has no defence. You crack me up sometimes (in a good way)


It was his offensive defence generally I liked and one of the reasons I am a big fan. Reminds me of Jason little and that is a good thing.

Did not say cuthbert has no defence I said which many pundits agree on that his positioning is poor. Leaves so much space in behind him. Priest land has not been great post wc I defy anyone to say he has. Same with nonu weepu etc it is a fact

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:00 pm

Priestland has been ok, hardly dire. I don't know how you judge sometimes.

Horne is very average at Int level imo, prob one of these good at league level but will never look an Int class player

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:04 pm

In contrast, Barnes has been awful for Tahs but always steps up at Int level. Sign of class

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:04 pm

I think Horne is a tremendous player at any level. Always rated him. That beck offload gets better the more you see it. Sublime

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:06 pm

Never seen it myself, very average player. That 1st half mess up sums him up

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:09 pm

One error that's like saying faletau is poor because ioane ran through his dreadful tackle in first half and handed him off

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:15 pm

I've never seen Horne do anything to suggest he's a good player at Int level though. He's just average.

I think we've always disagreed on Horne, doubt that'll change anytime soon. Let's stop arguing Very Happy

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:35 pm

arry wouldnt have said Phillips was poor, pass was good, but got some really static ball to work with - big concern for me is currently how much better the southern hemisphere teams are at the breakdown, espc in terms of the damage they can do with turnovers.

Thought Davies, Gethin Jenkins, the other lock (was it Charteris) and Falateua were poor for Wales, whilst Priestland had a poor game, but think that was more due to his forwards failing to give him a platform - he also misses Roberts influence outside him.

Was so impressed with the AB's work rate without the ball today - sets them apart from all others.

Who is backing England today then?

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:40 pm

SA by 6 for me. You really nailed it about the breakdown Chris.


Look at how good genia was today with that quality ball.

When he was getting junk ball at the reds early this season he looked poor . Phillips with good ball is best 9 in 6 nations

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:40 pm

No Savea bragging Chris??? Get it in man, boy was magic

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:43 pm

I was going for England, but I just dont think we are physical enough at the breakdown, or clever enough to exploit any turnovers, and also I think SA's tactical kicking game will be far better than ours - selecting Steyn at 13 you just know what he's going to be doing for 80minutes.




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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:45 pm

Why we've gone Brown and Foden though. Could be a stroke of genius from Lancaster. Inviting them to kick us the ball all day could be great for us with those two in the back three.

Still think we'll get beat though lol...

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:47 pm

Steyn is playing 12

Unsure of Foden on wing, he was poor there when we tried it last. Think there's little in the packs but home advantage will be massive and Farrell at 10 Sad

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:48 pm

Pooly, I dont know what's happened with Savea this season - last year you could see he had the potential, but this yaer he's just ripping it up. I was going to release him as didnt think he'd make it (was also going to release Wade!) - every aspect of his game seems to have come on leaps and bounds. His younger brother is going to be a very good player too!

How NZ keep finding these wingers is beyond me - reckon they have 9-10 that would be better than Strettle easily.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:51 pm

Think Farrell will be fine at no10 in SA, its not as though we wont know how the Boks are going to play - their midfield is all about defence and containment, looking to force mistakes and get on top with pressure.

Only creativity we have is Ashton coming looking for the ball - he looked good for the BaaBaas again a few weeks ago.

I hope Brown is able to step up, each time I've seen him for England before he seems to shrink and let the game/pressure get to him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 1:55 pm

I'd have liked to have seen us try and attack them and play at tempo (a little like NZ do) but I can't see that happening with a 10 who can only distribute 20m behind the line or kick.

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Post by Driver Sat 09 Jun 2012, 2:17 pm

What channel is the England game on?
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 2:25 pm

Pooly it's the 10 and 12 we have a problem with if you wanted them to play faster and that way. Read an article in the week where they said Farrell receives the ball a lot closer to the pack than either Flood or Hodgson too - just a combination of him and Barritt doesn't produce exciting rugby, and then Manu slows it down, as doesnt get front foot ball.

Though in saying that, look at how well those three cliecked against the French.

SS2 I think Driver, as cricket is on SS1.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 2:38 pm

I've seen Farrell play Chris, he has massive flaws at 10 imo

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 2:43 pm

Farrell has more chance of succeeding at international level than the others so we have to stick with him. The quality of the ball produced by pack Is another reason why he kicks so much

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 2:50 pm

Hope Marler goes well, be a great scrum contest

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Jun 2012, 2:56 pm

I thought Jenkins was great for Wales today myself Chris

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Post by Driver Sat 09 Jun 2012, 3:11 pm

After some EQ squad players if anyone has any going.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 3:17 pm

Imagine if you trawled through player releases over last few weeks you'd get a few gems

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Jun 2012, 3:21 pm

I am mentally excited by Marler starting at 1. The guy has everything And our front row could be great for years with corbs pushing also it is good news

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:17 pm

England's kicking has been attrocious

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:19 pm

What's happened to Youngs pass! Laboured at best

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:21 pm

more concerned with his kicking

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:23 pm

Our kicking game is so off - noticed how much better all southern hem teams tactical kicking is

Liking Hartley and Parling in the line out though

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:24 pm

Youngs pass?!?! Look at Farrell ffs, behind his man, passing to nobody!!

Our tactic of box kicking and playing Bok way is crazy

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:25 pm

Walsh is another ref I can't stand

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:26 pm

What a tackle, great work Manu & Youngs. Farrell having shocker, needs to sort himself out

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:28 pm

Scrum?!?!? Ahhhh

Hate Walsh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:28 pm

Great tackle from Tuilagi. Not sure what Youngs did to deserve the great work comment.

Not sure who got that turnover for Eng (might have been Marler) but it was vital.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:29 pm

Doing well at the breakdown - big improvement from 6nations there

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:29 pm

Brad Barritt should play 7

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:30 pm

I meant Marler for turnover, not Youngs

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:31 pm

Barritt's defence has been superb.

TJ does one thing brilliantly then the next thing badly. Fantastically balanced.

Habana looking as good as I've seen him in a Bok shirt for a few years.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:32 pm

Alberts & Habana looking class

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:32 pm

Youngs box kicking is so bad. Farrell having a mare. But were looking strong!

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:34 pm

Wish Youngs was playing with confidence - he's so frustrating at the moment, as he's got so much talent

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:35 pm

Youngs playing well, box kicking hit and miss. Has to take on too much as Farrell sits so deep

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:36 pm

Think Floods a better 10 than Farrell but don't think Flood copes as well with pressure - espc with kicks

Played Youngs - he's got to do that more!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:36 pm

Youngs isn't playing well.

As I speak he has just done very well with that run and pass to Ashton. That was magnificent.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:37 pm

He'd done nothing wrong apart from a few suspect box kicks.

Thats what he brings, game changing moments of class

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 09 Jun 2012, 4:39 pm

Youngs growing in this game - first 25mins he was poor. Farrells improving too now

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